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Just to add my two cents' worth to the excellent information already given by Carol (138east)...
I've never been inside the Robert Treat Hotel, but, for Newark, the surrounding area isn't too bad. The hotel is directly across the street from the New Jersey Performing Arts Center, a modern, upscale concert hall/ theater that is a major venue for classical, jazz, and pop music concerts, ballet, modern dance, musicals, performing arts and spoken word festivals, and other events. My wife & I frequently attend concerts and recitals there, using the light rail, which stops right at the Performing Arts Center. (The Newark light rail line runs between Newark Penn Station, a 3- or 4-minute ride from the Performing Arts Center, and Newark Broad Street Station.)
That said, given my druthers, I'm much prefer to stay at one of the Jersey City hotels near the Hudson River waterfront (i.e., from north to south: the Courtyard, Westin, Doubletree, Candlewood Suites, and Hyatt Regency). The area is safe and walkable, with terrific views of the Hudson River and the Manhattan skyline. All these hotels are extremely convenient for travel to Manhattan via the PATH train system, and also are reasonably conveniently located for driving to Bayonne/Cape Liberty. (And extremely well situated for anyone who wants to take public transportation to the cruise terminal, via the light rail system to Bayonne followed by a short cab ride to the terminal.)
Incidentally, for what it's worth, I see that reviews of the Robert Treat Hotel on TripAdvisor are somewhat mixed.
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Originally Posted by mlfallis
Ok, I am going the other way from Times Square to Cape Liberty. Any thing I should know differently for using Public Transit? I was also thinking of stopping at Carlo's Bakery in Hoboken. Has anyone done this? How much time might it take?
You would take a cab to JC Penneys on 6th Ave between 32nd and 33rd st. Here are some links and pictures. The accessible Path entrance is to the left of Penneys - a blue and white sign with a 'P'.http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1838036&highlight=penney
I haven't been to Carlo's. It would be a walk from Hoboken Path and folks comment about the lines. Hopefully someone else can comment about going to Carlo's with luggage.
At Hoboken Station you would take the elevator up to the street level. Facing the train tracks you would go to the far left for the light rail, buy a ticket and validate it, and take the Bayonne train getting off at 34th St. Call Bayonne City Yellow Cab 201-339-5000 to arrange a pick up.
I see that the original question was posted a week or so ago, but the following directions may be helpful for others if not for the OP.
Carlo's is about a five-minute walk from the Hoboken PATH/ rail terminal.
mlfallis ~ Take the elevator out of the PATH station as described by Carol, but turn right when you exit the elevator and immediately cross over to the other side of the street, then turn left on the sidewalk and walk two blocks to Hudson Street. Turn right on Hudson and walk one block to Newark Street; turn left, crossing Hudson Street, and walk one block to Washington Street. Turn right on Washington (keeping on the right-hand side of the street); Carlo's is just a few doors up on your right.
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Am considering doing a crossing from New York in either May or Jan. of next year. Of course no one can predict exactly how the weather would be at any one time but just a general idea would be good.... And in Jan. how is the weather normally...obviously, not expecting to sit out side at this time of the year.
Jeffrey ~
Rather than bore you with an account of the January 2014 crossing (So'ton to NYC) of the Queen Elizabeth, I'll share a few videos that should give you an idea of the sort of seas we encountered on the North Atlantic. Enjoy!;)
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Cold weather? Blizzards? Gales? Bring it on!:p:D
Forget the Caribbean. You can't beat sailing out of New York Harbor in January--especially on a transatlantic crossing! Cruising the way it should be.:cool:;):D
https://storify.com/CruiseCurrents/snowy-photos-from-queen-mary-2
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The ferry from the Fairway Market dock only operates on weekends, starting at 11:20 a.m.
Ferry service between the Ikea dock and Manhattan (Pier 11) operates on weekdays and weekends, but doesn't start running (from Ikea) until 11:20 a.m.
It's just over a half mile from the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal to the Fairway Market dock, and just under a mile to the Ikea dock. Both routes are walkable; or take the B-61 bus from the corner of Van Brunt and King Streets.
