Robo1098

As far as I know points cannot be given or transferred.

Has anyone received this 10% cash back promotion from Discover? You have to book through them. I don't think they offer any OBC or anything else. Trying to figure out if this is a good deal.

I have done that. I bring both cards with me to the bar.

It was very refreshing reading this post. I've been reading these posts and getting more and more annoyed with it all. should have stopped reading but couldn't. This put things back to normal.

Very nice-I`ve not said one nasty thing to any yet I get slings and arrows.

The below link will allow you to see what this skipper saw as it developed from early on the 6th. You can go frame by frame and watch the pressure drop and isobars narrow. I`m not a 1000' ships master, but I do drive a 30+`cruiser with radar and my crew`s safety is my responsibility. Could he have turned around, ducked into the Chesapeake, hauled tail out to sea I don`t know, but clearly he saw a monster coming and kept heading south.

Pay particular attention to 0240 07 Feb-developing hurricane force-Goodbye RCI thread.

http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/?select1=Atlc&select2=watlsfc&select3=7&select4=normal&select6=Script

Sorry, You are correct. Not trying to start something. The one you post was from Sunday. Is there one available from Saturday when they departed. I was hoping to see the difference and what it looked like then.

A forecast last Thursday night (Feb 4) from the NWS Ocean Prediction Center said that by Sunday night, the Atlantic Ocean off the Carolinas would experience winds up to 50 knots (57.5 mph) and seas up to to 31 feet. By Saturday afternoon, forecasts were calling for 65 knot (75 mph)winds and seas to 11.5 meters (about 38 feet) by noon Sunday.

The Anthem has highly multiple sophisticated meteorological systems aboard.

On Saturday has was fully aware the monster was growing, (barometric pressure falling, isobars getting tighter and a defined "eye" was forming.

He knew this on SATURDAY. Armed with the information that the beast was growing, he just headed right into it.

On Sunday at 1 or 2, he could have turned around. pressure system

Where is the map from Thursday that you are quoting? You post a map from Sunday at 4:30 after the storm had already strengthened. I would like to see the map from when they set out to sea.

I don't think so.... According to Susan Buchanan, spokesman for the NOAA there was an Ocean prediction Center alert issued at 1pm Friday which forecast "developing hurricane force winds for Sunday in the Atlantic ".

Many offshore waters forecasts for the Carolinas included warnings thru Sunday for hurricane force winds...

 

http://www.wfaa.com/news/nation/meteorologists-royal-caribbean-blew-it-sailing-into-storm/38119844

Neither the captain or Royal Caribbean are saying that the storm wasn't predicted. It is the strength of the storm that was not predicted. The storm was supposed to have winds up to 75 mph and much smaller in size than it ended up being. At the original prediction they could have sailed around the main part of the storm and even if they couldn't have avoided it the ship could have withstood 75 mph winds without any serious issue. All these articles talk about that they had predicted the storm. Yes they did. They don't mention how far off these professionals were on the strength and size.

You may choose to drive when some snow is predicted and you know you can handle that safely. Are you at fault when you get caught in a blizzard that wasn't predicted.

I live in Florida and love that I have so many ports within driving distance. If I lived up north I would be one of the people cruising out of the northeast. Too much hassle flying. Too limited to what you can pack. Extra vacation days taken to fly to Florida with enough time to not miss your cruise. I get it. So stay inside the ship the first couple days gamble, eat. Then get out and enjoy the sun

The fact that it was a closed loop cruise means nothing as far as an investigation is concerned. The fact that you recognize that the ship was offshore enough to open the casinos means that the ship was in international waters. Therefore, once again, it is a foreign flag ship, in international waters. And it has been announced that the USCG will do a Port State control inspection, which only determines that all SOLAS (international) regulations are met, and the ship is seaworthy according to SOLAS. The USCG cannot enforce their stricter regulations on a foreign ship. It has also been announced that the Bahamas Maritime Authority (the flag state) will investigate the "process" (the company's ISM plan that meets the international IMO's ISM code), and has asked for assistance from the USCG. There will likely not be a separate report from the USCG, nor will there be any actions taken by the US, since it is not their ship.

 

 

 

You don't see many, though there are some, Deck and Engine Officers on cruise ships, I knew a few personally. The reason you don't see them often is because they can make more money on US flag ships, so they stay with those billets. However, they make well up in the six figures, for six months work a year. How you doing in comparison? I live in Maine, too. Plus, in many countries, Norway for example, merchant mariners do not pay the social security portion of the income tax, which can amount to 30+%.

 

And a misogynist to boot. Your statements about Captain McCue are just uncalled for, and smack of some resentment against women in the workplace.

 

"Those days are gone, Norway, Sweden. Old days.

Now British, Greek, India, Iceland, Turkey, occasional Italian."

 

And your source would be? Wikipedia, maybe? Actually, while many are from Scandinavia and Western Europe (I won't go into your insinuation that Britain is a third world country), many of them live, and live well in Florida. Your generalization would probably apply to cargo ship Captains, but not in the cruise industry.

 

And so another addition to my very limited ignore list.

Now stop making reasonable statements. They have no place in this discussion.

Eat a Snickers!!!

Awesome!

There is no money RC can give to make this horrific experience OK.

Somewhere between Captain and Corporate a very poor decision was made to start this cruise that put over 5000 human lives in jeopardy. There is no excuse for that. Thank God everyone is now safe.

Really? You aren't on the ship. If the people on the ship feel that way that's one thing. I don't know how horrific it was from behind your computer.

NOAA isn't blaming anybody or saying they screwed up. They said that they issued an advisory that winds may go from 63 to 75 mph. If the winds had been at the level predicted there most likely would not have been any issues with the ship or the cruise continuing on. Even the "weather experts" talk of how quickly this storm developed into something much larger and stronger than predicted. Yes they knew there was a storm and went anyway. The storm was not supposed to be that large and it seemed they could avoid the main portion of the originally predicted storm.

Thanks for what seems like a realistic account of what happened to you. I can understand the fear but some of these accounts of the ship leaning over 45 degrees are a little much. Sorry for what you went through.

The way I read that story is there will be less total cabins available. That is why there will be less discounting. Moving more ships to Asia. I have never understood people getting mad about prices going down at the last minute. People book early usually to get a better choice of cabins. It's all a game if you want the lower fare wait and take your chances. If you want a certain cabin book it and enjoy the vacation.

Just got off the Allure after using Rum Runners for the first time. No problems.