Do you smoke on a cruise?

[I Luv Crusin]

Smokers and education

 

 

Adults with 16 or more years of education had the lowest smoking prevalence (11.3 percent). Adults with 9 to 11 years of education had higher smoking prevalence (36.8 percent) compared to adults with fewer or more years of education.

 

Smokers by socio-economic status

 

Smoking prevalence was higher among adults living below the poverty level (32.3 percent) than those living at or above the poverty level (23.5 percent).

 

Hmm, so what does this say about cruisers?:rolleyes:

[I Luv Crusin]

Nonsmoking ships is an interesting subject and weather a cruiseline would go to this policy. Has it been tried or done?

Yes...without much success...

Look at "Renaissance Cruise Line" ...R1-R2-R3-R4-R5-R6. All with different lines now because they went out of business. YES...they were totally nonsmoking.

The largest cruiseline in the world bar none is "Carnival" which has a ship called the "Paradise". I remember the ship when put to sea with the nonsmoking flag...circle with a cig in the center and the line through it. Didn't work...did it.

 

I wonder how many people cruised on any of these ships (R1 thru R6 and the Paradise) that is a nonsmoker that are saying ships should be smoke free.

It would seem to me that if they did...these ships would be still sailing. Barring the "Paradise" which is now a smoking ship sailing on the west coast..

 

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If people (who do not like to be in a smoking atmospere) had done this with "RCL" and "Paradise" this portion of the market might have grown.

But this didn't happen..."Did it".;)

Jeff

 

Ok, I know I'm reviving this thread but I wasn't reading the Celebrity board before I booked my Bermuda cruise.

 

As for the Carnival ship. IMHO, I think a couple of factors killed it. I WANTED to sail the Paradise but it always sailed out of Miami, which I don't like and I didn't like the itineraries. Also I think research will show that non-smokers tend to live a healthier lifestyle, less drinking and staying up all hours partying. I dare say that most people visiting the casino smoke too. I never stay in the casino because I can't breathe.

 

I feel like I can't totally enjoy any of my cruises because I'm limited where I can go. Smokers can go everywhere and just chose not to smoke in a non-smoking area. I cannot choose not to breathe in a smoking area: casino, most bars, disco, etc....

[greeneg]

My only comment is that if 65% don't smoke, 30% do and insist on being able to do it, and 5% don't care that much either way, the tail is certainly wagging the dog on the major cruise lines.......

[I Luv Crusin]

My only comment is that if 65% don't smoke, 30% do and insist on being able to do it, and 5% don't care that much either way, the tail is certainly wagging the dog on the major cruise lines.......

 

But that 30% probably contributes most of the money in the bars and casino.

[hermang]

I'm an ocassional smoker. Normally, I smoke several cigars per week. On a cruise, I smoke 2 or 3 per day. I especially enjoy having a good cigar sometime after dinner in one of the lounges. I don't ever smoke in my cabin, but ocasionally on my balcony. I'm always courteous around others, and try not to bother anyone.

Personally, I would NEVER sail on a smoke free ship that does not allow smoking at all.

SanDiegoJoe

in 1988 for a variety of reasons gave them up and have not had one since.

However - a few years I decided to enjoy on a very limited basis a good cigar after dinner on the cruise. So on the average - I have maybe 4 on a 7 night cruise and only in the cigar lounge. On Celebrity they dumped the indoor lounge in favor of deck ten port side in the evening and a fine ciggar + a glass or port or a brandy makes for a lovely end of day. At home I enjoy one cigar a week usually on friday to celebrate surviving a week of work. Would I take a cruise where it was not allowed - sure - but not hapily

[jessemon]

Ok, I know I'm reviving this thread but I wasn't reading the Celebrity board before I booked my Bermuda cruise.

 

As for the Carnival ship. IMHO, I think a couple of factors killed it. I WANTED to sail the Paradise but it always sailed out of Miami, which I don't like and I didn't like the itineraries. Also I think research will show that non-smokers tend to live a healthier lifestyle, less drinking and staying up all hours partying. I dare say that most people visiting the casino smoke too. I never stay in the casino because I can't breathe.

 

I feel like I can't totally enjoy any of my cruises because I'm limited where I can go. Smokers can go everywhere and just chose not to smoke in a non-smoking area. I cannot choose not to breathe in a smoking area: casino, most bars, disco, etc....