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Good Lord! There's a whole world out there that I never knew existed. What in the name of heavens are "Cordovan loafers"? For that matter, what are loafers?
J (who told you he was sartorially challenged) :D
Cordovan (a color/colour, which the name is derived from Cordoba in Spain):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordovan_%28color%29
Loafers (& everything you need to know about their history & about wearing them):):
http://wardrobeadvice.com/if-youve-gotta-wear-loafers-follow-these-tips/
I seem to recall, from my distant childhood, that "penny loafers" were so called because you could actually slip a penny (American or pre-decimal British) into the front of the shoe; indeed, some penny loafers (at least in children's sizes) were sold with a penny already inserted in each one of the pair:
http://www.ehow.com/about_5056990_history-penny-loafers.html
It's been years since I've worn loafers of any kind--they were cool during the early '60s:cool:, but they got a bad rap (if you'll pardon the expression) in my book when Michael Jackson wore black ones with white socks:eek:.
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Excellent ideas posted by Salica, especially Lanhydrock House (one of my favorite places in Cornwall) and Buckland Abbey.
To these, I'll just add another of my favorites, Cotehele (pronounced Co-TEEL), one of the best preserved Tudor homes in England, and in a truly glorious setting:
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/cotehele/
http://www.britainexpress.com/counties/cornwall/houses/cotehele.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotehele
There's also Mount Edgecumbe House & Gardens (though, personally, I'd rate this below Lanhydrock and Cotehele):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Edgcumbe_House
http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/mountedgcumbe
http://www.aboutbritain.com/MountEdgcumbeHouse.htm
http://www.cornwall.com/attractions/mount-edgecumbe
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For the coach (bus) from London to Dover, you can often get fantastic bargain fares if you book your tickets in advance via the National Express website:
http://www.nationalexpress.com/home.aspx
Select London (Victoria Coach Station) as your point of origin and Dover (Town Centre) as your destination.
(Note: The ferry terminal is on the opposite side of the harbor from the cruise terminal. The National Express website may give the option of "Dover cruise terminal" as a destination for certain journeys, but these are limited and--if memory serves--are tied in to sailings by ships of the Fred. Olsen Line.)
Frankly, the description of the area around the Pencester Road bus stop in the centre of Dover as a tad "scruffy" could apply to much of the town, but don't let that deter you; the area is perfectly safe, and you shouldn't have any trouble getting a cab from there. The cab drivers are well accustomed to taking passengers from the bus stop to the cruise terminal, & vice versa; a good part of their business comes from this run.
You could also take the train from one of three stations in London--St Pancras, Victoria, or Charing Cross. (Trains from St Pancras are a bit faster than those from the other two stations.) Use the National Rail journey planner to check train times & prices:
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/planjourney/search
The station in Dover is called Dover Priory.
You might also find this web page useful in planning your trip from London to Dover:
http://www.londontoolkit.com/travel/dover_bus_train_stations.htm
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This topic is frequently discussed in the London forum on Tripadvisor, so the OP may find it helpful to do a search (or start a new thread) there as well.
In the meantime... as orchestrapal says, the airbnb website is an excellent source for searching for a London flat. However, given the size of London, it helps to have a good grasp of the city's geography as you as you begin your search, or you could find yourself on the outer fringes.
For what it's worth, I've seen lots of airbnb listings in Islington, a vibrant, upscale residential area just outside central London, with plenty of pubs & restaurants and excellent bus service into the heart of town.
I'm a Bloomsbury sort of chap myself, and recommend a search there. For a more or less modestly priced flat, look at Studio2Let Serviced Apartments in Cartwright Gardens, about a five-minute walk from Russell Square. Lots of reviews on Tripadvisor:
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Great video! It reminded me of our QE January crossing.
