john watson

I should say firstly, if it is your first ever cruise you have no other ships as a comparison.  Secondly due to the covid-19 situation many cruise lines dispensed with their older ships.  Conversely those cruise lines operating the oldest cruise ships tended to switch those for superior second hand ships from the larger cruise lines.  The sort of ships like Black Prince whilst nostalgic went years ago.

Regards John

5 minutes ago, TrixiePixie said:

What is the class of princess ships called from the Caribbean princess through the Ruby princess thanks

Generally Grand Class, named after the biggest cruise ship in the world at that time

Many people consider sub divisions of the Grand Class.

Regards John

2 hours ago, david63 said:

Unfortunately some appear to be hard of hearing so just congregate at the gangway just in case they can get off sooner!

Some cruise lines announce the group next to disembark quietly in the relevant lounge and have very small coloured gangway passes.  One could wait all day by the gangway not realising you group went twenty minutes ago.

Regards John

3 hours ago, 9265359 said:

 

 

 

 

So still hassle for P&O dealing with people who will be arguing with them to be let back through.

 

The staff in this case are not P&O they are working for the port and implement produres consistent with UK Border Force

.Regards John

39 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

I think it is the way that P&O want you to attend a meeting point and wait there until they say you can disembark. Princess, Celebrity and Royal Caribbean make regular announcements advising when a disembarkation group can leave the ship. This enables passengers to know how disembarkation is progressing and and allows passengers to speed up or slow down their breakfasts, and seems to avoid the mass scrums for the lifts, which are always full, and certainly makes the whole process much less stressful.

Princess have a much larger number of smaller colour groups waiting at specific places. They also have a coloured baggage tag counterfoil to show at the gangway. Announcements are made at the various meeting points and those of that colour group disembark together. The idea is that it prevents everyone waiting at the disembarkation doorway, blocking it but then waiting for your group announcement as it is not audible there.  I think the difference between P&O and Princess is that P&O do not  have a Gatwick early, late Heathrow early, late and people going to Stonehenge, Salisbury on the way to the airport. 

Regards John

4 hours ago, 9265359 said:

 

It would just create more hassle for the staff as such people would simply claim that they had used the wrong exit and would need to be let back into the baggage hall, with arguments ensuing if they were not or were delayed doing so.

 

Controlling people getting onto a ship isn't too difficult. Controlling people getting off is more challenging and relies on people doing 'the right thing'.

 

 

Once in the street people who want to return to the baggage hall can only do so by going through the security process in the same way that b2b people do. You just need one way doors and have security staff available at the exit  You let people back in after they go to the entrance and go through security checks.

Regards John

1 hour ago, 9265359 said:

 

Those who want to jump the queue will simply leave whenever they want anyway.

 

 

 

This would not be possible under David63's plan.  The so called queue jumpers are doing this by participating in the traditional leave your luggage outside cabin for crew collection system but then saying they are self-disembarking to exit the ship early and get to the baggage hall first. Under David's system, self-disembarking passengers are ejected straight into the street.

Regards John

You should make sure you know the cabin preferences all the family members should like balcony or other and in addition deck preferences and whether they want all cabins close together.  Phone up with a printed deck plan to hand, let them know how many cabins you want to book and discuss your requirements. This is the best way to sort things out I suggest.

Regards John

4 hours ago, MyriamS said:

Now I'm confused because I was told by most people in this thread that I cannot just join a queue to leave the ship. Either I need to self-disembark early, or wait for my normal disembarkation slot (that is assigned to me a couple of days before arrival and that I might not be able to change). 

 

 

 

I believe if you wish to self-disembark you are really saying that you and all your companions are able to carry all your luggage off the ship unassisted. That is all. If you leave at a time when a large crowd of people are disembarking and they have very little luggage you will impede them to some extent. This is not the best idea when you look at the overall picture.  In addition if you have heavy suitcases and feel it is unsafe to go down escalators etc. and want to opt for the lifts this is a bit selfish insofar as people in wheelchairs have no option but to use the lift. I should not do this as getting off later with traditional night time collection of cases is easily organised by talking to reception.  There is never a fight to get the last disembarkation group by huge numbers of passengers.

