Tipping?

[dan40]

Isn't no tipping sign there cause everything is suppose to be included in the gratuities charge they take at the end of the cruise. ( And of course you can bump up that amount) Gratuities that are charged avg $10/day/ passenger.

 

Crash3X,

 

This thread is about the porters on the dock that take your luggage and deliver it to the ship.

They are not included in the $10.00 pppd auto-tips as they do not work for Carnival.

The $10.00 pppd covers your room steward, your dining room waiter and assistant waiter and $1.00 is pooled to be shared by the buffet workers.

Also all drinks, hard or soft, you order from a bar or waiter will have a 15% tip added to the drink price. Casino dealers also are not included in the $10.00 pppd. And should you have children in Camp Carnival, those workers are not included and should be tipped.

 

Dan

[CruzVinnieCruz]

first off, Our WALMART is not allowed to accept tips. NO tip buckets to be had in any walmart I have been in.

 

You have a store where there is someone to push your buggy out to your car and load your groceries????? WHERE????? Not here.

 

The crack about Walmart was sarcasm. Yes where we live we can and do have the grocery baggers push shopping carts (buggies) and load the bags into the car upon request. I did it all the time when I worked at the local grocery store in high school.

 

Lighten up.:D

[CruisinKelly]

I always give them a $10.00 bill no matter how many bags. I also tip the taxi driver $10.00, the aft pool bartender and the room steward each $25.00 the first day, as well as in addition to the sail n sign tip - we also tip at the end of the cruise to anyone who gave us "extra kind and good service". Tipping is something that you do to reward someone for that kind of service and yes I tip the kid who carries my groceries to my car, and always our waitress, hairdresser and anyone else I think deserves it.

 

Tipping is optional and so is the amount, so tip what you like or not.

[VentureMan_2000]

I always give them a $10.00 bill no matter how many bags. I also tip the taxi driver $10.00, the aft pool bartender and the room steward each $25.00 the first day...

 

 

 

Can I carry your bags for you... ? :D

[VentureMan_2000]

What bothers me most about this topic of Tipping Porters is two-fold:

 

First, it was true 20 years ago that the Porters in Miami were the rudest sons-of-guns in demanding a TIP. And funny thing is, 20 years later, that is still true today. And I'm only refering to the porters who take your bags at the terminal before boarding.

 

I am not refering to a Porter who takes the extra time to bring all your luggage to your car loading area after debarking.

 

These Porters work for the Port Authority and not any of the Cruise lines. The bottom line is, that no one but the Porters are allowed to load luggage into the cages. It's all Union. And only these Union workers are allowed to load these cages on the ship.

 

So... where am I going with all this...?

 

My position is that you should not be giving the Porters a TIP at all... they make Union Wages for loading your luggage into cages to be loaded onto the ship. Once loaded onto the ship, their job ends.

 

Your TIP should really be going to the Crew of the Carnival ship that actually hump your bags up from the bowels of the ship to your cabin.

 

Now, it's the Ship's Crew that deserves a TIP!

 

And conversely, the Ship's Crew that brings your luggage down to bowels of the ship and stacks them in cages to be off-loaded are likely the same Crew that brought your bags up to your cabin. Too bad Carnival does not have a TIPing optional category to be divided up between the Crew that does this work.

 

Sorry... but the Porters do nothing up and beyond to get your luggage on the ship... so why TIP them...?

 

Oh... I know why you should TIP them... so your luggage does not end up in the drink. That's a $1 per bag well spent... but not well deserved by the Porters.

[fllady61]

Well, I do not tip at the start of the cruise. IF my bar waiter can remember what my family drinks, and have it at our table before we get there, and bring more before we are half done with our glass, then he/she will get a nice tip.

 

My room steward, if understanding, and brings me what I ask for, cleans my cabin in a timley mannor, then yes, I will tip him. We had one cruise when we left the cabin at 8 am and when we returned at 1140, our cabin was still not done up. so he did not get a good tip.. wait, he did not get a tip at all other than what he got out of the daily amount.

[GoinCruisin]

first off, Our WALMART is not allowed to accept tips. NO tip buckets to be had in any walmart I have been in.

 

You have a store where there is someone to push your buggy out to your car and load your groceries????? WHERE????? Not here.

 

All of our grocery stores have employees that do that...