These will remind you of the QE's 2014 winter crossing even more. Enjoy!:D
As for the OP's original question re. the QM2 vs the QV (and QE) on a transatlantic voyage:
Yes, I know the QM2 is a proper ocean liner whereas the QV and QE are cruise ships--Fincantieri tin cans at that--masquerading as liners. And yes, the QM2 will take you through the roughest North Atlantic storm with ease (or with as much ease as any ship since the United States, bar the QE2, could), whereas the QV/QE will slow down to a laughable nine knots and wallow in the swell. But... But... a purely subjective opinion: On the whole I prefer the QE (and, by extension, would probably prefer the QV) to QM2.
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Of course, it's all fun. If someone who enjoys the December and January crossings wants to claim "membership" in the Winter Crossing Club - great ! It's all about fun, pleasure, joy.
There actually WAS a group of people who "formed" a group, informally. This was back on the QE2, circa 2006-08. We all kept running into each other, connected here on the Boards, became friends. Someone - I believe the gent from Scotland - took the lead in this; he went to the trouble to have those cool WCC pins made, as well as some fabulous QE2 cufflinks - treasures of mine to this day !
Our friend from Scotland; a couple of guys from LA; folks from SF, Pennsylvania, Maine, Kentucky, Ohio, NJ, NY, Minnesota, etc. - a sensational group.
We'd usually meet in QE2's Chart Room on Sailing Day after dinner, around 10PM. I remember on the occasion of the January 2006 meeting we all overran The Chart Room, there were so many of us !
There was always a Cabin Cavalcade, as we called it. Never quite to be replicated now as ships will likely never again have such an enormous multitude of unique cabins ala QE2.
May the spirit of the QE2 WCC live on forever !!!
Tom ~ Thanks for sharing your memories of the wonderful 2006 winter crossing on QE2. A grand & memorable crossing indeed!
There were several well-known veterans of the 2006 QE2 Winter Crossing Club on board the Queen Elizabeth's January 2014 winter crossing So'ton to New York City.:)
For those nostalgic for the WCC's Cavalcade of Cabins and the sight of old shipmates on QE2, here's a video shot during the 2008 winter crossing:
Apparently a similar cavalcade, albeit with a much smaller contingent of WCC members, was conducted during the Queen Elizabeth's January 2011 winter crossing:
As for storms and rough seas on a winter crossing--well, that's a great part of the appeal for hardened WCC members!:)
Cheers!
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Obvious friend of Onslow!
But at least Onslow made an effort to adhere to Cunard's standards on formal night.;):D
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The officers and crew are the real deal.
The captain, uncredited, is John Burton-Hall. The cruise director is Lindsay Frost.
However, the officer who speaks to Hyacinth by phone from the bridge as the ship is leaving Southampton, and who later escorts Daisy and Onslow on a brief tour around the ship, is in fact an actor, Michael Cochrane.
While jogging through the Queen's Room, Hyacinth and Richard bump into the photographer Patrick Lichfield (aka Lord Lichfield), first cousin once removed of Queen Elizabeth.
I might be wrong, but I strongly suspect that the two cabins occupied by Daisy and Onslow and by Hyacinth and Richard, respectively, are studio sets. The bridge, the public rooms, and the outer decks are of course the real thing.
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Can you take luggage on light rail from Airport to inner harbor?
Yes, you can... but--potentially a big "but," depending on the amount and weight of your luggage--you have to haul your bags up several steep steps as you board the train. (The steps are on the train itself, going up to the aisle and the seats.)
My wife & I took the light rail for this route several years ago, and it was a bit of a struggle getting on & off the train with luggage. Once on board, we were fine; and the train wasn't crowded. When we reached our destination (near Camden Yards), a couple of good samaritan tourists gave us a hand getting our bags off the train.
(By contrast, it's a breeze to handle your luggage getting on and off the light rail trains operated by NJ Transit in Hoboken-Jersey City-Bayonne and frequently recommended in the East Coast board as a cheap & easy means of public transport to Cape Liberty. Those low-rise trains run at platform level.)
Also, be aware that the Baltimore light rail trains don't stop at the Inner Harbor, but several blocks from it. Get off at the Camden Yards stop, cross and walk due east along West Conway Street.