Regards John

39 minutes ago, 9265359 said:

 

Whenever I have self-disembarked (with my luggage) it has involved walking though the normal hall, and all the normal disembarkation luggage had already been already set out for collection in the hall and none of the staff were engaged in putting any more out.

I suspect if you were really early the forklifts would still be unloading. Once all the cases are laid out they ten start calling colour groups in the set sequence. I accidently disembarked one cruise due to a misunderstanding and was invited to disembark. The gangway guy, I assume thought we were self-disembarking when we were not and quite happy to wait.. We were just moving from one lounge to another and passing the disembarkation gangway.  Once in the hall our cases were still on pallets and they did not like us waiting.

Regards John

6 hours ago, DamianG said:

 

The couple that were in front of us were carrying a single small bag. They were stopped by a steward in the terminal who asked where their luggage was. "We are going to collect it now" was their answer. At this point they were directed to a waiting area and advised that general disembarkation had not yet commenced as luggage was still being unloaded and moved to the baggage hall.

 

So they had either missed or deliberately chosen to ignore the disembarkation information that would have been left in their cabin for them to read.

 

I do not think you will have any problems self disembarking and if challenged you will be able to demonstrate that you are carrying all your luggage (if you really need to).

 

 

It is not a good idea to participate in the organised luggage carry off by the crew and them try to self-disembark.  This is because once in the baggage hall the staff expect passengers to  leave the area immediately.  The organised luggage will be coming into a separated off area in large pallet type containers and spread out in piles.  They do not tolerate people waiting in the baggage hall who have disembarked before they are told to. This is all part of organising things Only passengers whose luggage has been laid out in the hall are wanted in the hall and the staff keep in contact on progress by radio.

Regards John

40 minutes ago, david63 said:

The only ones that can give a definitive answer are P&O

This is true, but you are a long time into the future, your fare basis is acceptable and length of cruises similar.  I think you have a good chance of success.

Regards John

It is never possible to be certain how soon you are allowed to board the ship.  I should check out the hotel and sit in their foyer with your luggage and have a coffee etc.  Get a taxi to cruise terminal about 1pm and put your luggage through the hole in the wall.  Just play it by ear in the terminal, they generally check you in then you are asked to wait various lengths of time.  They have some very basic snacks and drinks there plus toilet facilities. They call you whenever and you can be lucky. There is not a specific restriction to wait until the allocated time as such.. They just process the passengers as efficiently as they can with certain types, having priority.

Regards John.

I think a fly cruise makes a lot of sense out of Scotland.  While you mention the wasted sea days out of Southampton which you see in a negative manner, I would be more positive on those.  I think my objection would be getting from Scotland to Southampton, in both terms of time and cost.  Some lines include the airfare with a list of available airports. Many do a cruise only fare rate so you need to factor in your own arrangements cost and to be prudent book an overnight hotel at the port of embarkation in case of travel delays.

Regards John

I should say obtaining a US passport is by far a better idea than relying on a series of documents which may suffice under specific circumstances.  The rules may change in the future possibly without warning and you risk being denied boarding at some stage.

Regards John

Generally speaking any cruise ships which need repositioning in the Spring, around March time  leave Caribbean and sail Eastwards towards Europe. In the Autumn around October they sail Westwards leaving Europe for the warmth of the Caribbean area.

Regards John

I should just use a cheap flights website and where you are offered single, return you just go further down and put in multistop.  Then search A to B on a date plus C to D on a return date. B and C can be thousands of miles apart and no air travel booked between them.

Regards John

4 minutes ago, candy4040 said:

Isn't the muster station listed on the back of our stateroom door?

This is correct, however some people have indicated that they like to go to the muster station first, prior to cabins being available. They may then register at the station and this allows them have a drink prior to trying to find their cabin.

Regards John

6 minutes ago, doghog said:

Disagree. No way are we new to cruising. We are cut out for cruising, We like the new way of doing the muster drill. Huge improvement. We board before the cabins are available. When we first board we go directly to our muster station to be accounted for to get that out of the way. Then off to get a welcome aboard drink, do a little exploring of the ship while waiting for the cabins to become available. Cheers. 

