Ventura and smoking

[capasamari]

The most well-known case of someone contracting lung cancer from passive smoking was the trumpeter Roy Castle, caused by playing his trumpet in smoky jazz clubs over many years.

 

If I remember correctly, the campaign to ban smoking in public places started after this high profile death as Roy had never smoked himself, so the risk from passive smoking was established beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Carol x

[bobarnie]

The most well-known case of someone contracting lung cancer from passive smoking was the trumpeter Roy Castle, caused by playing his trumpet in smoky jazz clubs over many years.

 

If I remember correctly, the campaign to ban smoking in public places started after this high profile death as Roy had never smoked himself, so the risk from passive smoking was established beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Carol x

I do remember that and stand corrected. But there is a world of difference between playing a trumpet in a smoke filled jazz club and standing near a smoker whilst out on deck dont you think ?

[peterv]

The most well-known case of someone contracting lung cancer from passive smoking was the trumpeter Roy Castle, caused by playing his trumpet in smoky jazz clubs over many years.

 

If I remember correctly, the campaign to ban smoking in public places started after this high profile death as Roy had never smoked himself, so the risk from passive smoking was established beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Carol x

 

Just because a person gets lung cancer does not mean it was because of passive smoking. Lung cancer is not exclusively caused by smoking you know. As for being a well-known case, well let's just say it is a convenient excuse to blame passive smoking. After all living in cities has the best quality air around! :rolleyes:

 

The fact remains that if it were so deadly then it would be easy to point at passive smoking as a cause considering the numbers of people who smoked in the past and that you could smoke everywhere.

 

What on earth will people blame next when this false sense of security is revealed to be based on scare-mongering rather than fact. Oh, yeah, now they are worried about third-hand smoking causing the same thing.

 

For those that do not know the new bad thing is third-hand smoking ie being around a person who has smoked.

 

Cheers,

Peter

[capasamari]

The trouble is that smoking is not actually good for anyone.

 

I am a registered childminder and find it upsetting having to administer asthma inhalers to small children whose parents smoke. It is also not pleasant when their coats hanging in my hall and their lunch boxes when I open them smell of stale cigarette smoke. It is illegal for anyone to smoke in my house when the minded children are present.

 

I accept any adult has the right to smoke, but it can impact on other people and cause offence (which I hope I haven't :)).

 

Carol x

[Biro]

This has ran its race a simple question has degenerated into the usual nonsense.What child minding has got to do with the original question is beyond me.All statutory bases have been covered Roy Castle, obesity, drink would someone make reference to the Star Princess for the full house and this can be shut down

[capasamari]

The original question had been fully answered.

 

The discussion had evolved as further questions were asked and answered.

 

Carol x

[kdee69]

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But then ask the question if you were dying of lung cancer caused by passive smoking would you rather people had spat at you rather than blown smoke at you.

 

Chris

 

Do they have glandular fever?

[bobarnie]

Do they have glandular fever?

 

Or the ebola virus lol :-)

thanks to you all for your input, it is always interesting to read the differences of opinion and makes for a healthy debate.

[plewes]

couldn't get a definitive answer from P&O about their smoking policy on the Ventura ahead of cruising but was pleased to discover onboard that the entire starboard side on open decks was smoking and the entire port side on open decks was non-smoking (the non-smoking port side Prom deck was ALWAYS deserted even during beautiful sunsets, whereas the starboard side Prom deck was social chatty and friendly all day round with smokers nipping out for a cigarette and a chat). No smoking allowed in cabins but smoking was allowed on balconies.

[lostinvegas]

I agree I was being a little confrontational with my statements, the reason is I do thing there is more room for sensible debate on this subject.

 

There must be a compromise which everyone is happy with. Personally I was happy on Ventura and I did not hear any complaints from any of the smokers.

 

I guess we were lucky because the people on the balconies either side of us were not smokers, so I guess my opinion might be different in different circumstance.

 

In my case I would re-book P&O over Carnival who allow smoking in some areas inside.

 

Chris

[bobarnie]

I agree I was being a little confrontational with my statements, the reason is I do thing there is more room for sensible debate on this subject.

 

There must be a compromise which everyone is happy with. Personally I was happy on Ventura and I did not hear any complaints from any of the smokers.

 

I guess we were lucky because the people on the balconies either side of us were not smokers, so I guess my opinion might be different in different circumstance.

 

In my case I would re-book P&O over Carnival who allow smoking in some areas inside.

 

Chris

No worries Chris and I agree with you entirely. Your name sounds like you frequent the casino, do they have any texas holdem events during their cruises ?