[GoinCruisin]

Well, I do not tip at the start of the cruise. IF my bar waiter can remember what my family drinks, and have it at our table before we get there, and bring more before we are half done with our glass, then he/she will get a nice tip.

 

My room steward, if understanding, and brings me what I ask for, cleans my cabin in a timley mannor, then yes, I will tip him. We had one cruise when we left the cabin at 8 am and when we returned at 1140, our cabin was still not done up. so he did not get a good tip.. wait, he did not get a tip at all other than what he got out of the daily amount.

 

11:40 in the morning or evening? If it was before noon, that's not unusual, they have a lot of cabins they have to take care of... if it was 11;40 in the evening, then I can certainly understand :eek: I certainly wouldn't get upset if they didn't clean my cabin as soon as I left it.... as long as they get it cleaned up by the time I need to use it in the afternoon I'm happy...

[fllady61]

All of our grocery stores have employees that do that...

 

 

Not here. YOU do it yourself, or it don't get done.

 

Actually, he was standing waiting on our cabin, and when we left we told him we were gone, he said OK, he was headed that way, then 3 hours later, it still was not done. Go figure. I have always had my cabin done up by 10 am till that trip.

 

In fact, our first cruise, we would go eat, then go back to the cabin, our room would be done up. we would leave for lunch, come back, our cabin was neat again. go to dinner, our cabin was neat again. We spent a lot of time in bed our first cruise.

 

Our second cruise, we would leave for breakfast, be gone an hour our cabin would be done up.

 

our third cruise is where the problem came.

 

fourth cruise, smooth sailing. and fifth cruise, smooth sailing. cabins done in a timly manor.

 

If the steward sees you leave, he should go to your room directly. since so many people are still sleeping at that time in the morning on sea days.

[GoinCruisin]

fourth cruise, smooth sailing. and fifth cruise, smooth sailing. cabins done in a timly manor.

 

If the steward sees you leave, he should go to your room directly. since so many people are still sleeping at that time in the morning on sea days.

 

I've always had my cabin cleaned in a timely manner as well, but that is subjective. If a cabin steward sees you leave, he may have other cabins he is tending to and can't just drop everything and leave, or something else may come up. There is nothing that says what time they have to have the cabin cleaned by, just that it is done twice a day. Hey, that is your feeling, and that is fine, but to me, it sounds like you feel the steward is there for your cabin and yours only and if he doesn't have it cleaned by the time you want it cleaned, he is not doing his job... I just have a different opinion on it. To each their own.

[thistoo]

Not here. YOU do it yourself, or it don't get done.

 

This is a regional thing. I've lived in most areas of the country, and some places (like FL), they don't offer to help with your bags. Other places (here in TN, for instance), they actually rush over to my cart to unload the groceries onto the belt before I can do it. Then they ask me if I want help out to my car. The first time they started unloading my cart I wasn't even sure what was happening; I had just moved here from FL and I wasn't used to that level of service. :D

 

Granted, this doesn't always happen, because I am young and perfectly capable and I think the kids at the local Kroger use their judgment about who will complain if they don't get multiple offers of help.

 

To get back on topic, I always tip $1 per bag. My family travels pretty light, though, so it doesn't usually set us back too much. :rolleyes:

[fllady61]

I've always had my cabin cleaned in a timely manner as well, but that is subjective. If a cabin steward sees you leave, he may have other cabins he is tending to and can't just drop everything and leave, or something else may come up. There is nothing that says what time they have to have the cabin cleaned by, just that it is done twice a day. Hey, that is your feeling, and that is fine, but to me, it sounds like you feel the steward is there for your cabin and yours only and if he doesn't have it cleaned by the time you want it cleaned, he is not doing his job... I just have a different opinion on it. To each their own.

 

 

No, I don't feel that way, If I did, I would go on DCL. Where I had a handmaid at my side 24/7. We even left the Please make up my stateroom sign on the door, and it was not done.

 

I just want my beds made, and the dirty towels picked up in a timely mannor.

 

not shower in the morning, then return after going into port and coming back an the same towels on the floor, and my bed not made.

 

We just got off the Sensation, and we did not have a problem with our cabin being cleaned in a timely mannor. He would see us leave, and he was there in our cabin before we got down the hallway. Not saying that I expected him to do this, but it was nice to know if he knew a cabin was empty he was there first. That is why he got a tip at the end of the cruise.

