“What Will It Take to Get Cruises Sailing Again?”

https://www.travelandleisure.com/cruises/cruises-after-coronavirus

“Carnival, the largest of the three, is the most likely to survive, generating nearly double the trailing revenue as Royal Caribbean. One also can't write off Royal Caribbean, as the player with the strong margins. Norwegian seems to be the odd man out here, but it's more likely to be acquired -- at a pittance, but acquired nonetheless -- unless the market is so bad in a year or two that an oversupply of ships exists for what could be dicey demand. “

Read full article here:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/05/will-carnival-royal-caribbean-and-norwegian-cruise.aspx

We are booked on March 2021 cruise Singapore to Dubai. It sold out early and we booked last August. The entire cruise was waitlisted. Now many rooms are available. I am sure we will cancel though we will eat the $3400 Alliance Travel Insurance policy. Not sure we will ever cruise again.

Even CLIA is acknowledging no bail out. See article below.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/cruise-line-bailout/

I have a really hard time believing Regent always does the “ right thing”. They cancelled the cruise going out of San Diego days after they should have, and incidentally, hours before the other cruise lines shut down at the request of the President. Am I the only one that thinks this is coincidental? All cruises should have returned to port as soon as CDC and the State Department issued their advisories for citizens not to cruise. What is clear is Regent does the right thing for there bottom line. Regent is a business, not family. I am rapidly losing my taste for cruising.

Cruise ships kept sailing as coronavirus spread. Travelers and health experts question why.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruise-ships-kept-sailing-as-coronavirus-spread-travelers-and-health-experts-question-why/2020/03/20/5b640f14-67e2-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/19/its-still-not-safe-to-board-cruise-stocks-again.aspx

2 hours ago, Fran&Steve said:

Hold nose and buy NCL. (Not a recommendation; an article in financial press) 
 

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4332075-hold-your-nose-and-buy-norwegian

Doubt this posts lasts. Cruise critic doesn’t like articles critical of the cruise industry.

Just got an email from Uniworld River Cruises. They have suspended all European  itineraries until April 23. I’m sure other companies will follow.

Tests indicate the coronavirus can live up to three hours in the air after and three days on plastic and other surfaces.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487110-tests-indicate-coronavirus-can-survive-in-the-air

“Leaked Emails: Norwegian Cruise Lines Pressures Sales Team to Lie About”

This is where I found it.

 https://www.newsweek.com/norwegian-cruise-lines-leaked-emails-show-company-urging-employees-lie-about-coronavirus-1491777

USA Today has a banner that that CLIA is proposing to the White House that those 70 or older should be banned from boarding cruise ships. 

I watched Pence’s new conference yesterday and he hinted about forcing the cruise industry to protect the most vulnerable, so I’m not surprised if it is to limit the age allowed on cruise ships. Based on the statistic published by WHO the mortality rate doubles every decade after 50. 

10 minutes ago, behooves said:

Isn't Port Everglades Fort Lauderdale?

Yes. I’ve edited the post. It’s actually much larger than Miami but Regent uses Miami’s port.

Welcome to the Port of Fort Lauderdale
3 Port Everglades hospitality workers test positive for Covid-19.
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/11/3-covid-19-patients-worked-at-various-port-everglades-cruise-terminals/

There are two sources that provide age, sex, and comorbidity statistics: 

We will list data from both, labeling them as "confirmed cases" and "all cases" respectively in the tables.

Age of Coronavirus Deaths

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19. 

This the relevant part of the WHO recommendations:
 

”Recommendations for international travellers

It is prudent for travellers who are sick to delay or avoid travel to affected areas, in particular for elderly travellers and people with chronic diseases or underlying health conditions.”

Elsewhere in the statement they define affected areas to include those countries with diagnosed cases.

So that makes, CDC and the US Department of State who advise all US citizens to avoid boarding cruise ships, and WHO who advises elderly and people with chronic diseases to delay or avoid travel to affected areas. 
And no they don’t specifically mention cruises but they don’t specify any means of travel in their advisory. 

42 minutes ago, Travelcat2 said:

 

Thank you for understanding.  I'm not going to listen to the news or read this thread today as information remains all over the place.   

Finally the international and domestic health authorities have coalesced in their advice regarding high risk individuals. Individuals will have to weigh  the risks vs benefits of travel, particularly cruises, in the foreseeable future. 

“It is prudent for travellers who are sick to delay or avoid travel to affected areas, in particular for elderly travellers and people with chronic diseases or underlying health conditions.”

The above quote is from the WHO sight.

“But public health experts say cruise ships are particularly dangerous places during outbreaks because of the combination of close quarters and staff members without the needed training and resources.
This is probably the least ideal environment to try and quarantine and maintain proper infection prevention measures,” said Saskia Popescu, an epidemiologist with Honor Health, a Phoenix hospital system.“

Read entire article:https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/dozens-of-passengers-on-a-stranded-cruise-ship-are-infected-by-coronavirus-that-number-could-soon-grow/2020/03/06/17cf1974-5fdb-11ea-b014-4fafa866bb81_story.html

38 minutes ago, Travelcat2 said:

Agree that airports (and planes) are problematic.  With all of this information, have you cancelled your Regent cruise?

I just returned from a Viking South American cruise. This started up while we were on that cruise. Our next trip is a Tuack tour of Machu Picchu in October. To early to cancel and we have not made final payment. Having dealt with both Tauck and Regent, I’d rather deal with Tauck. Tauck’s customer service is unbelievable, though I have not had problems with Regent.  

My next Regent cruise is a Singapore to Dubai in March 2021, much to early to cancel now  and have not made final payment.

We live in FL and have a trip planned to Washington DC. We usually fly but will drive to avoid airports.

Frankly, if you can afford either Tauck or Regent  and you are that concerned about contagions, you can afford the cancelation fee, or even the entire cost if after final payment. I’m having trouble visualizing passengers sitting in business class with masks and face guards. Easier not to fly.

Reposted below.

I’m having problems with CLIA’s new update. The virus is now in many States and, according to local authorities, has probably been smoldering in Washington State for six weeks. Seems to me traveling through airports is problematic, especially since a significant number of the infected are asymptomatic. I suspect it’s just a matter of time before it’s everywhere in this country, including cruise ships. While the original prohibition of people travel through parts of Asia was prudent, I think this is rapidly being overtaken by events.

AMEX Platinum will make arrangements but you are responsible for the charges. International medical evacuation can exceed $100,000.00, which is why I have MedJet Assist.  They require you be hospitalized and have a accepting hospital and the evacuation charges are covered by the policy. The policy covers you domestically and internationally as long as you are 50 miles from your home of record and are hospitalized. They will not evacuate you from a ship;  I carry additional medical evacuation insurance, but this coverage is via reimbursement. Med Jet Assist does not cover medical costs so additional insurance is required for hospital and physician charges  Neither my husband or I have reached 75 and I’ve always wondered what changes at that age. Now I know.