agabbymama Posted February 8, 2007 #1 Share Posted February 8, 2007 John, I saw an old thread where you gave lots of info on the pronunciation of HAL ships. Prinsendam "Princen-dam" as in "Prince" Statendam "St-ah-ten-dam" as in "say Aah" Maasdam "Maahs-dam" as in "say Ahh" Ryndam "Rhine-dam" Veendam "Veyn-dam" as in "hey" Rotterdam "Rott-ehr-dam" as in Rotweiler Amsterdam "Ahm-ster-dam" Volendam "Vohl-en-dam" as in "Foal" Zaandam "Zahn-dam" as in "say Aah" Zuiderdam "Zey-der-dam" Oosterdam "Oasterdam" as in Toast but drop the "T" Westerdam "West-ehr-dam" Noordam "Nor-dam" as in More When I was in Holland we were told the "V" sounds like an "F" which you show above for Volendam, but for Veendam you still show the "V". Is the difference in the "o" or "e" vowel following it??? Another interesting one is "Vlissingen" in English would be "Flushing", go figure. I really had a difficult time trying to learn Dutch, I finally gave up after that last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seago2 Posted February 8, 2007 #2 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I think if one says "Dahm" instead of a nasal-y "Daaaam" you're ahead of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted February 8, 2007 #3 Share Posted February 8, 2007 John, I saw an old thread where you gave lots of info on the pronunciation of HAL ships. Prinsendam "Princen-dam" as in "Prince" Statendam "St-ah-ten-dam" as in "say Aah" Maasdam "Maahs-dam" as in "say Ahh" Ryndam "Rhine-dam" Veendam "Veyn-dam" as in "hey" Rotterdam "Rott-ehr-dam" as in Rotweiler Amsterdam "Ahm-ster-dam" Volendam "Vohl-en-dam" as in "Foal" Zaandam "Zahn-dam" as in "say Aah" Zuiderdam "Zey-der-dam" Oosterdam "Oasterdam" as in Toast but drop the "T" Westerdam "West-ehr-dam" Noordam "Nor-dam" as in More When I was in Holland we were told the "V" sounds like an "F" which you show above for Volendam, but for Veendam you still show the "V". Is the difference in the "o" or "e" vowel following it??? Another interesting one is "Vlissingen" in English would be "Flushing", go figure. I really had a difficult time trying to learn Dutch, I finally gave up after that last one. Hi Mamma; the "V" in Dutch does sound more like an "F". It's almost like you're blowing "fffffff" I used the "hey" as in Veendam more for the total pronounciation of the word "Veen" (if that makes sence). The "V" for Volendam and Veendam is pronounced the same. Carla is correct in that "Dam" or "dam" in Dutch is pronounced more like "dahm" rather than "damn" (sorry about using a bad word, Ref:o ) So it is "Oasterdahm" BTW, Dutch is not an easy language to learn and/or pronounce, right Ine?;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agabbymama Posted February 8, 2007 Author #4 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Mamma; the "V" in Dutch does sound more like an "F". It's almost like you're blowing "fffffff" I used the "hey" as in Veendam more for the total pronounciation of the word "Veen" (if that makes sence). The "V" for Volendam and Veendam is pronounced the same. Carla is correct in that "Dam" or "dam" in Dutch is pronounced more like "dahm" rather than "damn" (sorry about using a bad word, Ref:o ) So it is "Oasterdahm" BTW, Dutch is not an easy language to learn and/or pronounce, right Ine?;) Copper10-8 Thanks for the quick response. I know first hand that Dutch is not an easy language to learn. Some of the words I would keep trying and trying to say, and the gals would keep repeating the correct way, as I said I finally gave up even trying when they pronounced Vlissingen as Flushing. I knew I would never get it. Just can't teach and old English dog a new language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivalrygirl Posted February 8, 2007 #5 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Mamma; the "V" in Dutch does sound more like an "F". It's almost like you're blowing "fffffff" I used the "hey" as in Veendam more for the total pronounciation of the word "Veen" (if that makes sence). The "V" for Volendam and Veendam is pronounced the same. Carla is correct in that "Dam" or "dam" in Dutch is pronounced more like "dahm" rather than "damn" (sorry about using a bad word, Ref:o ) So it is "Oasterdahm" BTW, Dutch is not an easy language to learn and/or pronounce, right Ine?;) Easy answer here, just call all the ships EURO, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc. etc. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ine Posted February 9, 2007 #6 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Hi Mamma; the "V" in Dutch does sound more like an "F". It's almost like you're blowing "fffffff" I used the "hey" as in Veendam more for the total pronounciation of the word "Veen" (if that makes sence). The "V" for Volendam and Veendam is pronounced the same. Carla is correct in that "Dam" or "dam" in Dutch is pronounced more like "dahm" rather than "damn" (sorry about using a bad word, Ref:o ) So it is "Oasterdahm" BTW, Dutch is not an easy language to learn and/or pronounce, right Ine?;) I never had or have problems with it John!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted February 9, 2007 #7 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I never had or have problems with it John!!! ;) Scheveningen is always a good one to pronounce, especially by the Germans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ine Posted February 9, 2007 #8 Share Posted February 9, 2007 ;) Scheveningen is always a good one to pronounce, especially by the Germans! And for the "Amsterdammers" Ik heb de zon in de zee zien zakken.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cands Posted February 10, 2007 #9 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And for the "Amsterdammers"Ik heb de zon in de zee zien zakken.... Online translators are wonderfu!! - NOT;) "I have the sun in the sea see falling" ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted February 10, 2007 #10 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And for the "Amsterdammers"Ik heb de zon in de zee zien zakken.... " I have the sun in the sea see falling"????? Pretty good and pretty close! "And for the residents from Amsterdam: I saw the sun "drop" (lower itself) into the ocean" Folks from Amsterdam, especially those from the "Jordaan" neighborhood, have their own "little accent";) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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