2wheelin

3 hours ago, HicksRA said:

If the other person (friend or family) will not give you your money, he/she is not a person I’d want to cruise with. 
Sounds like you’re just trying to hit Royal for a double refund over their alleged mistake. 

Possible since the OP is not back to explain the reason for jumping on Royal

3 hours ago, nelblu said:

Again, if the Ops description of the event is true, it's just as easy for Royal to take the back the credit erroneously given to the wrong party.

So you just dial up Royal, they immediately answer, you explain in one minute or less the situation, they push a button and Bingo, all the paperwork is taken care of and you have your dollars in hand. Easy? Not so.

3 hours ago, kcmo74 said:

I don't even care about the OP's original issue in this thread, while it may be quickest for them to just get the money from the other party in their group, it is absolutely on Royal to fix their mistake. The amount of whining and complaining on this board about little issues that Royal doesn't handle or fix, yet this is the issue where everybody comes out as stans for Royal and says the OP should just figure it out, gtfo of here with all that. Royal is a multi-billion dollar company that we all pay large sums of money to for vacation experiences and customer service, the onus is completely on them to fix the mistake they made and admitted to. Suggesting the OP dispute with their card company and work with their traveling mate is fine, but anybody acting like the OP shouldn't be upset or expect Royal to fix this is utterly ridiculous. And now we've got people saying it sounds like you're trying to do something nefarious like get a double refund from Royal, wow, I'm glad all you high and mighty people are fine with Royal giving your money away.

Explain “everybody” and give examples please. It is fine for the OP to expect Royal to fix that and I don’t think anyone said otherwise. But not as a first resort. He could have most likely had his money back in pocket in less time than making the  original post. 

3 hours ago, kcmo74 said:

Like I said, I agree that is the quickest path to resolution and people just suggesting that to the OP are perfectly fine. I would probably handle it the same way you are suggesting. But those that are saying it's not on Royal to fix or defending Royal are way off based, they made a mistake pure and simple and they should fix it. I'm not one for defending the mega corp, who I've given my hard earned money to, when they screw up. 

Who said Royal should not fix if the easier path proved fruitless?

Where is the OP/

14 hours ago, Mowater said:

I paid for excursions so we could all be in the same group.

So did the other person not repay you or was it a gift? If they paid you, you are whole and so are they. If they did not pay you, who not ask them now for the refund they received? There obviously was a line of communication to set up the excursion. This all sounds fishy. Something as explained here could be solved with a conversation with the friend but it has escalated to talk of lawsuit with RCI?

Perception of wait time vs reality would be a very interesting study. Although I think most of us know what the outcome would be. 

Have used MTD several times and found it very usable. Not quite as convenient as Carnival but still……We would go to the podium about 6:00 the first night and always get in within 10 minutes. We would be asked if we wanted to eat about the same time every night and have the same table. 

As for bad service, the tips cover all the service people, not just waiters. It would be more productive to address any perceived poor service at the time of occurrence and forget about the few cents that person would get in tips from that interaction. Just leave the tips in place and if you feel you get poor service more than a couple of times (rare in my experience) look inward at your expectations.

4 hours ago, alfaeric said:

Suggestion next time, quote the thread you are actually replying to.  Or at least clarify what you are replying.  It wasn't clear what you were answering.

 

Still, the PP is required for the open loop cruise, the 6 month requirement is a country by country thing.  Royal just applies that to all cruises.  Whether its enforced on embarkation is the risk, as it seems that enforcement isn't 100%.  Many others have sailed on a sub 6 month PP and we just sailed with one.  I didn't trust that, so I got an enhanced driver's license that I can cruise on.

EDL will not cover all situations where a passport is required.

17 minutes ago, leaveitallbehind said:

Fairness, as any individual might see it, has nothing to do with it. Insurance liability guidelines are based on actuarial data and not individual fitness evaluations. That would not be feasible to determine individually on any given cruise excursion, because, as mentioned by several responders already, how and by whom would that be determined?

