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CoachT

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  1. I've read through this thread and apparently I'm not the only one who thinks your thinking is off....It's like that idiot driver on the road; if you're driving like a maniac and thinking that EVERYONE else on the road is an idiot....maybe it's time for a reality check...

    Well Mr. Fain agrees with me or I agree with him and he knows a lot more about ships than you or I. I am THRILLED that the discounting will end and prices are going up!

  2. I dunno what kinda business degree or school you went to, but how on earth could a business succeed by essentially throwing away. That's basically what you're saying. They can afford to sail with empty rooms?! Really, how long?
    They cannot afford to sail with unprofitable cruisers and as a rule, those seeking discounts and cheap last minute prices are unprofitable cruisers in the grand scheme of things. I know they went so far as to sell staterooms at a loss and did not make it up in onboard revenue. Far better to sail with a certain percentage of empty staterooms than with a full ship of unprofitable cruisers.
  3. If you think that the Seabourn/Oceania/Regent and Crystal cruisers of the world were all peachy keen with the Royal Suite and Celebrity Suite cruisers suddenly being able to afford those premium lines, you are sorely mistaken.

     

    You equate cheap and discount cruisers with class and you are also sorely mistaken. But the facts are undeniable. It would have been far better for revenue had Fain stayed the course and not dropped prices as RCI did in 2009. Those who could suddenly afford Royal were not spending more onboard and onboard revenue dropped in some cases by as much as 75%. It would have been far better to keep prices the same and not do as others did.

     

    Believe me there is a class of Carnival people who are able to afford a certain price point and I choose not to cruise with that class. Yes and we all discriminate in our lives and there is NOTHING illegal about it.

  4. Generally very true however, raising prices, for the purpose of excluding a certain group of people is discrimination.

    And there is not a thing illegal about that in the slightest. Show me the law that says different.

     

    I will be on QOTS soon so I am not a Crystal or Regent cruiser. I just know the evidence as demonstrated the moment prices were lowered. Yes the ships were filled, but specialty restaurant spending went down. A certain class of people who could now afford a Royal Cruise were not spending more money onboard and as such onboard revenue went down.

     

    If you look at increased revenue (and not profit from that revenue) you will also note that onboard pricing did go up. I know Richard Fain would rather sell with empty staterooms with people paying a premium because they will more than make up that spending onboard. Cheap people looking for a cheap deal will cruise as cheaply as possible period.

  5. The economic reality is FACT. When the prices dropped and the discount seekers and cheap cruisers came, onboard revenue dropped. It makes more sense to keep prices higher where people will and do spend money on board.

     

    Those who bought at a discount, were not prepared and did not spend as before. This is a verifiable fact. It is not elitist to state reality. Richard Fain has been stating for years that cruise prices across the lines were artificially far too low for the value offered. As a shareholder, this is a brilliant strategy to end this discounting nonsense.

  6. I think some of these changes and increases are short sighted and may back fire. I think they are big increases and will really test brand loyalty. NCL's pricing and promotions are easy to understand and they are pumping out new ships too with new entertainment and experiences. And the prices just blow RCI away. Royal's pricing themselves away from a lot of very loyal members. Loyalty and liking the brand though doesn't mean paying more on RCI for an oceanview with no beverage package than getting a balcony for 3 with beverage packages on NCL. They've got a lot of beds to fill and if they fleece all the newcomers they may not be back for more.

    They are getting more newcomers every single day with these promotions as the loyal ones are mostly staying loyal. They need new blood to fill these ships and are doing an amazing job.

  7. Eight phone lines for 2,500 passengers has to be a challenge. I'd be happy to offer my email address if anyone wants contact me and have me make phone calls to hotels, family, etc on their behalf.

    For all of those people on Cruise Critic who see no value or use in a Travel Agent and ONLY book them for the perks, this is exactly the kind of thing an agent would be doing for their client(s). Calling hotels, family, rebooking flights etc.

     

    This has much more value to many than some onboard credit, a bottle of wine or being in "control of their reservation." :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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