 

But last Janurary when we were on her, the steward did not do his/her job properly. In fact, i never saw that steward at all.

[GoinCruisin]

No, I don't feel that way, If I did, I would go on DCL. Where I had a handmaid at my side 24/7. We even left the Please make up my stateroom sign on the door, and it was not done.

 

I just want my beds made, and the dirty towels picked up in a timely mannor.

 

not shower in the morning, then return after going into port and coming back an the same towels on the floor, and my bed not made.

 

We just got off the Sensation, and we did not have a problem with our cabin being cleaned in a timely mannor. He would see us leave, and he was there in our cabin before we got down the hallway. Not saying that I expected him to do this, but it was nice to know if he knew a cabin was empty he was there first. That is why he got a tip at the end of the cruise.

 

But last Janurary when we were on her, the steward did not do his/her job properly. In fact, i never saw that steward at all.

 

Like I said, it was just my opinion :) You didn't mention that you had gone into port, you mentioned sea day, and you came back at 11:40, that is where my question came in. Yet you say that he was standing waiting on your cabin, and said he would get to it, and then you say you never saw him at all. Like I said, timely manner is subjective... my cabin has always been cleaned by 2pm which is reasonable to me. I certainly don't expect my cabin to be the first they do. To you it is obviously something different. C'est la vie.

[dan40]

first off, Our WALMART is not allowed to accept tips. NO tip buckets to be had in any walmart I have been in.

 

You have a store where there is someone to push your buggy out to your car and load your groceries????? WHERE????? Not here.

 

Are you talking WalMart store? Or any grocery? Because Publix certainly will push your buggy and load the bags into your car.

 

If you just meant WallyWorld, then yes the WalMart parking lot is where buggys go to die.

 

Dan

[Kurbanfan]

My room steward, if understanding, and brings me what I ask for, cleans my cabin in a timley mannor, then yes, I will tip him. We had one cruise when we left the cabin at 8 am and when we returned at 1140, our cabin was still not done up. so he did not get a good tip.. wait, he did not get a tip at all other than what he got out of the daily amount.

 

The auto tips are all you are obligated to pay so if you didn't feel they deserved a extra tip then don't. Not sure what the argument is about:confused:

There have been plenty of cruises where that is all we tipped.

[Fat Tuesday]

I have always given the porter $10 for 3 bags, that's just me and what I like doing. I'm sure that some give more and some give less. Not saying that this is the right thing to do but I have always got my bags, is it because of the tip? Don't know! I do know that the porter always smiles when I give them my tip and that I have always got my bags. That's good enough for me.:)

[gracie65]

I guess to most of you I over tip. I usually do about $15.00 for 4 bags. My luggage alway's seems to make it before the life boat drill. On the return I up it to $20.00 since they put it on the rollers & take it farther. That's just me.

[VentureMan_2000]

[quote name='fllady61']
You have a store where there is someone to push your buggy out to your car and load your groceries????? WHERE?????

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Funny... I have never heard of a grocery store [I]NOT[/I] pushing your cart (buggy) out to your car, if you ask, and un-loading the groceries into your car for you. This is not new... it's been going on for ten's of decades... 50 years or more for sure. Sounds like where you live is the exception, and not the rule.

Safeway Stores, one of the largest chains West of the Mississippi, requires them to ask each and every customer if they need "help out to your car". If they don't, then they get written up. All the other food chains have simular policies.

Maybe it's time for a move to a more customer friendly State... ;)

[fllady61]

[quote name='dan40']Are you talking WalMart store? Or any grocery? Because Publix certainly will push your buggy and load the bags into your car.

If you just meant WallyWorld, then yes the WalMart parking lot is where buggys go to die.

Dan[/quote]

Who can afford Publix? NOT ME.... i spend 20$ more on average at Publix than I do at my regular store. I prefer to get more for my money. But when I have gone to publix, they never offered to take my cart to the car for me.

It is just something you don't see that often in Florida.

I was talking walmart for the door greeter accepting tips. This is against their policy. They can get fired if caught. Just like at the parks. If the employee gets caught accepting a tip, they can be terminated.

[Firsttimescaredcruiser!]

Just my two cents for what it's worth.