 

As also mentioned, there are liability based guidelines in place based on this data and have been for many years.

You always sign a waiver for the excursion provider so should not be a concern of the cruise line. Let people decide for themselves and take their chances. One could step off a curb on a walking excursion and break an ankle. Probably could not sue the cruise line either.

1 hour ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

Most of the "what happens to my roommate if I no-show on my casino rate" questions on here come up when plans unexpectedly change.  This one's pretty ballsy for contemplating a fraudulent booking in the first place.

It’s Called the limbo. How low can you go…Hope they get banned. But I just want to give my family a nice cruise……….

On 3/6/2024 at 4:51 PM, UNCFanatik said:

 

I fully understand that. That is not what I was referencing. I was referencing how it works on the bartender side from described in an earlier post; Bartender side NOT customer side

We don’t know how it is calculated on the bartender side though. They may get credited $1 for individual drinks but only 18% of the daily fee is added to the drink package so it would be a floating amount. Thus no $1.52 or whatever amount left over to wonder about.

Thus if the drink package is $80/da, the 18% is $14.40 no matter how many drinks are obtained. Maybe 15 which comes to 7%. The cruise line obviously has a formula to work that out so the bartender gets the credit amount for each drink no matter how much the actual percent of the tip. Not for us to worry about.

7 hours ago, UNCFanatik said:

'

Let me make sure I understand this. All drinks have a mandatory 18% gratuity. If I get the drink package and order a $14 drink then 18% equals $2.52

 

The bartender would be eligible for $1 per drink after $1400 drinks in a month so we have $1.52 remaining from the $2.52 and we are not sure were that $1.52 goes? 

No, you pay 18% on the drink package price no matter how many drinks you order. There is a tipping point depending on how much you paid for your package where the “tip” switches from greater than 18% to possibly much less than 18%. Your gratuity amount does not change no matter how many drinks you have.

How the cruise line determines a dollar amount for bartenders per drink is irrelevant.

With all these comments I just started to consider this for our March cruise. Please tell me more. Are there better/different free food choices than the buffets? Is the lagoon area good for snorkeling? Pictures look like it is more sheltered by rocks. Will the ocean be too cold in March? Is it an area you can come and go to other beach areas easily if you have friends with kids?

4 hours ago, thundercrack said:

It wasn't a Casino rate,  it was one of those VIFP offers and there was no Special Rate Code tagged to the offer.  The only blurb I see in the confirmation email is the below.

 

Offer is valid for guests with a qualifying VIFP # only.

This is the thing that could complicate no show unless daughter 3 was eligible for the same offer.

1 hour ago, Cruzin-K said:

Why on Earth would anyone do this without at least giving Royal Caribbean a chance to make it right?

 

The credit from Royal hit my card this morning. It took about 8 business days, but I got the refund. No need for escalation.

Knee jerk reaction from some people too lazy to call the cruise line first? Notice they stated have done it several times. Maybe not all cruise line mistakes but too small to contest. Who has that many incidences?

Glad you got it resolved quickly and appropriately.

4 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

I’ve never had a problem; I have disputed many charges with AMEX 

From what I have read on CC, cruise lines handle charge backs differently from most businesses. Will they worry about $50? Probably not. Could you be put on a watch list? Possibly.

1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Just contact your credit card company

and file a fraud claim on the $50

Good way to get banned from the cruise line.

15 hours ago, bg2310 said:

 

Never said how you experienced it was imaginary. I simply corrected you and provided an explanation as to why it's not a "rumor" as accurate input would be needed. Maybe not be so defensive?

 

Just because the way we've used something in the past and it's worked doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct way. 

 

Also, just because something has worked the way you've done it doesn't mean you understand it entirely or how it works.

 

It goes back to what I said originally - how is a system supposed to know how many people are getting on an elevator without the relevant input?

 

It doesn't. You must provide that input. As someone who works with computers and systems for a living, they don't just "work" like magic. It might seem that way, but underneath it there are variables and parameters that have to be provided.

