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A few comments in response:

1. If it brings the above poster any sense of relief, I wore the mock turtleneck with sports coat in the evening to attend the entertainment events in the theater, not to dine in the Britannia restaurant.  

2. I think wearing a mock turtleneck in the summer months inappropriate in any setting regarding of the air conditioning. It is winter clothing.

3. Yes, I was expressing my opinion. That seems to be the purpose of this forum.

4. I do not wear dirty or soiled clothing. 

5. If someone with Cunard had asked me to change my clothing, I would have done so without complaint. And if others would not have noticed anything amiss about my dress, then I certainly did not diminish the evening for anyone who thought my dress did not literally comply with any Cunard requirement that men wear a collared shirt. 

6. As evidenced by the measured tenor of this response, I try to be considerate of others.

I just completed the westbound TA crossing on QM2. I found it not my "cup of tea," but I do not blame Cunard. It is an iconic trip, and I checked it off my list. The experience just confirmed that I do not like cruising nearly as much as most who contribute to the forums on this website, and unless you love cruising or just want to eat and drink constantly for seven nights, this is not the trip for you. I will also note that I boarded the ship tired because I had just spent two weeks in Europe and that someone was not able to join me so I made the trip as a solo traveler and not surprisingly found the crossing to be a "couples" event.

I do have some critical comments to offer that are hopefully constructive: 

1. Unlike many of you who do TA crossings, I found relatively little to do during the day except eat and drink, which I did not want to do too much of, especially during the holiday season. And in part for that reason, I hated the 25-hour days on the westbound crossing. I found two of the lecturers excellent. I should have taken the bridge lessons offered. But line dancing, ballroom dance classes, bingo, and trivia do not appeal to me. I would have welcomed classes or events featured on cooking, wine, and certain types of whiskey.

2. I did eat at night in King's Court. I found the selections less attractive than at lunch, which is to be expected because more people eat there for lunch than for dinner. But I found the meat and fish selections substandard--the beef was tough and the fish was not tasty and once tasted off. I love smoked salmon, which is featured at every meal. You can make a tremendous salad there. And it sounds so minor, but the scrambled-eggs choices in the morning are perfectly done. 

3. I found some of the sandwiches at afternoon tea to be dry and mainly bread. 

4. The evening entertainment was hit-and-miss.

5. Is it necessary to sign a statement after every drink? Why not just show the card and get the drink? I would rather Cunard charge a tad more for the drinks than make you sign a statement so the server can get a tip. 

6. Is it really necessary in the library to keep the books in locked selves? 

For whatever it is worth, I just completed a TA crossing. On the "smart attire" nights, I wore several times a light mock turtleneck with sports coat and dress pants. One, my dress looked just as nice as that of anyone wearing a collared shirt. Two, my dress was never questioned. Three, others wore a turtleneck. Four, because you can wear a mock turtleneck repeatedly, you save money and packing space by bringing it rather than a number of collared shirts. An option for men to consider on Cunard in cool-weather months.

Jack, I would be remiss if I failed to respond to your gracious post. I am originally from New Orleans, lived in Lafayette for 40 years, and moved to Mandeville almost three years ago. I actually live five minutes from Pontchartrain but have never eaten there. Because of a health issue to someone else, I will actually be making this trip solo and have some reservations, but given your kind response, I am hoping this will be the first of many TA crossings.

Is the Golden Lion Pub open for dinner at night?

Since I started this thread, which has veered in directions I was not anticipating, I guess I can comment. 

These days how many are actually working in an office? 

I will confess that when I was working over the last 10 years, I had reached the point where I preferred  not wearing a coat and tie--unless I was seeing clients or venturing outside the office for professional reasons.

However, I do think that there is some connection between how we dress and how we act, and that the lowering of dress expectations has adversely and sadly affected manners and common courtesy.  

Finally, though some of you obviously "like" to dress up in the evening more than I do, I will say that if one is going to do it, one should do it the right way, which for me means only black or cordovan shoes--never brown--with a navy suit. That should kick off a new thread.

Chryso, thank you for your edited response. It certainly enhances the anticipation of sailing on Cunard and joining for six days those who sail on it.

