rickwebste Posted July 28, 2007 #1 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I was on the Ocean Players Club website and noticed a link about jobs availabe. I had no idea the pay was this low. They really depend on tips for the pay. Here is what I copied from the site. Dealers Casino ExperienceThe principal games dealt on our ships are Blackjack, American Roulette, Dice and Caribbean Stud Poker. Any applicant for a Dealer position is required to be experienced in at least three of these four games. New employees will take a table test during the pre-employment process before boarding ship. Contract ConditionsFrom the time that you join your ship you are paid $10 per day, paid ($140) every two weeks. The duration of your first contract is 6 months. PromotionsIt is the company’s general policy to promote from within the existing staff whenever possible and practical. However, during periods of high staff turnover or the arrival of new ships, certain applicants may be hired at supervisory levels. No applicant may be hired as a Supervisor unless they have experience at least in Blackjack, Roulette and Dice. TipsThe tips received on the casino tables are divided among the staff once a week. Money is not withheld by the company. If you are absent from work due sickness or other reason you will not receive a share of that day’s tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyjo143 Posted July 28, 2007 #2 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I was on the Ocean Players Club website and noticed a link about jobs availabe. I had no idea the pay was this low. They really depend on tips for the pay. Here is what I copied from the site. Dealers Casino ExperienceThe principal games dealt on our ships are Blackjack, American Roulette, Dice and Caribbean Stud Poker. Any applicant for a Dealer position is required to be experienced in at least three of these four games. New employees will take a table test during the pre-employment process before boarding ship. Contract ConditionsFrom the time that you join your ship you are paid $10 per day, paid ($140) every two weeks. The duration of your first contract is 6 months. PromotionsIt is the company’s general policy to promote from within the existing staff whenever possible and practical. However, during periods of high staff turnover or the arrival of new ships, certain applicants may be hired at supervisory levels. No applicant may be hired as a Supervisor unless they have experience at least in Blackjack, Roulette and Dice. TipsThe tips received on the casino tables are divided among the staff once a week. Money is not withheld by the company. If you are absent from work due sickness or other reason you will not receive a share of that day’s tips. Ouch! How many people on their cruise actually tip the casino staff? I know that on our recent cruise I won $300 on a slot machine and gave $10 to the woman who came to my machine to help and the woman at the cage who cashed me out. I just didn't realize that they pooled tips. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted July 28, 2007 #3 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Casino Dealer/Croupier (roulette, black jack, baccarat) - Experience required. Good English Language skills required. Salary range: $1900-2600 US per month, depending on commission and gratuities. Possibilities for promotion to Assistant Casino Manager. from http://www.cruiseshipjob.com/casino.htm Casino Dealer - Salary $1600-2400/month. Running casino games such as blackjack, roulette and baccarat. from http://www.cruiseshipjob.net/joblistings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseCentric Posted July 28, 2007 #4 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Ouch! How many people on their cruise actually tip the casino staff? I know that on our recent cruise I won $300 on a slot machine and gave $10 to the woman who came to my machine to help and the woman at the cage who cashed me out. I just didn't realize that they pooled tips. :( If people gamble on a regular basis, they are familiar with tipping casino workers. Even those who dont go often, will usually pick up on it at the table games by watching the other players. Working in the Casino is one of the better jobs if you want to really experience the ports, since the casino is closed at that time. While they do have some training during port time, most are able to get off and enjoy the islands. Thats why the casino staff will always know so much about the individual ports. To add to the above job requirements, a dealer told me if they get sick, they normally just go to work, because if they miss more than 6 days in a row, they are sent home. Also if someone is sick, someone else has to cover for them and of course they dont get anything extra for that, so that is another incentive to just work when sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted July 28, 2007 #5 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Also if someone is sick, someone else has to cover for them and of course they dont get anything extra for that, so that is another incentive to just work when sick. And they just can't get someone to replace them unless they can Jet Ski then aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 28, 2007 #6 Share Posted July 28, 2007 There are many who never tip the dealers (bordering on a majority, I would say). I tip AT LEAST $50 a day (totaled) when gambling - but then you must consider that it is a small amount compared to what I potentially give to the casino directly! There have been some winning sessions (a few thousand+) where I will tip an additional black chip as I leave in addition to many side bets for the dealer - most of $5, and a few at $25... I have played beside many a player at the $25 table who, after gambling away (or winning) thousands, never tipped ANYTHING. Heck - we have been known to tip the fellows at the deli onboard...! Everyone on the ship is hard working, and if they are also friendly and helpful - they deserve the occasional "thank you". Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonniemari Posted July 28, 2007 #7 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Knowing how much the dealers make, nothing gets me madder than watching someone win big and not tip the dealer. I saw a guy win over $7000.00 playing Caribbean Stud. His tip to the dealer=$0.00. I was shocked. I usually play 3 card poker and if I get anything over a pair I tip the dealer. I always tip the dealer when I leave the table-win or lose. Might just be $10.00 if I lose. But its a tip and they appreciate it. Please remember to tip the dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted July 28, 2007 #8 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Please remember to tip the dealers. Should I also tip the slot host if I win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted July 28, 2007 #9 Share Posted July 28, 2007 So if one tips big on a casino win than it would be advantagious for the dealer to "help" you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scapino Posted July 28, 2007 #10 Share Posted July 28, 2007 There are many who never tip the dealers (bordering on a majority, I would say). I tip AT LEAST $50 a day (totaled) when gambling - but then you must consider that it is a small amount compared to what I potentially give to the