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13 hours ago, blcruising said:

He's been deep discounting last minute cruises for years

In CEO speak, that's "aspirational." You can say that your "strategy" is not to be the deepest discounter, but if that's not actually the result . . . oh, well!

I was tempted by those $399 transatlantics.  But that was at peak hysteria, so I held off. And I think they got cancelled anyway, but I'm not sure.

On 5/7/2020 at 3:47 PM, Jobeth66 said:

 

And that's why I use my AmEx for purchases like this.  🙂

Same here. That's why I've carried Amex for so many years. When things go wrong, they cover you. 

Amex took care of this chargeback in 1 call and posted the credit in the same billing cycle.

6 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

Doesn't that get you crazy mad when you know that's an impossibility?

It definitely drops my confidence in NCL to zero. They're still showing a 4/12 departure from New York, when the NY Cruise Terminal is officially closed. Not a word on the NCL website.

Photo from my roof of USNS Comfort arriving at Manhattan Cruise Terminal

Just now, Travelling2Some said:

This is also the kind of behavior that will have me choosing a refund instead of taking FCC.

Agreed. They're being so opaque about their intentions that it's impossible to trust them.

This is the kind of operational risk that makes a person very reluctant to cruise right now. And makes one wish that NCL would promptly cancel cruises that involve that kind of risk.

15 minutes ago, Trimone said:

I don’t know what news you’re watching in the USA

I'm looking at NCL.com, where they're still selling cruises leaving NYC just 15 days from now. I can't imagine anybody's buying those, but if they try, I guess nobody will stop them.

4 hours ago, GlamorousGirl said:

I didn’t see many sick people when we were there either. NY has a huge population.

Relative to our population, the incidence of Covid or any other disease is very small. In the last week you'd see a large proportion of people with masks, but few people are outside, most are staying home.

23 minutes ago, jennmaybe said:

Then why the heck haven’t they canceled our April 22nd cruise out of NYC yet?

Exactly. And why are they continuing to sell those cruises on their website?

The federal government has announced that anyone who lives in or visits New York City should presume to be exposed to covid and should self-quarantine for 14 days if they travel anywhere else.

NCL says that they’ll deny boarding to people exposed to covid.

Can any cruise lines embark passengers in New York City during the next month? NCL has 6 cruises departing from NYC in April.

I'm more concerned about operational risk than onboard experience or even infection risk. There's an increasing chance of getting stranded in a foreign port, barred from re-entry, quarantined, unable to get flights back, etc.

Most of that is beyond NCLs control, but it still makes a cruise too likely to become an expensive and massive pain in the neck for everyone.

I can't imagine why NCL would even attempt sailing for the next few months. 

1 minute ago, julig22 said:

Aren't you happy you are getting a refund and not FCC? 

If the cruise line cancels, they're required by law to give a refund. They're not doing you a favor, it's an absolute obligation.

7 hours ago, mjkacmom said:

Hmm, I wonder why it will take so long, it’s not like there is disaster going on in our world right now, I mean, they must be used to cancelling all of their cruises and refunding tens of thousands of customers at once.

Amazon does it every day. Slow-walking refunds is a sleazy business practice. NCL should know better.

It's all speculation. 

OTOH, if NCL could make the cancellation FCCs they're offering convertible to stock, it would at least be an interesting offer. It could help preserve their cash position and it would be fungible for customers.

I have no idea whether that's legal or practical. Probably neither.

1 hour ago, Cruise4life44 said:

Do the right thing, NCL.

And stop foot-dragging. Everyone knows what NCL has to do, but they're putting a squeeze on paying customers by delaying so long. 

I cruised on SS Norway in '98 I think. Beautiful, classy ship.

Ptroxx, 9 out of 10 posters now agree that you're wrong.

Cruise travel IS international travel, even if no airline is involved. 

Stop embarassing yourself.

12 minutes ago, Ptroxx said:

  This is an airlines restriction not a NCL cruise line issue.   

You're simply wrong. Now mind your own business.

7 minutes ago, blcruising said:

Just sit tight for the cancellation from NCL which is forthcoming,

I think you're probably right. 

6 hours ago, krittykat said:

Anyone concerned about the latest travel warning?

I'm trying to understand how it impacts the tickets I hold for an NCL cruise 30 days from today. Is it tantamount to cancellation by the cruise line? Frankly, that would be much simpler than this protracted uncertainty.

5 hours ago, Ptroxx said:

This really has nothing to do with NCL?   Just sayin.  

If you're currently holding NCL tickets for next month it has everything to do with NCL. And no, that cruise hasn't been cancelled yet.

5 minutes ago, Love my butler said:

It's not an order, it is an advisory

But but I'm wondering if it has any binding impact on travel providers. Insurance issues or maritime law limitations, etc. 

2 hours ago, Zippeedee said:

The 30 day itinerary change was part of the letter from Harry Sommer (the one that ended with the comment that he was still taking his family on a cruise in Europe in May).

Thanks! I knew I saw that somewhere.

I wonder if Harry is still planning on that cruise.

What a mess! Now they're being denied debarkation in Honolulu. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/03/19/coronavirus-cruise-ships-ports-disembarking/2873149001/

https://hidot.hawaii.gov/blog/2020/03/18/maasdam-and-norwegian-jewel-cruise-ships-to-refuel-and-restock-in-honolulu/

Does anybody know what their original debarkation date was? I thought it was last Saturday, March 14.