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So you think the Path is a better option than the ferry? Wouldn't the ferry get me closer to the pier, eliminating a more expensive taxi ride? I know the cost on Path would only be $2.50 versus $11.50 light rail/ferry combo cost, but if I use their free buses after arrival I can get to just 2 blocks away from the pier which I should be able to handle with luggage. I'm close to the Grove St. Path station which I could take direct to 33rd St. Thanks for your help.
We've done both (PATH; Light Rail & ferry combination). Personally, we prefer the Light Rail & ferry combination (traveling from Hoboken).
But if you're close to the Grove Street station, you might as well just take the PATH train all the way to 33rd St. and catch a cab from there. Otherwise, you'll be using four different forms of transportation (PATH, Light Rail, ferry, shuttle bus), with interchanges between each.
If I recall correctly, you will need to use a combination of escalator and stairs to get down to the platform at the Grove St. PATH station. There's a small elevator to street level at the 33rd St. station.
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We will be in London for 8 nights in July and we were thinking about taking 1 or 2 day trips, I have been looking at Brighton and Canterbury, but are open to any suggestions.
I have been looking at train v coach travel, train from London to Canterbury is 67.20 pounds return for the 2 of us, with off peak day tickets, compared to 10 pounds return by coach. The train trip is 56m and the coach 1hr50, which isn't a problem with us. Have I got something wrong or is train travel quite expensive in the UK.
All suggestions welcome :-)
thanks Deb
Deb ~
Yes, train travel can be quite expensive IF you purchase your tickets on the day of travel.
However, you can save a considerable amount by purchasing tickets in advance, online. The only drawback to the cheaper Advance tickets is that you have to select (in advance) the specific train departure time, and be sure that you can make that train. If you miss that train for that some reason, you can't use your Advance fare ticket on a later train.
Just a couple of examples of possible savings:
The standard "Off Peak" return (round-trip) fare between London and Cambridge is £23.70 per person. However, for certain train times, you can buy two single (one-way) Advance tickets for £6.00 each--a savings of almost 50 percent off the standard Off Peak fare.
The standard "Off Peak" fare between London and Bath is £31.50 each way, or a total of £63.00 per person. The Advance fare on certain trains can be as low as £15 each way--a savings of more than half off the standard Off Peak fare.
Play around with the trip planner function at the National Rail website to find the lowest possible fares:
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/planjourney/search
A couple of caveats:
"Advance" fare tickets don't go on sale until a certain time (45 days, IIRC) before the travel date. If that's the case for a particular journey you'd like to make, just do a "dummy" booking by putting in another date--say, three weeks from now--to see what the Advance fare will probably be.
Also, you will have to collect the physical tickets at the station before your journey. To do so, you will need the credit card that you used for your online booking. You can retrieve the tickets from an automated machine or from an agent at any ticket window at the station.
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In my opinion, Captain Wells has a great personality that readily comes across during the noon report. He's confident, but not cocky. He exudes interest and enthusiasm. He is just just a pleasure, both over the loud-speaker and out and about on the ship.
Indeed!
And what other master mariner would take the time to tell you everything you ever wanted to know about the Porcupine Abyssal Plain?
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And, then, of course there are Captain Wells' eyebrows : ) : ) : )
And here they are! :) ~
Moreover, this clip is proof that "all the nice girls love a sailor" -- and no sailor more so than Captain Wells.:D
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FYI...the Port Imperial garage costs $15 per day...and the parking lot $13. You're staying past the 2 am nightly cutoff for discounted rates.
There you go--a lesson for the OP: The words free and parking are almost never used in the same sentence in this area. And (second lesson)... parking prices only go up, not down. Without warning.:eek::D
(Personally, I don't park in any of these places--because, whenever I can help it, I don't drive in New York or New Jersey, but get around by public transportation. Of course, that means I have to travel light.:))
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The words free parking and New York City are never used together in the same sentence!;)
With a car, the Hilton Garden Inn Secaucus/Meadowlands might be the OP's best bet.
And parking at the Port Imperial parking garage for $11 is a genuine bargain, compared to the cost of parking at the pier--or anywhere in Manhattan, for that matter.
