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Not happy but staying positive until I have reason to feel otherwise

 

 

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Finally even the on board experience can't make up for the ineptness of Azamara management.

 

 

 

We've now "backed up" our next year's Azamara B2B with a nice Ocean Princess B2B itinerary. :)Still hate the idea of having to pay Azamara to cancel our cruises because their rules have changed midstream. :mad:

 

 

 

Bruce

 

 

 

 

 

You should not have to pay to cancel

 

They withdrew an inducement

 

 

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I received my e-mail with the wrong tier indicated - didn't bother to ask to have it corrected - doesn't matter anyway!

 

 

At least u got an email. Lol

 

 

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Just read ncl email to tas

 

Trying to post

 

 

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Free Internet minutes gone

 

 

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You will recall that folks got money back when land discoveries program discount changed

 

Azamara knows it may not change the deal after booking.

 

An inducement to get someone to book May not simply be removed. Look up the elements of fraud under us law I think Florida law governs

 

MisRepresentation of fact Can be intentional or negligent

Relied upon

Material

Damages

 

Contract not even needed

 

No company may do this

 

 

 

 

If they eliminated free gratuities or free wine it would be no different

 

 

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Those benefits were an INDUCEMENT to book. To remove the inducement after taking our money might be called fraud

 

 

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Azamara needs to give FULL refunds for 2015 bookings based on it having materially changed benefits to passengers. Azamara may not remove benefits upon which people relied when booking and keep deposits. It's a breach of contract

 

We can all understand ports can change. But a cruise line may not significantly reduce amenities after taking people's money and expect to keep that money. On our b 2 b we will have lost 1000 plus internet minutes plus at least four bags of free laundry. Deal breaker I am an attorney. I need to be connected. I would never have booked without those free internet minutes

 

My ta will be the first to request a full refund. Expect others to follow

 

 

 

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If I could cancel my 2015 b2b without penalty I would

The ONLY benefits I cared about were Internet and laundry

 

I don't sail for benefits but I don't patronize companies that care so little about their customers

 

I will never book another Azamara cruise.

 

It is a terrible organization

 

There are many other great options

 

I have asked my ta to try to cancel my two cruises without penalty. The change in terms is a dealbreaker for me

 

 

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Will that work if we have different last names, and email addresses. He's DF (dear fiancé) not DH. Lol

 

 

Yes

One cabin number

One password

Name and email address are irrelevant

 

 

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Although the PH suites on the larger ships have very nice balconies, I can't imagine actually being served a meal out there, at a table. They're not really set up that way. Nor is the table that could be used for a meal close to the balcony--so you can't just open the balcony doors and pretend.

 

 

Agree. I don't think the phs are big enough to dine INSIDE the cabin unless u like using the bed as a sideboard. Cramped at best

 

If dining in your cabin is your thing, book a larger suite

 

 

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You use cabin number and password u create as sign on. One device at a time but as many devices as u have with you

 

As I have posted before occasionally we have experienced a glitch in the system and we can both be on at same time. Don't count on it

 

 

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Frequent passengers do not get free wifi. They get a discount

Promo is the only way

 

 

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[quote name='computerworks']Your citation is the 'conventional wisdom' of 2010. Lot of water under the bridge since then.



Ironically it was Apollo who turned the Epic into a blivet of a design.



A new CEO at Norwegian in 2008 took about 10 minutes to decide the Epic was a gaff and killed the remaining orders, despite the penalties. That stuff is 4 year old news.



Today, two new large ships of a different design are successfully sailing, with two more in the works.



As mentioned above the suite experience on Norwegian has no comparison in the mass market arena. They have the formula and it works. That being done, I am sure they see the profitability of an upscale line to attract their current upscale customers.. who are bit less pretentious than some. :cool: The core mass market demographic won't give Oceania or Regent a second glance.



As I said, they would be smart not to tamper with the Prestige model, but they sure would be able to teach them a thing or two about systems, infrastructure and technology. Has RCL mismanaged Azamara?[/QUOTE]

Rccl had indeed mismanaged Azamara. It's a disaster







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Not true

I have two seabourn cruises booked and I loved the pg

I'm not interest in included big bus shore excursions

 

 

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Without knowing you it is impossible to determine. Many of us love the smaller ships and understand that there will be fewer activities to choose from than on the larger ships But I have met cruisers who tell me they are bored because there is not enough to do

 

I do not need to be entertained on a sea day. I am happy reading or knitting or going to maybe one activity a day.

You really have to know yourself and what suits you

 

 

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I was on riviera rt Miami last December

Huge mix

We met some charming well traveled folks in their 90s

Lots of walkers

But There were also many 30 somethings

Atypical o crowd IMO

 

 

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This is very entertaining and trite. 41 posts over nothing.

 

 

I'm with you

The horse is dead

 

 

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They help me all the time. Officers often attend. If I'm lucky they throw in snacks or treats.

 

 

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We travel with four large rolling duffels. We will never change. At least I won't

 

 

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we need to stop feeding the troll or it will never end.

Good idea, but if Cathi or Pam or Barb Or Sally got to the only decent guide before you, you'd be out of luck like the rest of us.

 

 

Never happen. Lol

 

 

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When did they go out of fashion? Lol

 

 

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I love private tours and join as many of them as I can. But, the only way to assure yourself a spot is to do the organizing yourself, and that is often impossible in ports with limited resources and several organizers. There are only so many top rated guides, the groups are small by design, and unless you agree immediately to every one posted, often without time for consideration, you will find the tour full and you'll be out of luck.

 

The World Cruise is the ultimate challenge. With a very active roll call of at least 45 couples, private tours have been arranged in many of the over 80 ports. But, with 5 months to go, most are full. If you were on a cruise, or hospitalized or otherwise unable to respond immediately, you don't have a chance.

 

I'm booked on several, but nowhere near all I want to see on my only chance to go around the world. What's left are ship excursions. One needs a minimum of 25 to get the 25% discount; many of us -- almost all experienced cruisers who love private excursions -- will have no trouble reaching that minimum.

 

My point is that exclusively advocating private excursions can be an exercise in frustration.

 

The World Cruise might be different but if I were on it I'd be organizing 80 private excursions (assuming I'd want a tour in every port -- not likely). LOL In fact, I'd ask Arlene (tanny18) to go so she could organize 40 of them--- making it much more manageable.