Thorncroft

44 minutes ago, jxtgreek said:

I wish these cruise lines would comment on what their plans are for ports such as Tampa.

If Tampa would dredge under the bridge to lower the water level, any ship should be able to clear the bridge, right? No problems. 🤭

Mobile is where cruise ships go to die... before Aliaga, of course.

You can kiss Sensation goodbye. It's headed to Mobile where Carnival sends their ships to die. Holiday and now Fantasy were unceremoniously kicked to the curb while Elation barely escaped with her life because Carnival needed her to fulfill a contract obligation elsewhere. Now Sensation will be on deck with one foot in the grave.

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Tampa needs Carnival way more than Carnival needs Tampa. When the Fantasy and Spirit class music stops Tampa will be left without a chair unless they get with the program now. Ask San Diego and Mobile how fast Carnival will pull up anchor and haul a** somewhere else. 

6 minutes ago, xDisconnections said:

@Thorncroftis an expert on the port of Mobile. Maybe he can share some insight?

While this all sounds very intriguing, Mobile is where cruise ships go to die. Mobile killed the Holiday and now the Fantasy. You realize that any ship that goes there is on death watch, right?  How badly do you want to suicide your ship? I doubt that Carnival wants to give up any more ships than they've already decided to cull from the fleet. Ironically, the ink is barely dry on a fresh new 3-year contract between Carnival and Mobile. Will they send another ship or just buy out the contract and be done with Mobile? The timing was certainly not on Carnival's side. 

Ecstasy looks  rough.  Wow! 

4 hours ago, sfaaa said:

Let's get the priority straight, shall we? In Canada, hockey season comes first, then cruise season and in that order.

I totally get that.  The joke here is the governor declaring "if y'all want football season, stay your a** at the house". 

2 hours ago, MsTabbyKats said:

 

 

Adding:  I'm still waiting for someone to come up with "the elevator solution".

That's easy. Close every other elevator and don't allow more than one elevator per floor at a time. 😂

20 hours ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:

 

Still waiting for a good analysis of that. Seabourn got through the March/April debacle with its rep largely unscathed ... but Swartz and her minions made Princess the poster child for catastrophic mismanagement during a pandemic. Arnold and Duffy have been barnacles, too. That's the crew that should've gotten the gate.

Swartz is a serial magic piper. Blowing hearts and kisses to the peeps dying on her ship was tone-deaf and a total lack of self awareness. 

19 minutes ago, rvsullivan said:

And yet the cruises he hosts are always sold out in advance!!!

He does have a faithful following. Carnival knows that if they have a dog of a cruise that isn't selling, they can slap him onboard and sell it on out. But this only happens a couple of times a year and you'll be lucky to catch him out of his cabin. He'd much rather be Facebooking. 

It's time for John Heald to retire and let someone younger takeover. He doesn't appeal to the younger demographic nearly as much as he did to the geriatrics and scooter mafia. 

On 5/3/2020 at 3:20 PM, ray98 said:

 

Math....this drama has been unfolding since January which slowed crew movement way down.  The earliest cruise date to return is basically July.  Even those who started a contract first of the year would be 6 months in at that point, they only work 7 month contracts.  Everyone from late fall/early winter are at the end.

So you're just guessing but stating it as fact. Nice. 

I'm not sure that the cruise industry will ever return to the level it was at 2 months ago.  Who would've ever thought that 25 million people would become unemployed in the span of a few weeks and decimate them financially? It's not even over yet, at this point. This will leave lasting scars that will have people second guessing every dollar that they spend, for years to come, not including the crowds at Walmart that are lined up to buy the biggest TV that they can get for $1200.  

This is the perfect time for Carnival to impliment wholesale changes across the board. They can return from hiatus and spring a brand new product on everybody. Then we can return to this thread and reminisce about how the worst thing Carnival had done was eliminate plastic straws so you had to chug your drink before your straw dissolved. 

1 hour ago, Theosprey247 said:

How come Carnival doesn’t....

 

Rusty Ships....

 

Do all adults in a cabin need to purchase Cheers?

I saw Fantasy on a news report, yesterday.  The rust was horrible. Christine should be mortified, but somehow I'm betting that she's the reason for it, with Arnold dancing in his tan suit, behind her. 

Carnival is the best positioned to weather this.  They've been agonizingly conservative at times.  Personally, I think one of the three major US lines will end in bankruptcy, but it won't be Carnival. 

Is the Max back flying, yet? Yeah, I think cruising will be paused for a lot longer than people think and maybe with not all of the lines will returning. 

In addition to all the sick people running around, pay attention to the devastating impact that this is having on international trade, shipping and logistics.  It's not just a health and safety issue. 

Is the quarantine on the Princess Corona farm still supposed to end on the 19th? 

Personally, I think that rust on black or dark colors looks worse than rust on white. The reddish brown streaks on white are classic, but on black and dark blue especially, the streaks take on an oily, iridescent, rainbow look that is just hideous, to me. 

23 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

lol, sometimes we just cannot help ourselves but to drag in that dead horse and beat her again........

Gathering around the dead horse in eulogy is what teaches us how not to repeat the mistakes that killed said horse. Unless there is an inexplicable determination to kill the entire herd. 

9 hours ago, WhaleTailFlCruiser said:

Old News, Carnival has taken great strides into correcting its issues. 

Yes, that's why they keep being dragged into court to be brow beaten by the judge. 

33 minutes ago, Organized Chaos said:

 

 

 

Now, whether or not the captain should've made the attempt at that particular moment, that's for another discussion, but considering others ships had docked successfully ahead of the Glory, it stands to reason that that captain believed he could, too.

Hubris has been the cause of many crashes on land, sea and air. 

I think it's unlikely that they'll fix this damage while under way.  With all the cutting and welding that will be required, the risk of fire is too strong to allow passengers on board while repairs are in progress. They may patch the holes in the ship and block off the interior area and cruise on until a slot opens up in a shipyard to make proper repairs. They'll need some custom ordered parts anyway, such as the windows, that won't be immediately available. 

 If you're on any airline other than Frontier, you'll be flying into MOB.  Frontier flies into BFM, downtown.  There are plenty of hotels close to BFM, but hardly any near MOB. At that time of night, though, it will be a pretty fast drive to lodging along the I-65 beltline or even downtown, close to the cruise terminal. Check https://www.mobile.org/ for lodging options and you can probably call them direct to check on airport shuttles.