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PostCaptain - bravo & kudo for the excellent details on the PATH & LR Stations @ Hoboken.
For OP & others sailing in the future "stumbling on this post" - can you give a rough/recent estimate of the cab/taxi/car service fare between the Bayonne LR Station and Cape Liberty - or, should they call them directly for fare info?
By the car or shuttle pricing based on per person/luggage rules?
I don't recall the exact fare for the taxi, but I think it's in the neighborhood of $8 to $12 (per car, not per passenger), plus tip. When we last did it, there was no extra charge for luggage.
It's the shortest leg of the entire journey, distance-wise--about two miles--but the most expensive.
The entrance to the Cape Liberty port facility (formerly the Military Ocean Terminal at Bayonne) is directly across the road (route 440) from the Light Rail station (34th St, Bayonne), so it's a straight shot from the station to the cruise terminal. The driver can't get lost, but there are likely to be backups. Also, unlike the case with many other cruise terminals, there is no pedestrian access.
I believe that when Royal Caribbean/Celebrity first sailed out of Bayonne, circa 2004, they ran a free shuttle bus between the Light Rail station and the cruise terminal. However, that service only lasted a year or two before it was withdrawn.
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cruisintwinsmom ~
Excellent advice posted here by the previous contributors. I'll just add my two cents' worth.
I ride the PATH train and NJ Transit Light Rail system frequently, and my wife & I have done the trip to Bayonne, with luggage, on several occasions, without any problems. The cost of the PATH/ Light Rail/ Bayonne taxi combination is significantly less than the cost of a car service from Manhattan.
Just a few details about transferring from the PATH train to the Light Rail at Hoboken:
The Hoboken PATH station is underground. There are several different exits by stairways up to ground level, but with luggage, you might want to use the elevator. When you exit the PATH train, walk forward, go through the turnstiles, and immediately turn left; you'll see the elevator just past the ticket machines.
Exit the elevator at ground level and turn left. Walk into the Hoboken train terminal (right in front of you at this point), then continue along the main concourse to the far end of the station, just past track 18. (You should see signs for the NJ Transit Light Rail along the way.)
Ticket machines for the Light Rail are located near the entrance to the Light Rail platforms. The machines take cash as well as debit or credit cards. Before going onto the platform, validate your ticket by sticking it into the little orange machine at the platform entrance and then removing it.
Enjoy the ride!
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Ok, Royal Caribbean is building or has built a new pier for all of us to use.
Is it built yet? Or are they in the process?
See below (re. bribes, kickbacks, & lawsuits).
And it sounds like Bayonne N.J. is also developing the whole area near the pier?
Some day they could have hotels, condos , businesses, shops, golf course, parks with walkways along the waterfront.
This is already the case along the New Jersey riverfront from Jersey City through Hoboken up to Weehawken:
http://hudsonriverwaterfront.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River_Waterfront_Walkway
But I'm not sure what progress is being made on the Bayonne section of the walkway. There are, however, two major golf courses abutting the waterfront. You can see this one from the upper decks of the ship at the dock:
http://www.bayonnegolfclub.com/
The Barclays, an annual tournament on the PGA calendar, has been held twice at this one:
Did they already pick a contractor or is this all in talking stages only so far.
I'm not sure. It takes time for the bribes and kickbacks to be arranged and for the lawsuits to be settled.:D
It is hard to find any news about
Royal Caribbean pier . Just hope I am alive to see it all in the end. LOL
It depends on your life expectancy!:D I'm not holding my breath.:eek:
When the project was announced (nearly a year ago), they projected a completion date of October 2014:
http://www.marinelink.com/news/terminal-bayonne-cruise356935.aspx
If you believe that, I've got a nice old bridge to sell you.;)
In any case, RCCL has changed its mind about basing the Quantum at Bayonne (aka Cape Liberty):
http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ssf/2014/04/bayonne_port_loses_big_ship.html
Question for uk peoples about tie knots on formal night
in Cunard Line
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The Windsor knot is commonly attributed to the Duke of Windsor, although apparently there is some evidence that it was invented by his father, George V.