My first cruise was the Elation out of Miami. I as a member of cruise critic and did all my homework. Found out that the typical tip at the pier was one dollar per bag. So I was prepared had my tip in hand as we got off our carnival transfer(bus) from the airport. I then became ticked as the two guys in white porter uniforms told us(the group from the bus) that they wouldn't want to be our bags if they didn't get a tip!! I felt very bad for the couple in front of us. She wasn't prepared and only had travelers checks. I told her to stand with us and I handed him my folded money. Said here is the tip for our bags.

My question is....how did he know which bags were mine? He didn't I never walked over to them. I had watched as they unloaded the luggage when we were on the bus, so I knew it was all there.

Just really made me angry ...to hear the spouting off as we came off
the bus.

NOW, as we came back a week later our bags were in the customs warehouse... the sweetest gentleman known to man came up and I asked if he could take care of our bags...Not once did he beg, demand or try to scare a tip from us.

I gave him 20. just because I wanted to. If I'd had more cash on me I would have gladly given more.
:p

[kcCruiseDJ]

[quote name='VentureMan_2000']

My position is that you should not be giving the Porters a TIP at all... they make Union Wages for loading your luggage into cages to be loaded onto the ship. Once loaded onto the ship, their job ends.

Your TIP should really be going to the Crew of the Carnival ship that actually hump your bags up from the bowels of the ship to your cabin.

Now, it's the Ship's Crew that deserves a TIP!

Sorry... but the Porters do nothing up and beyond to get your luggage on the ship... so why TIP them...?

Oh... I know why you should TIP them... so your luggage does not end up in the drink. That's a $1 per bag well spent... but not well deserved by the Porters.[/quote]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=darkred][B]I agree with you that it's the Ship's crew that deserves the tips and not the porters, (I will still tip generously to the porters) however, I can only speak factually about the Long Beach, CA long shoremen. Not all long shoremen are in the union and have a hefty benefits plan. There is also "casual" long shoremen ~ they do not make the same amount as the ID, though still a good hourly wage, and the casuals do not have any health insurance or benefits and [U]presently are only working one day a week[/U]. Maybe someday they will get into the union etc. but working one day a week, that'll be in 5-10 years. Odds are it's ID long shoremen that are doing the porter job, the porter jobs are highly coveted jobs and usually the casual long shoremen don't get this job. I can tell you a "smart" casual long shoreman would never take a chance of throwing luggage into the water and risk ever becoming a coveted ID longshoreman. Just curious has anyone actually seen a long shoreman throw luggage into the water? You think with today's technology there would be cameras everywhere monitoring everything. [/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

[Captain Funtime]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Comic Sans MS]IMO. Most cruisers are newbies. (not a bad thing...we need new input) They don't realize that the porters are making more than MOST of us and a portion of the $$$$ is sans tax. Is there an answer ?[/FONT][/SIZE]

[NYHartChapp]

[quote name='kcCruiseDJ'][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=darkred][B]I agree with you that it's the Ship's crew that deserves the tips and not the porters, (I will still tip generously to the porters) however, I can only speak factually about the Long Beach, CA long shoremen. Not all long shoremen are in the union and have a hefty benefits plan. There is also "casual" long shoremen ~ they do not make the same amount as the ID, though still a good hourly wage, and the casuals do not have any health insurance or benefits and [U]presently are only working one day a week[/U]. Maybe someday they will get into the union etc. but working one day a week, that'll be in 5-10 years. Odds are it's ID long shoremen that are doing the porter job, the porter jobs are highly coveted jobs and usually the casual long shoremen don't get this job. I can tell you a "smart" casual long shoreman would never take a chance of throwing luggage into the water and risk ever becoming a coveted ID longshoreman. Just curious has anyone actually seen a long shoreman throw luggage into the water? You think with today's technology there would be cameras everywhere monitoring everything. [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/quote]

Well, there's always the "mis-numbered" cabin, or even the dreaded "lost luggage". Why not just throw a couple of bucks their way and generate a little bit of "good will"?.

[VentureMan_2000]

[quote name='Firsttimescaredcruiser!']So I was prepared had my tip in hand as we got off our carnival transfer(bus) from the airport. I then became ticked as the two guys in white porter uniforms told us(the group from the bus) that they wouldn't want to be our bags if they didn't get a tip!!

[/quote]


Maimi hasn't changed a bit... same exact crap I experienced over 20 years ago... :mad:

[VentureMan_2000]

[quote name='NYHartChapp']"good will"?.

[/quote]

Are you kidding...? Good Will... you refer to getting shaken down as good will...? :mad: