blacksmithcrm Posted May 23, 2006 #126 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Oh dear. Sounds as if a snifter or two have already been emptied. "In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as rather shocking. Now heaven knows, anything goes" Alas. This, dear friends, is a very old arguement. Being a member of the knuckle-dragging, cold beer swilling, loud, rude and obnoxious American nation, I suppose I should make some bellicose statement on freedom and the rights of the individual. But instead, I think I'd rather join the gentlemen in the club! This uncouth and semi-civilized Yank says "please leave the jeans at home". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Foxtrot Posted May 23, 2006 #127 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Oh dear. Sounds as if a snifter or two have already been emptied.....I suppose I should make some bellicose statement on freedom and the rights of the individual. But instead, I think I'd rather join the gentlemen in the club! This uncouth and semi-civilized Yank says "please leave the jeans at home". "Splendid, yet another convert, and a fine example of Anglo-American co-operation if I may say so. At this rate we may bring back civilisation to Cunard. My hunting friend Jonquil Carruthers has banned the wearing of jeans even in his stables! Frankly, they looked silly on his horses. Snifters are on me in the Commodore Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCameron Posted May 23, 2006 #128 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Originally posted by Slow Foxtrot: "if you must wear jeans then book with Windjammer or Mr Disney - you'll feel totally at home." Or just with Carnival -Mr Arison's empire can accommodate all inclinations-, or RCCL, or NCL... Well, I don't try to restrict anyone's freedom. All I say is : follow yourself and don't go where you don't feel comfortable... Moreover, I would add an old saying: 'A clever man does not go where he is not welcomed'. (hehe) Freedom is one thing and trying to flatten everything is quite another. It is an oppressing characteristic of the totalitarian regimes of the previous century, against which freedom to exist and keep one's identity fought and triumphed, if you want. In all shore-excursions I wore jeans. But putting on a different pair of trousers when returning to the ship cost me just half a minute. It is nice to enjoy a place for what it is. If you feel it deserves it, try not to offend it: this is a nice gesture, showing a nice inner self. More crucially, such a behaviour is just a way to enjoy life. As to snifters, I concede one or two are not harmful. And yes, I liked the Commodore Club. Feel free to say I'm drunken, but I do believe some nice things are worth to be preserved. And Cunard traditions, even if seemingly distorted in a world context different from that of their birth, seem to be one of them. ______________________ QE2, QM2 and most nostalgically : Stella Solaris (ex- Cambodge), Olympic (ex- Empress of Britain, Queen Anna Maria, Carnivale, Fiesta Marina), Pallas Athena (ex- Carla Costa, Flandre), Triton (ex- Cunard Adventurer, Sunward II), Oceanos (ex- Jean Laborde), City of Rhodos (ex- 33 Orientales) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterstar Posted May 24, 2006 #129 Share Posted May 24, 2006 My husband and I were on the April 23 wb sailing. We are 31 and 29, if that matters. We had booked the late dinner seating at 8:30. We wore jeans every single day, but dressed for dinner. (They were not even designer jeans *gasp*). The first day I was trying to notice how many other jeans wearers there were and there were plenty--of ALL ages. After that, it didn't matter any more and I thought no more of it. We did wear dress pants to tea in the Queen's room, but wore jeans everywhere else, including to the dining room for lunch. We never felt uncomfortable and I didn't notice any snotty looks either. I didn't see any people drop dead from shock. Other posters have said if you want to wear jeans book a Disney cruise. Please. For one, no other line had a TA crossing that would fit into our schedule. :P Second, that's just ridiculous. I do not plan my vacations to make OTHER people happy! So all of you out there who want to but are afraid to wear jeans--do it. You will not be shunned. You will not be cursed for life. You will have a fabulous time. Just like mom says "Don't worry about what other people think!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted May 24, 2006 #130 Share Posted May 24, 2006 We wore jeans every single day, but dressed for dinner. (They were not even designer jeans *gasp*). I do not plan my vacations to make OTHER people happy! So all of you out there who want to but are afraid to wear jeans--do it. You will not be shunned. You will not be cursed for life. You will have a fabulous time. Just like mom says "Don't worry about what other people think!!" Has anyone said that jeans should not be permitted during the day time? We are just packing for the short trip later this week and I am packing two (:eek: ) pairs of denim jeans (one Tesco's own brand). Like you I will dress for dinner. I will also try not to waddle into lunch in my swimming costume:D I go on the QE2 because there are a lot of like minded people there who do like to dress up - I don't go with Disney because I want a more formal experience. Why should you be allowed to wear what you like when you like where you like? Why do you want to encourage people to dress down on Cunard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterstar Posted May 24, 2006 #131 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Ummm...unless it states otherwise (which it does not) of course I should be able to wear what I like, when I like. I am encouraging people to dress the way they want to. Bottom line. Am I asking those who prefer to dress up to dress down? Nope. This whole thing is ridiculous, if you ask me. We chose Cunard because it fit our schedule, and we liked the idea of all of the cultural programs instead of skating rinks, etc. I also have to add that a lot of those "dressy" clothes were down right ugly. To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted May 25, 2006 #132 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Ummm...unless it states otherwise (which it does not) of course I should be able to wear what I like, when I like. Are we talking about the same cruise line, the same ship and the same times of day? Cunard devote 3/4 of a page of their brochure to the question "Do I have to dress for dinner every evening?" That is accompanied by more information detailing what you should wear during the day, in port and in Kings Court/The Lido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernNeighbour Posted May 25, 2006 #133 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Are we talking about the same cruise line, the same ship and the same times of day? Cunard devote 3/4 of a page of their brochure to the question "Do I have to dress for dinner every evening?" That is accompanied by more information detailing what you should wear during the day, in port and in Kings Court/The Lido. If Cunard devotes 3-4 pages in their brochures to the question of dress, then I think this is counter-productive. A certain segment of the travelling public (particularly in North America where dress tends to be seen as a matter of civil rights if not legally then mentally) will always try to defy whatever the accepted dress code is. Also, as the baby boomers mature, the whole question of dress codes will likely go for a long "fly-away". I am at a business conference this week in Europe, where the Europeans are all dressed in suits and ties and the Americans are wearing "whatever". When the baby boomers commence cruising in earnest (as they retire), then watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted May 25, 2006 #134 Share Posted May 25, 2006 If Cunard devotes 3-4 pages in their brochures to the question of dress Not 3 to 4, three quarters (or three fourths in US English). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernNeighbour Posted May 25, 2006 #135 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Not 3 to 4, three quarters (or three fourths in US English).[/left][/center] Sorry -- I must have been asleep when I originally read that very early today in Edinburgh. Perhaps another perspective -- Cunard will probably maintain the "dress code" standards until (quite possibly) lower bookings obtain if the travelling public finds it too restrictive. Then, in my opinion, Cunard will cave in and go for whatever standards will give them the best bookings. I am old enough to remember when there was a dress code for flying first class on most airlines -- but those days have long gone. Whatever the baby boomers want -- history has shown -- they get. It has been that way since they were children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted May 25, 2006 #136 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I think jeans are just fine whilst on Cunard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserking Posted May 25, 2006 Author #137 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I will forever have the image of boarding the QE2 imprinted in my mind. The 2003 holiday cruise from New York, a modest line of passengers decked out in their finery. It added to the excitement of boarding the grand liner. You can wear jeans every day to the deli, the movies, the bank. Boarding and sailing on a classic ocean liner is a special experience, a departure from the ordinary. Cruiserking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyo Posted May 25, 2006 #138 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I agree with you. I wear jeans most of the time. I have no problem with having a dress code on a cruise. In fact I enjoy having the opportunity to wear a more formal style on cloths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted May 25, 2006 #139 Share Posted May 25, 2006 When we're on holiday, not necessarily on a cruise, we almost always shower and change before dinner - even if dinner is only a meal in a pub somewhere. It makes a break between the sightseeing and the evening's entertainment. It doesn't matter if you're putting on jeans and a T shirt, a jacket and tie or a tuxedo the amount of effort required is the same. Wouldn't it be nice if all nights were formal?:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPete Posted May 25, 2006 #140 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I'm always proud to wear my best garments whilst cruising. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Foxtrot Posted May 25, 2006 #141 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I will forever have the image of boarding the QE2 imprinted in my mind. The 2003 holiday cruise from New York, a modest line of passengers decked out in their finery. It added to the excitement of boarding the grand liner. You can wear jeans every day to the deli, the movies, the bank. Boarding and sailing on a classic ocean liner is a special experience, a departure from the ordinary. Cruiserking "Well said, old boy, couldn't have put it better! Snifters are on me in the Commodore Club. These jean-wearers should be clapped in irons or made to walk the plank" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserking Posted May 25, 2006 Author #142 Share Posted May 25, 2006 "Well said, old boy, couldn't have put it better! Snifters are on me in the Commodore Club. These jean-wearers should be clapped in irons or made to walk the plank" Good on you Slow Foxtrot! We'll make a formal occasion out of it, dress in our tuxedoes and have the band play a ditty as those jean-wearers take their Atlantic Ocean excursion. Then off to the Commodore Club, second round is on me. Cruiserking:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DBP80203 Posted May 25, 2006 #143 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Jeans, penny loafers, and a button down collared shirt is classic daytime wear for this middle-aged baby boomer. David in Denver - where fashion standards are much more relaxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patwell Posted May 26, 2006 #144 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Penny loafers and button downs???? Are they back again?? I wore those 40 years ago in school!! Sorry...the devil made me say that! Cruiserking and Slow Foxtrot....may I join you gentlemen in a snifter as well? Ginger ale for me...I'm a cheap date. And at the risk of repeating myself... denim is denim is denim!! $20 or $200...designer brouhaha or not...it's still denim. Then again, for the fashion challenged, dressing like everyone else must be comforting. I'm sorry, but this is a tedious subject that just won't go away! Penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel-to-go Posted May 26, 2006 #145 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Whatever the baby boomers want -- history has shown -- they get. It has been that way since they were children! Not true! Not True! I simply cannot find a cell phone made these days with a display and keys I can read! And I have BEGGED the vendors for such a thing! No-o-o! They're going for the ubiquitous and ever-more-important 15- 34 age demographic! Karie, who is a cellular technician by trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladymacwilly Posted May 26, 2006 #146 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Please, I implore you all, to invest in True Religion Jeans, (My stock has gone down terribly!) Not to say you actually want to wear them on the QM2...but there are ports of call, you know...:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Foxtrot Posted May 28, 2006 #147 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Please, I implore you all, to invest in True Religion Jeans, "European civilisation is mystified by the above. Perhaps ladymacwilly would elucidate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted May 28, 2006 #148 Share Posted May 28, 2006 We just came Westbound, Southampton to NY on QM2 and I don't think I ever saw anybody wearing jeans anywhere. Hobbit QM2 May 17th 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Foxtrot Posted May 28, 2006 #149 Share Posted May 28, 2006 We just came Westbound, Southampton to NY on QM2 and I don't think I ever saw anybody wearing jeans anywhere.Hobbit QM2 May 17th 2006 " Perhaps the passengers had been reading this thread! Cunard should buy us all a round of snifters for keeping up traditional standards. Mine's a double" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladymacwilly Posted May 30, 2006 #150 Share Posted May 30, 2006 "European civilisation is mystified by the above. Perhaps ladymacwilly would elucidate" True Religion Jeans=TRLG=NASDAQ=ARGH! (Had I sold two months ago I could buy another cruise!) Not like I actually wear the absurdly expensive designer jeans. I was obviously depending on the Brits and the Japanese to buy these total pieces of fluff...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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