casino directly! There have been some winning sessions (a few thousand+) where I will tip an additional black chip as I leave in addition to many side bets for the dealer - most of $5, and a few at $25... I have played beside many a player at the $25 table who, after gambling away (or winning) thousands, never tipped ANYTHING. Heck - we have been known to tip the fellows at the deli onboard...! Everyone on the ship is hard working, and if they are also friendly and helpful - they deserve the occasional "thank you". Tom Does the casino tip me when they win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted July 28, 2007 #11 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Does the casino tip me when they win? Actually, yes. Usually in the form of comps or players club points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scapino Posted July 28, 2007 #12 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Actually, yes. Usually in the form of comps or players club points. You get your comps with time played and average amount bet per hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted July 28, 2007 #13 Share Posted July 28, 2007 You get your comps with time played and average amount bet per hand. So lose slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonniemari Posted July 28, 2007 #14 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Should I also tip the slot host if I win. I don't play slots that much on cruise ships but the few times I have won a hand paid jackpot (and trust me when I say it hasn't happened that often) I have given the person that paid me a tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llanning Posted July 28, 2007 #15 Share Posted July 28, 2007 My daughter in law was a dealer on board. Also note that the tips are shared fleetwide, not just on that particular ship. That is how the casino staff gets paid if their ship if a full book by a non-gambling group. She's now dealing in Vegas and doing very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonniemari Posted July 28, 2007 #16 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Actually, yes. Usually in the form of comps or players club points. So true-I just made reservations for a four night stay at the Crystal Palace Casino in Nassau. Four free nights cause the rooms were comped and between my DH & I we have $300.00 in meal comps. I used my airmiles for our flights so thanks to the casino "tipping me" I basically get a free trip to the Bahamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyagerfl Posted July 28, 2007 #17 Share Posted July 28, 2007 So true-I just made reservations for a four night stay at the Crystal Palace Casino in Nassau. Four free nights cause the rooms were comped and between my DH & I we have $300.00 in meal comps. I used my airmiles for our flights so thanks to the casino "tipping me" I basically get a free trip to the Bahamas. Uhhhhh, you gotta be a pretty "High Roller" for those kinda Comps. And Carnival is not that Generous. What kinda comp's my $20 a night casino budget gonna get me...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyagerfl Posted July 28, 2007 #18 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Uhhhhh, you gotta be a pretty "High Roller" for those kinda Comps. And Carnival is not that Generous. What kinda comp's my $20 a night casino budget gonna get me...:D Actually on a "Wild" night....the 2 of us might hit $50 combined....:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted July 28, 2007 #19 Share Posted July 28, 2007 What kinda comp's my $20 a night casino budget gonna get me...:D A free buffet aboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonniemari Posted July 28, 2007 #20 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Uhhhhh, you gotta be a pretty "High Roller" for those kinda Comps. And Carnival is not that Generous. What kinda comp's my $20 a night casino budget gonna get me...:D No not a "high roller" at all. We live near Tunica and probably go down there 4-5 times a year. If I wanted to I could spend a couple of weeks a month down there and not pay anything. We always go to the same casino or at least a casino that is in their "group". I get the offers in the mail for different promos about 3 times a week. We go to the CPC in Nassau a couple of times a year. My average bet is $10 on 3 card poker and my DH is a litlle more $15-25. but we still get the same offer-could have stayed 8 days at CPC between the two of us but even I couldn't stand to be in a casino for 8 days-now the beach is a different story but after about 4 days I am missing my fur babies and am ready to come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 28, 2007 #21 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Uhhhhh, you gotta be a pretty "High Roller" for those kinda Comps. And Carnival is not that Generous. What kinda comp's my $20 a night casino budget gonna get me...:D Oddly - and it was a one time offer no doubt - my contact at the OPC offered Cheryl and I a FREE balcony cabin on the Legend for the (4-night?) sailing prior to its repositioning to Tampa this spring. It was one of the Casino/Slot tournament sailings. Unfortunately, we had sailed just a week or two prior to that, and his offer came with less than a weeks notice... And yes, your $20 (or $50) play in the casino is going to get you - for the most part - nothing. Though you will have the pleasure (at least I hope) of playing and taking a shot at some bigger $$$ ! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydream Posted July 28, 2007 #22 Share Posted July 28, 2007 The dealers do have a better job than some on the ships but also remember they work late into the night to accomodate people playing and enjoying themselves in the casino. That's part of their job. They have to sleep sometime to be able to be bright and happy for the guests. Their time in each port is limited. The reason they know so much about each port is because they visit so frequently. Tipping does supplement their income. The amount they recieve depends on their ship and how much the guests tip. It is not the same amount of tips on every ship, every week. If I am receiving good service and being treated well I always leave a tip for the staff in the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickwebste Posted July 29, 2007 Author #23 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Derf, here is the link if you would like to look at it. http://www.oceancasinojobs.com/info/qualifications.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted July 29, 2007 #24 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Derf, here is the link if you would like to look at it. http://www.oceancasinojobs.com/info/qualifications.asp From the time that you join your ship you are paid $10 per day, paid ($140) every two weeks. The duration of your first contract is 6 months. $606 a month. Well at least they don't have to pay taxes, Do they? Room and bored included. Puss tips. Quite a difference between that and $1600 salery figure I gave earlier in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted July 29, 2007 #25 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Room and bored included. Hey Derf, I see your spellcheckers at work again. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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