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Well as much as I would love to do a TA, the airfare to arrive at embarkation port and leave from a different disembarkation port is considerably higher than a return ticket using same airhead (in this case Amsterdam).  I personally would take the return from AMS ticket and use what I saved from the open jaw ticket to spend a day or two more in Amsterdam.   If you are fortunate enough to only have to buy a one way ticket to Barcelona if you live near Cape Liberty then I'd do the TA.  Curious as to how rough the Atlantic may be in October though.  What ever you choose, have a great cruise!!!

Many calls could be to cancel since the announcement they could not accept the AstraZenica and MRNa mix.  Here in Canada many werent given the choice.  I'm fine as I was lucky but other family members aren't.   Of course if one can't cruise now, the rest if the family will cancel as well.  I'm sure they'll get it all sorted eventually......but if I was close to final payment I'd be cancelling now. 

Interesting.  There has been a recall on several machines in the past month and people have been told not to use them because something to supress the sound is breaking down and the particles could be inhaled.  Wonder if that's why she didn't take the machine if that's the case

Now that I have seen the form (posted above) I do have a couple of concerns.

I know that we had these to fill out prior to embarkation over the years, however it was a paper copy where you could add "notes" or comments (which I did) and answer a question if they asked.

With this electronic version, unless the whole form isn't showing - there is just a "yes" or "no" answer with no room for any type of comment.   When we answer honestly (which we plan on doing), they are going to look at our forms and their red flags are going to pop up and wave . 

There is no place to add comments or clarification (i.e. allergies and therefore I have a runny nose and take this Rx, or he has arthritis, therefore body aches and pains and takes this, or I have had **insert whatever** ..for x number of years.   Perhaps it should have been worded  "in the last 14 days have you developed new or worsening......." or a clarification block so they will know whatever could be a chronic condition and not at all related to COVID.   Also notice it does not ask if a person is partly or fully vaccinated (although I understand that there is a law in some states that does not allow that).

People say they have to answer this type of question when reporting for work (as do I, with no issue), but to get to work I haven't spent over $2000 for two airfares and paid for a cruise. it's easy to explain to someone why you answered "yes" to a question but this is all electronic.   Is Carnival going to look at these and send an e-mail saying "Sorry, you can't sail" or will they come back for exxtra information?   Or wait until you've crossed the continent to say "Oh, you checked off "yes" to a question, we're sorry"?   If think some fine tuning/rewording may be necessary.

Interesting.  Wonder what all it entails?  Just COVID info/vaccine status or other things?  I know just before the total shut down last March they were turning away diabetics (even if only on pills and not insulin) and a host of other pre-existing conditions.   I don't want to book airfare to travel clear across the continent onky to find out some in our party may not be able to board.  

Just noticed that the Hawaii cruise has totally disappeared from "Manage My Booking".   When I tried to re-add it, it indicates that there is no reservation under that number.   Wonder if they're inaccessible until they have everyone sorted out down to the 14 day from 15 day or maybe they're re-assigning new booking numbers?   Anyone else on the departure from Long Beach on 20 February 2022 for Hawaii on the Miracle see their bookings?

12 hours ago, Beave8920 said:

I'm not sure of your sailing dates, but mine were Feb 18th, 2023....moved to Feb 19th.  If you check the sailings for the Miracle for those dates, there is a void.  It sails on on a 5 day Feb 14th, (back on the 19th) then again on Mar 9th.....but nothing listed in between.

 

So I'm guessing they haven't released the Hawaii dates yet.  You might check the dates of your cruise to see if you have a similiar situation.

Thanks - I did it the way you suggested and it appears that there is a break there during my dates - but seeing as the Sailabration cruises are all listed there (which is how I was looking before), maybe we have lost the Sailabration part of our cruise....which was part of the reason I booked....  We'll see what happens. 

Keeping track of all the cancellations and changes and rules/regulations is getting a little overwhelming to say the least.  Envy people within driving distance of a port - at least they don't have to deal with flight changes/cancellations as well.  

Yes, it did say in email it would take until end February.   But if all three ships from Long Beach have other cruises on the site that are available for booking for those dates then it leaves me concerned.  Why would they be accepting bookings for all three ships for Mexican Riviera if one of the ships supposed to be enroute to Hawaii at that time??   Just seems strange.

We were notified a while back that our original cruise out of San Diego on the Miracle was being changed to depart Long Beach one day later. (not an issue because now we don't have to get off one ship in Long Beach and try to get to San Diego the same day).

I was subsequently told by my travel agent that she had spoken to Carnival (she was interested in booking that herself) and they indicated to her that the ship was going to be changed out from Miracle to Radiance.

I'm online and see cruises for the Miracle, Radiance and Panorama out of Long Beach in Feb 2022 but none of them are going to Hawaii and there's shorter cruises that are there for the dates we were supposed to be cruising.   We had booked the Journerys/Sailabration cruise but all three of the ships I just listed show the Sailabration but on shorter cruises.

Wonder if they're going to send another ship or if our trip is now going to be non-existant.   We are on the Panorama the week before but if the Hawaii trip isn't going we really will have to decide if we want to invest in the airfare, etc to fly all the way to the west coast for 7 day cruise instead of 21 days of cruising..... The airfare and pre/post hotel stay can be very costly....

Anyone heard any scuttlebutt?

