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What should be done is if a person does not get a vaccination and then comes down with the virus then the person should have to pay for any care out of pocket and insurance should not pay for medial costs.  

Will get ours ASAP so I can make travel arrangements again.  

Why pick on cruises??????

What about air travel?  More people in smaller space.

What6 about sports events???  More people smaller space.

What about theater?   More people in a smaller space. 

What make cruising so special about the spread of diseases?  

14 minutes ago, mnocket said:

 

You seem to have more knowledge than me on vaccines.  Do you agree or disagree that too much faith is being put in an eventual vaccine as a silver bullet solution?  As you point out, there has never been a commercially available human vaccine against a coronavirus, yet again and again I hear people saying "I won't return to [fill in the blank] until a vaccine is available.  Such statements indicate a belief that 1) the availability of a vaccine is a certainty, and 2) the widespread availability of a vaccine means the high risk group is safe from COVID.  Am I mistaken?  Is there a high probability that a vaccine going to be THE solution to COVID?

I don't agree with you.  Yes there will be a vaccine.  There are many in trails now.  We almost eliminated Polio my vaccine.  Except for the idiot anti vaccine people we would almost eliminate measles.  

The only thing that will slow down a vaccine are governments. 

Since cruise lines did not spread the virus as much as  air travel did, why not eliminate air travel or at least make sure that no one is seated closer than six feet.  Also, stop serving and food or drinks.  Make sure all passengers are not sick of have any temperature above 100.  

What about sports?  Need to reduce that crowds at spotting events to about 10% of current.  Also no food or drink sales.

What about movie and live theater?   Stop it all?? 

I guess even when that is over and people vaccinated we should all were maskd all the time. 

And no more sex. 

People are in panic mode.  Studies are showing that the death rate could be much lower then common flu. 

We are going to find out that this lockdown caused more problems then with no lockdown.

The study suggests that up to 85 times more people had the virus then reported.  

All this bull about cruise lines need to change could be ridicules and just shows peoples panic instinct.  That is no 5eal thought process, just buy all the toilet paper.  

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-17/coronavirus-antibodies-study-santa-clara-county

So, should airlines only allow 12 passengers per flight? 

Would you pay 200% more for all these safety requirements people want when there is no pandemic??????

People will not want to pay the cost once this is over.

It is like the stupid people that don't want to pay rent and the landlord go broke instead. 

I don't think the ESAs should be allowed on any airline, cruise or rail system.  Cannot tell fake from real.  My neighbor got a certificate online so she can take her dog on airlines.  Yet it is NOT a ESA in reality.  Because a piece of paper gotten online sys it is she talks on airlines.

Best Europe cruises we have had have been on AZAMERA.  Small ships 900 or so passengers and go into ports the larger ships do not.  Viking would also be a choice for the same reason. 

9 hours ago, philw1776 said:

Strongly recommend having the ship do your laundry.  You're likely spending $10,000 for a vacation, so spending a couple tens of $ to save precious vacation time and relax completely is worth it.  Only thing I used the "zipline" in my Viking shower for was drying my wet jacket that got rained on.

I agree.  That and people that want to iron cloths.  

41 minutes ago, NewOrleansLady71 said:

Water shuttle, a third party tender taking us from the ship to the pier. That’s where the accident occurred. 

So, how is the cruise line responsible???  You chose to take a third party shuttle.  Again, if would lost a foot it might be worth getting a lawyer if it is a few thousand in med bills It will cost more for a lawyer.  

There are some ports where the cruise line must use local shuttles you need to know this was case.  In which case sue the local governmnet that forces there use. 

Keep in mind if you sue that only the medical expense that you pay out of pocket (not insurance ) are covered.  Since this is not a serious injury you will likely pay the attorney since there is no values to take it in contingency.  

Also like I said was this a tender operated by the cruise personnel???? 

What is a water shuttle?????  Was it one of the cruise ship life boat used as shuttle to the pier or was it a third party operated shuttle that was not operated by the ship personnel?

There are some port where local tenders are used and have nothing to do with the cruise line.  If this is the case you need to sue them in the country that it happened. 

Execucar will not operate after Dec 31.  

Do not take a nap.  Sleep on the plane. 

We are taking the AMA Riches of the Mekong (Siem Reap to Ho Chi Minh City)  with eight nights land extra. We Leave  LAX Jan 5th 2020 for Jan 7th first night in hotel. 

I used both Vietnam and Cambodia site to get my visas.  The Vietnam you get back by overnight fed ex and the Cambodia you get a PDF by email to print at home.   You don't need to send in your passport.  You do need to scan in a current passport size photo and your passport.  You need to make sure they are the correct size and mega bits.  The Camboida visa is good for only 90 days so order accordingly.

https://evisa.gov.kh/application_new $37 dollars for visa. 

http://visa.vietnamembassy-usa.org/  $158 dollars for two entry visa

Viking ships are about 200 passengers and there mostly have no tables for two and do not have room service. 

Did you look over there web site?  

I have been to the north shore five times and only one time seen any high surf.   I would not go to the north shore only with the hope of high surf.  When are you going to HI???

3 hours ago, brillohead said:

I've used a variety of credit cards from a variety of banks over the past six years (and I cruised enough to become Diamond in those six years, so a fair number of cruises), and I have NEVER had a hold on my credit card, I've never been "effectively charged twice", I've never had a hold prevent me from using my account elsewhere.

I think this is much ado about nothing, personally....

 

 

Homeland Security FAQ on Real IDs

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

Homeland Securtiyt site of FAQ for Real ID. 

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

With an estimated 70,000 showing up the first day and maybe one person capable of doing the screening if you no ID how long will the wait time be to get the No ID check??????????

Costco has the prices on good tequila.  I paid more in Mexico then Costco for the same brand. 

Will these people then want a refund from the airline when TSA does not let them in? 

The article I read said 70,000 the first day will not be able to board there plane on the first day Oct, 1, 2020.