Kicked Off Ship

[scher]

On our last cruise onboard the Grandeur, two years ago, there was a large family of foreign speaking people (I believe they were Greek). They let their 4-6 kids run all over the ship night and day. I know of at least 10 other people that complained about the kids running up and down the halls knocking on doors and not much being done about it. When I went to complain, I was told, the staff already knew and was trying to work with the parents. I overhead some cre members talking about it one morning and state the parents refused to do anything about the kids. Well by our third night of interrupted sleep, I was at wits end. I called the desk at least 3 times in one night and they would send somone up and the kids would disappear until they left and it would start all over again. I finally had enough. I waited for one of the boys to run down the hall, opened my door and stuck my arm out, clotheslining the little brat in the chest. Yes I know I could have faced assault charges. Yes he fell down and was shocked and ran away crying. I received a knock on my door about 10 minutes later from the father who surprisingly spoke perfect english. He started yelling at me. I explained what happened and told him if he had any more problems controlling his brats to let me know and closed my door. End of story, they stayed away from our floor.

 

I know it was wrong what I did but since sleep depivation has a way of messing with one's mind, I did get the result I wanted. No children running up and down the hall knocking on door and cursing at people when they told them to stop. This was one time I wished a group had been thrown off the ship the first day. Knowing my actions were wrong I would have understood if I had been tossed off the ship. I know it will never happen again because I will complain so many time they will have to do something about it. OF course our last ship had perfect wonderful children, I wondered truly if they were aliens in childrens bodies. This was a cruise to Alaska,

maybe the cold slowed them down.[/quote

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So the problem is solved..........All unruly kids should be put in the freezer for awhile and that will slow them down........problem fixed,,,,LOL

[sagiv666]

Thanks Sherri and Onessa....wow, I thought I was being realistic.

 

If anyone thinks their kids are perfect, wonderful for you!!!

 

Yes, I was using this thread as an example to use for my children. No one should live with blinders on....no child is perfect and what I was trying to get across is even the most reponsible parents sometimes run into situations with their children that isn't always expected. The key is how the parents handle it....yes, "boys will be boys".

 

Jeez, can't say anything on this board anymore....

:(

 

Just when I feel there is nothing more to say on this thread, another one of these "boys will be boys" rationalizations.

I have a good idea: Throw the parents off and let those who do the pranks work with a crew at some of messiest jobs (clean the bathrooms,etc.) and have no more time to themselves for the duration of the cruise. This way, both adults and their young people learn some lessons!:mad:

 

Jeez, say whatever you want (within the Guidelines)...just don't be upset at the replies.:mad:

[Sharkmedic]

Dear Clothesline :),

 

Nice job! Sounds like it worked!

[Thing2]

Just when I feel there is nothing more to say on this thread, another one of these "boys will be boys" rationalizations.

I have a good idea: Throw the parents off and let those who do the pranks work with a crew at some of messiest jobs (clean the bathrooms,etc.) and have no more time to themselves for the duration of the cruise. This way, both adults and their young people learn some lessons!:mad:

 

Jeez, say whatever you want (within the Guidelines)...just don't be upset at the replies.:mad:

 

What amazes me is parents that say "I give my kids rules and I know where they are at all times" Well knowing where they are and what they are doing is two different things. And if Mom and Dad are in the casino or at the bar while Jr is in the Arcade to me just cause you think you know where they are doesn't mean they are behaving.

[Aubiecruiser]

Way to go Clothesline! I probably would have probably just given the kid a good old hockey check into the wall then blamed the runt on running into me.

Alls well that ends well.

Aubie

[RetireeWannabee]

"Clothesline",

 

I've done nearly the same thing in movie theaters where the same kids keep running up and down the aisle, disturbing everyone. A foot well-placed in the walkway can do wonders for slowing them down. Even more effective if it's a pileup. I don't let on that it was me, of course, bring my leg back in and stare and the movie screen like everyone else.

 

I look at this way: they accepted the risk of tripping when they started running in the dark. I'm just being sure they completely understand the risks.

[Thing2]

"Clothesline",

 

I've done nearly the same thing in movie theaters where the same kids keep running up and down the aisle, disturbing everyone. A foot well-placed in the walkway can do wonders for slowing them down. Even more effective if it's a pileup. I don't let on that it was me, of course, bring my leg back in and stare and the movie screen like everyone else.

 

I look at this way: they accepted the risk of tripping when they started running in the dark. I'm just being sure they completely understand the risks.