My experience of booking in at the muster station is that the guys controlling things are not generally in attendance immediately you board the ship.  Certainly not before cabins are available.  I have always assumed that this was the case as the majority of passengers have not yet by that time been able to see the notice on the cabin door.

Regards John

7 minutes ago, EDDY0827 said:

Wanna bet on that? I have never been given incorrect safety information from Security.

Security staff are highly trained in not escalating a situation and are specialists in dealing with people who are drunk, obnoxious, violent, out of there mind etc. They will definitely go out of their way to make sure people's problems are resolved however trivial without causing offence or making them feel stupid.

Regards John

15 hours ago, greenbeanie said:

how do I know where my muster station is before I go to the cabin?  Does that info pop up on the app once I board (like, it seems, the folio does).?

I think people who need to know where there muster station is prior to boarding are not really cut out for cruising.  The location of the muster station displayed is on the back of your cabin door together with information of how to get there. A written reminder of which one is yours A, B, C etc. is on your life jacket.  The drill procedure has to be completed before the ship sails and therefore the risk is very low, you are still in port. If you ask security they will likely say deck 7 as they don't know which cabin you are in and if you tell them again probably tell you look at the notice on your cabin door.

I equate this sort of concern with attempting to check in at a hotel and asking them where the fire exit is from your room and not checking in until this is resolved.  You cant be too careful, can you.

Regards John

20 hours ago, JimmyVWine said:

Obviously.  But the disruption in the venue where there are literally tens of thousands of dollars of chips on the tables in unmatched by any other venue on the ship.  Imagine sitting at a poker table when the signal sounds and people heed the call to go back to their cabins as they should.  "Hey! Where are you going?  Stay here and finish out this hand!"  And if everyone does what they are supposed to and heeds the warning, what happens to the chips in the center of the table as the people whose muster station is the casino arrive in a few minutes and start to sit at the gaming tables?  None of this is an issue in the theater or in Princess Live. 

i am sure an emergency protocol has been devised by the management of the casino. In a similar way as heart attacks have a response procedure. I should imagine they finish all games in process and clear all the chips away for security reasons which will not take long. If players immediately walk off it might be regarded as folding. Although it is an emergency signal it is not an announcement of instant threat to life.  They might even direct committed players to go direct to muster station as a default.

Regards John

There is a good video on YouTube called "Princess Cruises Safety Video 2021"  It explains clearly a lot about security and the muster drill which will happen when on board.  It is a very good general guide and some details may have changed slightly.  Viewing it wont count towards needing to see the video once onboard but you will have a much better understanding of the whole process.

Regards John

The situation is exacerbated if your mother in law or other family members are in the adjoining cabin.  They make noise just the same but also want to come through the door to see if you are all right.

Lol John

On 4/14/2024 at 7:11 PM, JimmyVWine said:

 Nothing says “Muster Station” like a print of an olive sliding down a piano leg!

 

Pre-Covid we frequently mustered in the casino. In a real emergency that would be ridiculous. Presumably when the emergency arose, the casino could very likely be open, with money and chips all over the place. Then, all of a sudden, the people in the casino whose muster station was elsewhere would have to leave in a panic, while several hundred other people would be coming in. No telling what would happen to the chips and cash. A recipe for chaos. 

In reality all the muster stations are going to be used for another purpose, not just the casino. When a genuine muster is called the official response passengers should make is to return to cabins to collect life jackets, the warm clothing and medication. There are special arrangements for children's clubs. Next stage is to go down to the muster station and be counted.  This will disrupt whatever people are doing initially, eating dinner, playing bingo etc.  All facilities, bars etc. close down and stop selling drinks because the crew need to muster and take up new roles. Remember the signal is not the signal that an abandon ship situation is taking place. It could be a possible man overboard scenario and a full count of all passengers and crew might prove it to be a very strong yet false alarm. Accounting for everybody will save a lot of wasted time.

Regards John