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41 minutes ago, SargassoPirate said:

Still waiting on your reference to the Food Service Sanitation Manual that addresses when and where gloves are required for food workers.

 

Maybe you can add your view on how gloves worn while touching contaminated surfaces and then food or clean utensils is an acceptable practice.

 

Until then, I stand by my view that gloves worn by food service workers only serve to keep their hands clean AND serve as excellent vectors for cross contamination.

"They should be used when handling ready- to-eat food. The exceptions include when washing produce, or when handling ready-to-eat ingredients for a dish that will be cooked to the correct internal temperature. Gloves must never be used in place of handwashing."

this is taken from the us servesafe manager handbook. That all American restaurants need to have a manager on duty certified by. 

I'm not trying to change your mind on anything, I don't really want to waste either if our time with that. I do want you to stop "having a little fun" by quizzing food service workers about doing their jobs. I can assure you they don't appreciate your trying to prove how much smarter you are than they are. It's not a good look. 

https://www.smchealth.org/sites/main/files/file-attachments/servsafe_glove_use_11.15.pdf?1485884271#:~:text=They%20should%20be%20used%20when,used%20in%20place%20of%20handwashing.

39 minutes ago, SargassoPirate said:

Don't intend to be rude at all.  Having been retired for a number of years, my copy of the US Public Health Service Food Service Sanitation Manual is out of date.  Perhaps you can refer me to the sections in the current manual that addresses where and when gloves are required for food service workers.

 

The answer to the most contaminated areas in medical and food operations, in my experience, were:

 

Medical - door knobs and stethoscopes.  Swab samples transferred to a petri dish grew more cultures than anything else.

 

Food Operations - visually the nastiest places were the big can opener for #10 cans and the back of the meat slicer.  I could check those two locations and know how the rest of the inspection was going to go.  Swab cultures - anywhere near the cash register and the knobs on hand and dishwashing sinks were consistently contaminated.  Plastic gloves were not ubiquitous back then - but I would love to take some swab samples nowadays.

 

As I've said before, be suspicious of any food workers who wear plastic gloves and watch closely what those gloves touch.

Food Worker Handwashing and Restaurant Factors - EHS-Net Study Findings and Recommendations (cdc.gov)

Specifically: Handwashing may not always be enough to stop the spread of germs from hands to food. So the FDA recommends use of barriers such as gloves to stop the spread of germs. But research on handwashing and glove use in restaurants shows that these practices do not occur as often as they should. To improve these practices, we must understand factors linked with these practices. We interviewed and watched food workers to collect data on these practices.

Once again, please don't go in "quizzing" the people that are wearing gloves. These people are just following the rules. They should be regularly cleaning their can openers, changing the sanitizer, and changing gloves and washing hands between different foods. The front-line workers are following the rules to the best of their ability, and to the direction of their management staff. instead of quizzing them on the reasoning behind why they do things (the answer is always because they are paid to), you should ask about their day, if they got to get off the ship, when they get to go home.  These people are my people, I respect them and appreciate them. I currently and have always worked in food service, it's a hard enough job without know it all's trying to show how much smarter they are then the rest of us. 

Has anyone ever seen the Rudi’s Sel de Mer popup on the Zaandam?

I am also wondering this. We are going to be visiting, during easter of 2024. 

Hello, my wife has Platinum status on Princes Captain Circle.  I have been searching and searching to see if HAL status matches but have found nowhere. Does HAL status match with CCL lines? Thank you all in advance for your help and advice. 

My wife is also looking for recommendations for this if possible. 

So if you buy a $90 carnival gift card from AARP you can cash it out in the casino for $100? 

I bring Oxivir health care wipes, (Clorox health care wipes with H2O2 work also). Only thing that kills Noro viruses. Clean all the hard surfaces in the room right when we enter. Also works great when we get on the plane trip for the nasty tray tables, vents, arm rests seat backs.... best to clean a little when we get some where rather than catching the Caribbean crud from the last person that used the room or seat..... I also do this with hotel rooms. Regular Clorox or Lysol wipes don't do much except give you a false scene of surface clean. Both of these can be bought on wallmart.com 

I noticed this price discrepancy with the 20% off then cruise planner would not work so you need to call and the price was like 45% more. So I said no thank-you,  Also when I got the survey I blasted how terrible it all was. There website, their sale, there making me phone and speak with some one who has no idea that sale means sale. Any way long story short, I will take a train and enjoy the country side instead of being crammed in a bus. 

Is the 18% added to the Package price or per drink?

Great! thank you for the info. 

On the classic package can you get smoothies and canned soda included?  

I am so glad to here this, I will be on the Eclipse on Halloween this year!

I had mine out 6 years ago and now I take a bile supplement (ox bile 125mg) with every meal to ensure I don't suffer stomach pain from food. Higher fat foods require an extra pill no fat foods require 1 less pill. I have no pain but I am still careful about what I eat, stay away from deep fried foods and high fats if I can.

When I see some one write a check I think 1 of 2 things. A) That person is old B) That check is going to BOUNCE. For real 2018....

I wonder why we don't see more canned water? It would be a great alternative to plastic bottles.

We plan to go to the Zoo Bio Parc.

People need to take the stairs more often, and complain about elevators less. I need to be pretty drunk before I get in a germ filled elevator with the likes of cruise passengers..... YUCK!

Frog island ice tea

Do you know what Malaga does for Dia De Los Muertos? I will be there this year and would love to soak up some tradition, and must do for this Day of the year. I know it's still over 7 months away but I'm a planner.

If you fly PDX to LAX on southwest you can get better prices from LAX to Rome. Southwest to LAX can be as cheap as $79 a way.

We loved Flick, we skipped the welcome aboard show. Liberty was in great shape in January loved every minute of the cruise. We did the 4 day.

What was the Antarctica disaster?

The report says the inspection was on the 4th not the 18th....?

I was on the trip that disembarked on the 18th. The trip home was nowhere near as dramatic as Nevada Jen recalls. We were at the show at 11pm and all the performers were there. We never had any issues in our room with suitcases bouncing etc. It was a bit bigger of a sea night then the past few nights had been but in no way was it rough seas that night. Every one in my party of 10 slept well. I am disappointed to hear that they failed the health inspection and expect they will do better the next time. I still find Carnival to do a much better job at overall sanitation the on other lines, although my next cruise will be on Celebrity and the Eclipse just scored a 100% so there is that.