 

LOL................sometimes the best lessons learned are the ones where you fall flat on your face!!!! :D

[MakinGold]

LOL................sometimes the best lessons learned are the ones where you fall flat on your face!!!! :D

 

Off-topic, but is your user name meant to be a Cat in the Hat reference?

[Onessa]

Rather than continue to bash kids (figuratively as well as literally!) . . . The point is it does not matter if you are 6 or 60 years old -- there are things that you can do on a cruise that can get you thrown off.

[Thing2]

Off-topic, but is your user name meant to be a Cat in the Hat reference?

 

yes :D

[dolphinwyo]

Reading Cruise critic posts is about the best lesson in societal trends and nuances there is out there.

 

I find it amazing the number of folkdswho have posted all in a titter as if they are personally being singled out because they do certain things with their kids or not. If you are confident in what you are doing is correct, then there is zero need to justify your behavior to anyone, least of all a bunch of anonomous posters to some thread in cyberspace. On the other hand if you are not confident then the old Shakespearean quote I fear you protest too much, may be more accurate.

 

I think that parents on this thread are trying to just stand up to the posters who generalize the "all kids are brats" theme and get tired of reading posts that judge families and their decisions that continue to pop up on CC. It is annoying to have all kids grouped together because of bad behavior by some. From what I have read, there isn't a thread complimenting families or kids that do behave, but everyone will jump on the ones that were horrible. (If there is one, I haven't come across it yet) I think if people were to use the wording - "some kids" "some families", etc., parents on this forum wouldn't get so "in a titter." We all agree that there are kids, parents, and adults that behave inapporiately on a cruise, (or anywhere else for that matter) and it is unfortunate that the rest of us have to deal with them at all when we are trying to relax and have a nice vacation. Nobody will argue that rules need to be enforced and followed.

[raiderette]

We were on a cruise with NCL for my daughters 2lst birthday during spring break, never again, the FBI came on the ship the week before and escorted a bunch of college kids off for thowing beer bottles in the pool and being disrepectful to the staff and various other things, the FBI then got on the ship for the cruise home, the next week of our cruise was not much better we were late leaving ports because kids were in Carlos amd Charlies and Senior Frogs the kids were drunk all day long and hanging in the hot tub and pool, although they were completely entertaining I was waiting for someone to get really hurt. They were terrible.

[suziehmkr]

We were on a cruise with NCL for my daughters 2lst birthday during spring break, never again, the FBI came on the ship the week before and escorted a bunch of college kids off for thowing beer bottles in the pool and being disrepectful to the staff and various other things, the FBI then got on the ship for the cruise home, the next week of our cruise was not much better we were late leaving ports because kids were in Carlos amd Charlies and Senior Frogs the kids were drunk all day long and hanging in the hot tub and pool, although they were completely entertaining I was waiting for someone to get really hurt. They were terrible.

 

FBI? Are you sure it was the FBI?

[nrdsb4]

We were on a cruise with NCL for my daughters 2lst birthday during spring break, never again, the FBI came on the ship the week before and escorted a bunch of college kids off for thowing beer bottles in the pool and being disrepectful to the staff and various other things, the FBI then got on the ship for the cruise home, the next week of our cruise was not much better we were late leaving ports because kids were in Carlos amd Charlies and Senior Frogs the kids were drunk all day long and hanging in the hot tub and pool, although they were completely entertaining I was waiting for someone to get really hurt. They were terrible.

 

Why in the world would the FBI get involved in a beer bottle throwing caper?!:confused:

[raiderette]

Why in the world would the FBI get involved in a beer bottle throwing caper?!:confused:

 

 

Not sure why, but that is what one of the bartenders said after we complained about some of the drunk college students. We were not quite sure if he had his story right but another attendant up at the pool said the same story.

[terri23]

Floating Beer Investigators ;)

[Gonzo70]

Why in the world would the FBI get involved in a beer bottle throwing caper?!:confused:

 

Doesn't FBI stand for Flying Beer Investigators? :confused:

[terri23]

I think that parents on this thread are trying to just stand up to the posters who generalize the "all kids are brats" theme and get tired of reading posts that judge families and their decisions that continue to pop up on CC. It is annoying to have all kids grouped together because of bad behavior by some. From what I have read, there isn't a thread complimenting families or kids that do behave, but everyone will jump on the ones that were horrible. (If there is one, I haven't come across it yet) I think if people were to use the wording - "some kids" "some families", etc., parents on this forum wouldn't get so "in a titter." We all agree that there are kids, parents, and adults that behave inapporiately on a cruise, (or anywhere else for that matter) and it is unfortunate that the rest of us have to deal with them at all when we are trying to relax and have a nice vacation. Nobody will argue that rules need to be enforced and followed.

 

A few rotten apples do tend to spoil the barrel, as they say. People tend to notice disruptive behavior and that's always a hot topic on these boards. Human nature, I guess. Head over to the family cruising forum if you want more positive feedback re kids cruising. And there are some out here from time to time as well (about games to play with kids, scavenger hunts, packing lists for kids, AO recommendations, etc).

 

Besides, who posted "all kids are brats"? Who's generalizing now?

[Arizona Cruz Chic]

Floating Beer Investigators ;)

 

 

Love it! :D :D :D

 

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[dolphinwyo]

terri23;12503515]A few rotten apples do tend to spoil the barrel, as they say[/u]. People tend to notice disruptive behavior and that's always a hot topic on these boards. Human nature, I guess. Head over to the family cruising forum if you want more positive feedback re kids cruising. And there are some out here from time to time as well (about games to play with kids, scavenger hunts, packing lists for kids, AO recommendations, etc).

 

Besides, who posted "all kids are brats"? Who's generalizing now?

 

Just for the record, I didn't say anyone posted "all kids are brats." I said that parents get tired of the theme that seems to prevail in a lot of these threads. If you read some of the posts, such as #51 (should be kicked off for bringing kids on board in the first place), and other posts with a similar tone on this thread and others, there are some posters who tend to view all children in a negative light. I have been to the family forum for family friendly info, and it is great. I was just making a comment that people are more likely to jump on and post negative remarks rather than focus on positive examples - but I guess you are right, I will chalk it up to human nature and forget about it.

[Thing2]

Doesn't FBI stand for Flying Beer Investigators? :confused:

 

Where would one find an application for said position.................especially on a cruise ship...:D

[cruzinfamly5]

I can't believe people take their kids out of school for a week to cruise...... :(

 

 

We do ... primarily to avoid all the same things you are trying to avoid during the off season. If you think the kids who misbehave on board a ship drive ADULTS crazy, just think how they impact the other kids they happen to be on board with. Activities get shut down, priviledges get taken away, the pool is no fun, all in all it's just a royal pain in the pattuti! My kids would prefer a ship with FEWER kids for the same reasons adults prefer it that way ... they like to enjoy themselves without being subjected to rude and obnoxious behavior.

[Captain Canuck]

I have decided to extend my rant against people with kids bringing them onboard to people with kids at all coming on board...after all they may discuss the rug rats at dinner

[songanddance]

From what I have read, there isn't a thread complimenting families or kids that do behave, but everyone will jump on the ones that were horrible. quote]

 

I think that why there is no thread complimenting parents for nice children is because it is assumed that nice behavior is the norm and is to be expected. Only when you get the wild ones do people find it offensive. I can rememebr when i was but a wee lad. We were expected to be seen and not heard, stand when an adult came into the room and addess all adults other than mom and dad by their last name with a mr. or mrs. or miss (pre MS times).

 

Of course that was an opressive time when we did not have rampant sex or out of wedlock babies in great numbers as we have today and child crime and violence in the schools was basically unheard of, so I guess it was not really a good time.

[where2nxt]

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scher

 

"I am glad you posted this with some knowledge.....I am actually concerned about our cruise next month. My kids are really good well behaved kids ( :rolleyes: give me a break!!)but you never know what anyone will do. What you stated above sounds like just innocent kids pranks........Some kids don't have the capability of thinking things through they just know would that not be fun and confusing to these people. They do not think of the consequences of their actions. My kids, as good as they are, could have done this thinking it is just a innocent prank.:o ....but I surly would never defend them if this was something the ship felt so strongly about. (:eek: Only if the ship felt strongly about it?! So you're saying if the ship didn't insist it felt strongly - you would condone you "really good well behave kids" actions?)It could happen to me. That is scary. I would at least expect a warning. But I would also read my kids the riot act. Even if I thought it was harmless. When in Rome do as the Romans and if the Captain says bad boy I say yes sir. If he say jump I say how high. I would never want to be kicked off."

 

Now you know where the kids get their nonchalant (tell em what they want to hear, do as I please) attitude.