 

Am I saying it doesn't work unless you do it the "correct" way? Nope.

 

Thank you. You worded it so much better than I would have. I also suggest anyone in a scooter or with a stroller make extra “requests” so more space will be allotted. Although I usually defer to a scooter, it is a negative experience when my assigned elevator arrives and a scooter takes up all the space.

1 hour ago, gavvy said:

My office has had this system for 5 years or so, it makes it more efficient and saves power by only dispatching an elevator to the floor that needs it.  You will still stop at other floors on the way to your destination like before, it just makes it more efficient.

 

One good thing is you know what door the elevator will arrive at in advance, so stops people rocking up and jumping in before you have the chance as you are the wrong side of the bank of doors.  However if there are too many of you waiting and you cant get in then you will have to go back and call another like before.  You are not guaranteed an empty elevator and there could be more waiting to get in than it has capacity for.

If people used the system correctly and requested space for each person in their party, there would be space. Unless there is a scooter in which case there should be instructions to make more than one request.

 

 

3 hours ago, sid_9169 said:

Now it's time for the money shot... Both of my masks ended up making it home in one piece. Even the one that was molested by the TSA. I'll add these to my growing tribal mask collection...

 

 

 

 

 

Beautiful masks. Have thoroughly enjoyed your posts.  You make it all come to life instead of just a list of things you did, ate, and drank. BTW your attack on booze will go much better with a buddy. 
Way back in the double or triple digit pages I mentioned a new building in town you might like. However it is part of a large medical complex so I hope you never have to come here. 
 

7 hours ago, Essiesmom said:

In your comment, at the bottom you will see choose files.  Click on that and you can post from your photo library.  I’m not sure how you do it otherwise unless from a hosting site, like Shutterfly.  But I usually do that with my surface pro, rather than the iPad I’m on now.

 

Thank you. I only saw the other media choice and that didn’t work.

What do I need to do to post a photo in a comment?

😢 😢 

5 hours ago, KmomChicago said:

I mean, this guy with a blissfully happy life and marriage, a lifetime of memories, cruises galore, is straight up DELIGHTED with this Oriental Trading 72 cent rubber duck. 
 

Proof again that attitude is Everything!

It’s not the duck. It’s who he can please with it. 😊 

1 hour ago, Destiny0315 said:

The red flag for me in this thread is the OP who joined CC on Tuesday at 11am and posted for 10 hours while stirring the pot then disappeared and hasn't been heard from since!

They obviously joined because they had a question. Why is that a red flag? He stated he was taking peoples advice from here and gathering the necessary paperwork to pursue. He has nothing more to add until he hears from Carnival. What pot is being stirred?

Some people have jobs and/or don’t spend every day on social media.

2 hours ago, ontheweb said:

Yes, and it is not blaming the victim when I write not taking American Express should have been a re flag because Carnival like all other cruise lines accept Amex for payment. It is a warning for others who may not realize what a red flag that was.

I’ve cruised quite a bit and would not have known that all cruise lines accept Amex since quite a few places do not—especially outside the US. There are logical red flags-like “you have to pay for this in full with no refund possibility”, and there are red flags that aren’t as logical. You learn them through a bad experience or from sites such as this.

It would be nice if people would post “that would have been a red flag for ME since I have had X experience, rather than heap blame by stating that should have been a red flag for anyone.

5 hours ago, sid_9169 said:

I think you can, but not the "good coffee"... I need the full octane stuff...

Have you ever tried chomping on chocolate covered coffee beans? Highly portable and strong.

16 minutes ago, sid_9169 said:

This is where I'm supposed to meet Jamman for the Diamond thing at noon.

 

 

 

Memories! My first cruise was on the Carnivale. Tablecloths, crumb scrapers, the whole bit.

46 minutes ago, onlyano said:

BTW I’m sitting by this family that has already lost one of their kids. 

Quick work. How many more to go? 😊