Nonetheless... the Duke and his lovely bride were quite the fashionplates, and set a number of trends on their frequent transatlantic voyages.
Here are some sterling examples of the Duke's fashion sense. Let these pictures be your guide, and you'll never go wrong in selecting the right wardrobe for any occasion on board or ashore:
Why not wear white tie and tails on formal night?:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/The_Duke_of_Windsor_%281970%29.jpg
Don't forget to visit Fido at the ship's kennels:
http://lukehoney.*******.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/23/dukeofwindsor.jpg
Always be prepared to fill in for the captain:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ddCG87bFBBk/ThwwHJnX3uI/AAAAAAAAAEs/VWX4vnASUsM/s1600/DUKE-OF-WINDSOR4.jpg
A pocket handkerchief and a hand in one pocket will instantly let everyone the you're a true gentleman:
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/c2/d2/b4/c2d2b435689a933a084e0d26e07e6777.jpg
A broad-brimmed hat and a pipe are the perfect accessories and add a touch of class:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/a2cde54fa5ea3968e1c4b5ad106c8fa9/tumblr_mlnrp7i9sX1qfjc32o4_400.jpg
Have you signed up for a golf lesson?:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ilZnkjoaWvs/UK31GjZbCmI/AAAAAAAAF6A/Tyd9XpUvruQ/s640/Duke+Of+Windsor.jpg
Heads will turn whenever you enter the Queen's Grill:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Uv7SLO6o4q0/UAuGFHZtEsI/AAAAAAAACo8/3aFDaveM2y0/s1600/DukeOfWindsor2.jpg
Visiting the ship's library? Here's the perfect attire:
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/09/12/1226472/835091-duke-of-windsor.jpg
Don't feel like dressing for dinner? Wear whatever makes you feel comfortable, and order a meal from room service:
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/39/e1/12/39e112914cdff64116f183f129159b9f.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0sp174FLJ1qa2j8co1_500.jpg
Going to the pool or the spa dressed like this? Sail on NCL:
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/41/01/50/410150175d47e5bea39fe62704d4841c.jpg
Invited to dine at the captain's table? Present yourself thus:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc47mfMr6y1rf1jvro1_1280.jpg
Passengers should resist the urge to ring the ship's bell:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2001/2209255463_cc234249da_o.jpg
Let other passengers think that you're the commodore:
http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/37/3729/LJQAF00Z/posters/prince-edward-duke-of-windsor-early-1940s.jpg
Don't forget to choose your socks carefully to match the rest of your outfit. And invite other passengers to sit with you in the Queen's Room:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DDEWSZipceI/UQKEzKTjHEI/AAAAAAAAEwA/n1_mECDrrvE/s1600/dukeofwindsor.jpg
If you want to travel incognito, don't forget the sunglasses:
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/75/16/cf/7516cf8890a8bc4f9b9accde318735b7.jpg
There are plenty of seats in the lounges on a Cunard ship, but always allow other guests to sit where they want:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BBFDMPS0HgU/TlFqcKGKGXI/AAAAAAAAEl4/KYcPAbrH3tc/s1600/duke-and-duchess-of-windsor-bahamas.jpg
Dressed for a shore excursion:
http://s1.postimg.org/iecj5hoyy/Style_Icon_Duke_of_Windsor_dandy_style_edward_izandrew_www_izandrew_blogspot_com_1.jpg
Lifeboat drill is mandatory. But always remember those who didn't make it:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02111/dukeWindsorBlackBa_2111880i.jpg
How to tie a bow-tie:
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-CN000013229.jpg?size=67&uid=78a98e48-b7d1-4355-87f1-f685b61d75c6
And finally... Pay no attention to those who tell you to travel light. Pack all your clothes in a steamer trunk. Remember, a well-rounded wardrobe will see you right in any situation:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uVWN46xUzeg/Tf87xkwlLUI/AAAAAAAADTU/ch2PMKvjEXA/s1600/windsorsocietyissue17_26-27.jpg