Outside of Fredericton, NB

52 minutes ago, bitemyfly said:

Interesting florida is vaccinating Canadians  , they just made it a bit harder as of next week  now they need to show a rental agreement or some utility bill 

Don't blame them for making it harder.  Only logic I could see if they were in a gated community  and they were vaccinating everyone to protect all residents.... those were meant for FL residents.  We are supposed to be staying home as per our government regulations.

22 minutes ago, gtalum said:

 

The US has no quarantine rules on entry from most countries, but we do now require a negative COVID test for anyone entering.

According to this news article it's coming...   https://globalnews.ca/news/7591304/us-quarantine-rules-international-travel/

Currently, if we leave our own province we have to self isolate for 14 days on our return (and possibly isolate 14 days when entering the province we visit)

New rule starting very shortly - if we leave the country and are coming back home, we have to go to a COVID hotel for 3 days at our own expense of approx $2000/person.  If test that was done on re-entry comes back negative (approx 3 days) we can go home but have to still isolate until a total of 14 days is over.  If we test positive, we have to go to the government COVID facility.  I believe this also applies to anyone entering country.  There are now only 4 airports that will accept non-domestic flights)

I believe the US is putting a 10 day quarantine on travellers coming from outside US as well....so in order to cruise we would have to isolate 10 days pre-cruise, 10 days post cruise, then 14 days once home.....  so unless we have oodles of money and oodles of time, then I'd say most of us won't be cruising.  By instituting the $2000/person re-entry fees here, the government is trying to stop us from travelling right now.  We have been advised not to make any travel plans, even in our own province   

I know it's a regulation for ships to have to stop in a "foreign" country, but based on the circumstances could the US not make a temporary exemption in this case in order to help with the Alaskan economy?   

I suspect they have to do all the paperwork for those of us that were already booked (the OBC  plus the one day pro-rated back).  There was also a date where people had option to cancel.  I imagine everything will go back up with available spaces once all that is done.

3 hours ago, 80sGal said:

The way I read this is that it applies to non-American travelers.   Americans would not be denied re-entry to the US from the way this article is worded.   

Says UK, European countries, etc but doesn't mention Canada.   I guess time will tell...

9 hours ago, mcrcruiser said:

Wow we just checked the Carnival Web site & our October 15 .2022 Hawaii ,15 night cruise from San Diego is no longer listed as a viable cruise  .So here we go shopping again 

 

 Need to phone the TA & let him know to get back our deposit 

Miracle is moving to Long Beach.   Cruises are being changed to 14 days.   Cost of lost cruise day is being pro-rated by Carnival and a $200.00 OBC.   No need to do anything apparently - they're changing all reservations - you may have an e-mail by now.

I see where the CDC quarantine upon re-entering the US from international destination is 10 days..... I just can't find where there's a date it comes into effect....

I suspect this will be dictated either by the CDC or the ports to be visited.   I remember MANY years ago I had to have cholera shots to go to Italy.   They had to be no more than 6 months old.   I remember the airline checking our vaccination books and checking the dates before we were permitted to board the plane here in Canada to fly over.   Then I believe it was Customs that checked when we returned home.  

This was just due to a cholera outbreak in a small area of Italy, so I suspect with this being a major pandemic, countries will do what they feel they have to do to protect their citizens (and many of those countries do not have the medical capabilities that the US and Canada does).   

My booked cruise for Feb 2022 has disappeared from the search page  - it was San Diego to Hawaii on the Miracle.  Still shows under "Manage" as a booking though.   We planned on getting off the Panorama in Long Beach and getting down to San Diego to sail in a B2B so to speak.   Wonder if they're just juggling things around (different ship maybe) or if it's going to be a no-go.   Also not listed under Journey's cruise or Sailabration.....  

22 hours ago, Sailin_Pirate said:

 

carnival.com has info on canceled cruises

 

There is also a way to check by adding the sail date/ship name in the "canceled cruises" section linked at the top of their page.

Nothing there.   Tried to walk a friend through to find the cruise as she's interested but it's not there - by ship, port or destination......  Even tried looking under Journey's cruises and Sailabration and nothing..... Guess I'll just have to wait it out.....

Just noticed now that the Sailabration cruise from San Diego to Hawaii and return on the Miracle isn't showing for February 2022.   Nothing coming up for Hawaii and the port of San Diego is greyed out.   The cruise is still in my Cruise Manager though.  

Wonder if it's cancelled???  

I guess the next issue the cruise lines may have to address is the mandatory quarantine that's coming in for any international traveler coming into the US.    This may affect bookings, cancellations, extra paperwork or much longer disembarkation through customs?    Hard to say but its possible.

Hard to say how long it will be.   With the quarantine for people who have travelled internationally coming into effect shortly, demand will probably go down as a lot of people don't have 10 days to spend after a cruise.   For those of us travelling in from Canada (or another country) to sail, we are looking at approx 24 days on either end of cruise in quarantine (can't you just imagine what that would cost?) and then another 14 once we get home.....  The cruise lines probably have a lot to consider (or perhaps waiting to see if the quarantine will be required at the end of a cruise - or even if a B2B will be allowed)

I don't blame the cruise lines or the US for trying to keep everyone safe and get this under control.... just mad at the virus.

Booked the 19 Feb cruise to Hawaii on Miracle so we will be meeting the Panorama.  Booked before this COVID thing fully exploded.  Hoping they can get to sailings over 7 days or this cruise will get cancelled.