Hey I Luv Cruisin,

Look what you started again...:eek: LOL

I think if you look back in the history of the Paradise when she was transferred to California she was still a nonsmoking ship. Then she was changed to a 4-5 day cruise vessal and turned back into smoking.

I am not sure if nonsmokers live a healthier lifestyle either...and I am sure the cruise lines don't care. If 30% or 35% of the pax smoke and put 70 or 75% of the money into the revenue of the ship...it would be bad business to tell them they can't smoke.

I always when I look at these smoking issue threads that say the cruise lines should go nonsmoking always ask the same question...when was the last time you cruised on the R-1 thru R-6 ships or Paradise?:confused:

Oceania only has 2 areas you can smoke on their ships and both are on deck if I am not mistaken. The new policy they have on smoking (in a no smoking area including your cabin and balcony) is you can get the hell of the ship. They mean it.

It would seem to me that if folks are that upset about smoking in most public areas on the major lines...try the ones that don't allow it. Then their fleets will grow and everyone will be happy.:)

Jeff

[I Luv Crusin]

Hey I Luv Cruisin,

Look what you started again...:eek: LOL

I think if you look back in the history of the Paradise when she was transferred to California she was still a nonsmoking ship. Then she was changed to a 4-5 day cruise vessal and turned back into smoking.

I am not sure if nonsmokers live a healthier lifestyle either...and I am sure the cruise lines don't care. If 30% or 35% of the pax smoke and put 70 or 75% of the money into the revenue of the ship...it would be bad business to tell them they can't smoke.

I always when I look at these smoking issue threads that say the cruise lines should go nonsmoking always ask the same question...when was the last time you cruised on the R-1 thru R-6 ships or Paradise?:confused:

Oceania only has 2 areas you can smoke on their ships and both are on deck if I am not mistaken. The new policy they have on smoking (in a no smoking area including your cabin and balcony) is you can get the hell of the ship. They mean it.

It would seem to me that if folks are that upset about smoking in most public areas on the major lines...try the ones that don't allow it. Then their fleets will grow and everyone will be happy.:)

Jeff

Jeff,

You have some good points, however I believe that the Paradise was repositioned to CA as a smoking ship. I was about to book her when she was moved. As for the other line I hadn't heard of it. I have ordered an Oceanic brochure but we are not yet retired and don't have the time or the funds to sail them, yet. As for the 30% providing 75% of the revenue. Whether or not these numbers are correct they are probably close and no cruiseline is going to cut off a major revenue maker. Having said that if cruiselines would be more accomodating (better ventilation, more nonsmoking areas) they would get more of MY dollars in the bars and casino. As it is now, I stay away from smoking areas.

[halos]

It may not seem to be insulting, but to those who do still smoke it appears you are saying; stupid people smoke.

 

I didn't take her post that way, but then again, I'm not a smoker.

The statistics are what they are. It doesn't mean that everyone falls into those categories. I'm sure there are students at Ivy League schoolks whose parents are loaded to the hilt and they're smoking...don't get so insulted. If you're not 'dirt poor' and you are educated, then you should be smart enough to let it go....it's compiled data, that's all...and unfortunately it's accurate.

[greeneg]

But that 30% probably contributes most of the money in the bars and casino.

 

 

My guess would be that the bar bills of the smokers and non-smokers are pretty much the same; smoking neither inhances nor deters drinking and I can't see why that would really be much of a factor either way.

 

The Casino might well be a factor; conterbalancing that, however, is the fact that the when the Casion becomes semi-opaque with smoke, the non-smokers don't go in there and participate, which means you are excluding 65% of your potential clients-- I shouldn't think that that would be particularly good for the bottom line.

 

My opinion is that the majority of cruisers pretty much follow "live and let-live" as far as the pecadillos of others are concerned as long as some descretion is preserved on the part of the minority. I would be curious to what the Cruise Lines response would be if the Majority really decided to exert itself. I think that the financial consequences would be significant.

 

Not that I expect anything like that to happen, although I would personally prefer avoiding a trip into the lifeboats because of a problem caused by a careless smoker.

[halos]

You all have to keep in mind that although smoking is decreasing in the US, (thank goodness) it isn't decreasing elsewhere and the ships do not solely cater to Americans, no matter how much we like to be catered to ;)