Kitalion

Can you put a proper themed tiki bar on more ships?

Thank you for your kind words. I happened to find out today that my bestie has stepped down in nicotine as part of her cessation plan she is on. I wasn’t aware this was part of the plan (or possible) so I learned something new. She actually said that after a couple of days now at this lower level she feels pyscholigcally ready to set a date to put down the vape entirely. I’ve never heard her talk like that so I’m excited. She is bemused that I’ve taken on the whole vaping crusade on her behalf but she actually said that by the time of our next cruise she may be completely off vaping too. I’m very excited. We are on another quantum class ship unfortunately where the deck 5 is semi enclosed so not an option on the upcoming one - unlessshe finds it filled only with other vapers or she has it to herself. But hopefully she is completely done with it by then - that would be truely amazing if so. The only downside is that the people on this thread may not get the satisfaction of hearing about us getting dumped off the ship ha ha. I do truely hope I don’t ever have to worry about this issue again except for keeping her away from cigarette smoke in general as it makes her feel nauseous now (ironic I know - and particularly since as a non smoker I have spent untold hours with her in smoking venues and areas over our 25 yr friendship - breathing second hand smoke and not complaining about it ha ha the things you do for friendship). I am quietly confident but if she does need to go back to the vape I will continue to be supportive because smoking tobacco is not where I want to see her ever again end up. 🙂

Oh I have another question for you that is neither about the topic of this thread - but whilst I have your attention wonder if you have any info on the following: ever since I watched the costa Concordia documentary about the sinking and tragedy I have wondered about those life boats and the angle should the ship list to one side like the Concordia. Specifically in the doco they said one problem in getting people off was the angle of the ship relative to the overhang of the lifeboats preventing some of the life boats from lowering. Im wondering: On the RCI boats do they have a mechanism to overcome this such as an arm or other design feature that extends it further to prevent that and if so if the ship loses power will it still work?

Thank you so much for your comprehensive and clear explanation that is so helpful and makes so much sense. Thanks again!!

Omg I was just thinking when is a battery/electrical expert going to join this thread and answer that battery question. I found this very informative thanks! I have two questions: 1. Are the vapes that are rechargeable using lithium batteries and therefore what you said above still applicable? 2. Not about vapes but I suspect the answer is electrical based - Do you I know why they dont allow hand held clothes steamers on cruises? Is it just a grab to make money by the cruise line so your forced to send your clothes out and pay for them to iron them or is that device somehow risky or hazardous? Thanks in advance

Ha ha I swear no bribes (tips) took place but I guess you’re right - if we needed to grease the wheels so to speak a tip could be the answer. Attendant: ah Mam, there is no vaping in the cabins and I’m going to have to report you. Me: I think this 50 dollars is for you I found it on the floor at your feet. Attendant: What vape? I dont see any vape.

You’re betting against me because you don’t like your impression of me in my first post? Have I understood that correctly? If so, Im saddened to hear that Davekathy. However the fact remains If it’s not being enforced then it really seems kind of meaningless either way but I’m invested now in seeing this through. I have a feeling that Royal will review their stance in our favour. Stay tuned for the next exciting chapter.

It really is what I said In the post. It’s not being enforced from my experience. There are many reasons why I think this may be but it was my experience. It’s happening anyway - I’m the only one transparent enough to say it. If that makes me a bad person well so be it. Im glad my best friend who has smoked for 40 years is longer smoking. She considers herself a non smoker now. The rule needs to be challenged. If we lose then we lose - we are adults we will take the consequences. And like I said I’m quite happy to report honestly on what happens whether that be a written response from royal or any other actions onboard against us.

Well it’s not the whole story. E-cigs were banned initially because of safety concerns but the strategy to support a smoke free australia had to include something to encourage those already smoking to make the move away. The ability for doctors to prescribe vapes now exists as part of that first move - so it came after the e-cig ban. The standard for the TGA to approve vapes is in the works so the pharmaceutical devices currently available can be assessed and approved. Despite the personal opinion of some others they are still not the dodgy imported devices that the large amount of people in Australia Aquire from suppliers breaking the law. the powers of our border control are also to be heightened to seize devices that either dont meet the standard or are being imported by those without the proper supplier credentials to stop these devices getting into the hands of children. Limiting this is critical to stop a new generation being addicted to nicotine and concerns that in the future they may convert to tobacco smoking.Having restricted vapes is critical to the smoke free strategy in Australia. It is entirely irrelevant that patches and gum exist - doctors job is to assess their client needs and the therapy appropriate based on their client assessment and their scientific knowledge of the efficacy and safety of products that are available for them to prescribe. to say in Australia the only way you can get a vape is factually incorrect - they are illegally supplied everywhere. Prescription is the only legal way but in practice if you want one its just easier to go buy one from numerous retailers that sell them since its the supply not the purchase that is illegal. The situation in Australia is outlined in the recent consultation papers collated by Smoke free Australia - I didn’t just make it up - just like the “prescription”.

If u didn’t understand the point of it - why are u still following along 9 pages later? The post is still there - u can re-read it for yourself.

Thank you Davekathy. 9 pages of commentary later we have come full circle. Royal don’t care to enforce it - for whatever reason. They could if they wanted to but they dont. And that was the point of my very first post.

Well I’m just being honest here = either Royal will grant the formal permission we have requested and have it treated as any other legally prescribed medication and let her take it with dignity away from second hand smoke OR she is still going to do it in the cabin anyway and take her chances with being kicked off. Everything in life has a consequence I guess. Sorry if that infuriates people it’s just how it is.

I also grew up with second hand smoke. Which is why I support vaping and especially the medical vapes prescribed in Australia. It isn’t smoking.

I’ve just noticed in ur signature block that you’re on Serenade of the Seas for the first leg - I’ll be sure to invite you to the cloud chasing party in our cabin!!! (I couldn’t resist - its in my Australian DNA to “take the piss”. Look it up if you don’t understand that slang). We are well on the way to getting it confirmed in writing that my dear travel companion can use her medically prescribed vape in the cabin. Happy sailing!!

In Australia medical vapes (these are not not any old vape - I stress) are prescribed by DOCTORS to patients for smoking cessation. Under the law in Australia. It’s legal and is part Austalias commitment to becoming a smoke free (tobacco) country. These vapes are medical devices and can only be acquired on prescription from a PHARMACIST! (I point out that this is nothing like marijuna dispensaries - so don’t even bring it up). The attitude seems to be in this forum that if it doesn’t happen in the USA and if its not advertised on US television then it can’t be right or it just couldn’t be possible. OMG there is a world outside of the US. In Australia, medical doctors also prescribe rehabilitating heroin addicts under their care MEthODONE on prescription dispensed by a PHARMACIST. We don’t tell rehabilitating heroin addicts to go take their medication in a room full of people shooting up heroin - why should we tell people with medically prescribed vapes who are actively trying to cease smoking tobacco to use their medical vapes in a room full of smokers?????