Victoria2 is right. My two specific questions regarding dress jeans and a collared sweater were addressed. My thanks to all who contributed, and please keep debating the dress code. 

When I booked the Transatlantic crossing, I largely knew what I was signing up for. As a result of your responses, I will bring a sports jacket. Now I still think a nice turtleneck and sports coat is more dressy than a dress shirt and a sports coat, but I will bring a few dress shirts and keep the cleaners on the ship busy.  

My purpose in posting was not to challenge the rules but to understand them. I am actually going to be in Europe for two weeks before the crossing with one carry-on suitcase. I will shipping to Southampton the dress clothes and shoes for the crossing but will be using a second carry-on suitcase to keep the expense down.

And to avoid confusing anyone further, I believe Victoria is right about the men wearing chinos in the photograph I saw.

Victoria2, thanks again. I will assume that collared shirt is a hard rule and pack accordingly, which means also a sports jacket because in my view a collared shirt without more is not dressy enough and in the winter is not warm enough.

And what about a nice turtleneck sweater and sports coat? 

Victoria2, exactly.

The Cunard website says little--"dress shirt and trousers" with the aspirational statement that the dress should be appropriate to a "stylish restaurant" or theater on a special evening. 

I just saw a photo, probably from Cunard, of two couples dressed in smart attire. The two men were wearing a collared shirt and a sports coat, but their trousers looked denim. 

I also just read a travel agency website addressing evening attire on Cunard--it talked about slacks and a sweater or a collared shirt and sports coat.

Look, this is my first Cunard experience, and I knew before signing up that Cunard was a formal cruise line. I am not debating what the dress code should be--again I think a collared sweater is more dressy than a collared shirt without a sports coat. Whatever the rules are, I will comply with. But I have limited luggage space for evening clothing. To those who have been on winter Cunard sailings, I am just trying to find out whether the four-word website statement of "dress shirt and trousers" is literally the rule or whether it is somewhat a guide and aspirational.

I thank everyone who took the time to respond. And it appears it was fortunate that I asked. But can I ask for some clarity with the responses. And yes, I am talking about evening dress.

I asked about very nice dress jeans and about a collared sweater worn without a collared shirt. I take it that the jeans would be inappropriate. I can't say I am surprised.

But if people are saying that a collared sweater is inappropriate, that does surprise me because I think that as dressy as a collared shirt.

If anyone cares to respond, are you saying both items would not meet the dress code? And if one does and one doesn't, can you identify which one would pass and which one would not? Thanks again. 

If it matters, I will be on a Transatlantic winter crossing on the QM2. My understanding is that a sports coat is not required. On the smart attire nights, is there anything wrong with a man wearing a nice pair of jeans or denim pants (rather than dress trousers) and a collared pullover sweater not worn with a collared shirt underneath?

Friends, thank you for the responses. I did call Cunard and was told that another passenger can be added if done at least 14 days before the sailing. I did not ask any specific questions regarding pricing. In my case, my sailing is in December, and at the moment, it is still not clear whether someone will be able to join me. I did send an email to my travel agent to begin a dialogue with her regarding option.

I am currently booked as a solo traveler in a balcony cabin on a future T/A crossing. I believe my final-payment deadline is August 15 (four months before the sailing). Other than paying a higher fare, is there any difficulty in adding before final payment a second passenger to the cabin I booked? What about after the final payment? I would think Cunard would welcome the addition because it means a higher fare and more spending on board.

Many thanks to all above who took the time to respond. You answered my questions about the two December crossings.

If anyone has any information about the early January eastbound crossing, I would certainly welcome it. It does seem a tad different--one night longer, and right after the holidays when the desire to eat well and drink should be sated. I am thinking this is a more sedate trip than the December crossings with many Brits returning home after time in the US.

Cunard always offers two crossings in December and then an eastbound crossing in early January after New Year's Day. The January crossing is eight nights instead of seven. I know the QM2 is decorated for Christmas on the December crossings. And I would imagine the Atlantic could be more lively in the winter.

My questions:

1. If you have taken a TA crossing in December would you recommend it? How is it different from TA crossings at other times of the year (other than what I stated above)? 

2. What is the nationality mix and passenger composition like in December on the eastbound and then westbound crossings, and then on the eastbound crossing right after New Year's Day?