Elbozi

Not cruising for now,  because our kids, are not vaxxed..     And to reflect, others; you do you.  Peace.

As to loosing business, in short run, no way, too many backed up cruise credits moving forward.    Long term.... Maybe.   At least from those traveling with kids, and have worries about whatever.    I figure in about 12 months the requirement will be gone anyway.

Was on Disney Fantasy and they plucked a few guys out of the ocean.   This was back in 2016 I think, those guys get a ride right back to Cuba from what I understand.

Booked NCL Joy to Bermuda in May 21,  and Mardi Gras in Nov 21.   Here's to the future!

Since it's first time to run, perhaps it's just burning off paint, oils and other materials in the exhaust system. 

Europe is basically beta testing this for us in the real world.    Cool thing is we actually get to see the pros and cons of it in real time.    I'm sure they will tweak it as they go.    

13 minutes ago, jetsfan58 said:

 

My big concern is what if a person/family has saved all year for their cruise (I would speculate that there are Carnival

I think the European model works around this with the Covid Insurance for $18 per passenger.   They should just build it in to the price.   But if you have the insurance,  this takes care of your lost fares and expenses.      Nothing is perfect, and it looks like some of you will never sail again.  

here is what is like on MSC  ,  Nutshell, Temp + Swab test.  Fail either you are denied boarding.   Everyone is issued a tracking wrist band, to monitor whom you have been around as well.     You can buy Coronavirus insurance for $18 euro per passenger.  So if you don't do that, sounds like your out your money, if you are denied boarding.    You can only go on Cruise endorsed excursions.    They have spent $600k US per cruise for medical testing.   Ouch. 

This is already being done in Europe,  people using swab test who tested positive were denied boarding.    You can surely find out exactly what the procedure is online.   It's talked about in this Youtube 

ahh, found the small print

On select cruises , only.    Probably the one's during the school year.  🙂

Long time Carnival customer.  Looking to do an Alaska in August 2021 Either the Encore or Bliss,   Looking at the offer today it looks like Kids is in the offer on the home page, but every time I fill out a mock booking, it doesn't not ask age or Have that come up on the Pick 2.     Am I missing something in the fine print. 

Best

7 minutes ago, Elbozi said:

Dam I replied to myself.  Oops.  I'm a fool, erase this.

 

December

I have some close friends that got Covid,  they say they are susceptible to getting it again after about two months.   I'd heard this before, not sure what to believe anymore,  but this was from their doctors, and I don't know if I believe that either..    I gotta bad feeling this will mutate this winter enough to be another virulent strain.    It's not going to go away.   Vaccine or not, it looks like we might be dealing with this 3 years from now.  It's becoming the new normal.    Glad I got one last cruise in before the crap hit the fan.  

4 minutes ago, Bostwick girl said:

I’m sure glad you’re NOT in charge! I’m over 70 and a heck of a lot healthier than most people I know, including my children! Here in Florida most of the cases these last few weeks are those below 35 or so who don’t bother to wear a mask or practice social distancing, they think they’re invincible!

 

Lol,  good job!  Well no worries there I know nothing about anything. and no one is going to let me be in charge of anything.   I just have a keyboard and internet and a IQ of about 70.  🙂   

6 minutes ago, drsel said:

13 minutes ago, BlueHerons said:

My former employee is an executive with Carnival and she told me Saturday that the company isn't thinking they will be sailing again in 2020.  No ports will let them dock, no employees, etc.
 
YMMV.

But Costa and P&O UK have cruises scheduled from mid October onwards

I read that as in "CARNIVAL" branded ships.

It's killing their stock price, when they miss their sail dates.     I think they are tamping down expectations at this point.   Since the virus hasn't fundamentally changed, and seems to be on the uptick.  It doesn't look good for any 2020 sailings at this point IMHO.    Come on vaccine!, need that before this thing mutates into something else.   If I was in charge, I would just keep those over 70 or with compromised immune systems from sailing and just do it.   But this is more than just a issue with the CDC, unfortunately.   Mexico extended their non-essential travel ban.    All of the right pieces have to fall into place.  

Still tough out their for vacations.   Alaska requires 14 day isolation or Covid Free Test done within 72 hours,  Hawaii is still 14 day quarantine.   Mexico border is still closed to all non-essential travel.    Mexico is a huge amount of destinations for Carnival.

Been buying the dips.   NCHL too

LOL, see the news headline now.  Right after the very first port of call.   "No one allowed back on Carnival Ship, after everyone test as having excessive temperature"     And you look at a long line of people standing in the sun, sweating their asses off.

The way I understand it, It's the ship yard that eats a huge loss, when the ship doesn't deliver on time.   I'll have to dig around to find it, but on a Finnish forum, the ship about a month ago was ahead of the current schedule.   They are throwing everything at it around the clock to get it done on time.   This includes the Covid19 setbacks.

Sorta doubt they are taking on very many contracts right now.   Two months out from sailing, is a lot of time to have to feed, payroll and house everyone.    I bet they end up leaving ships around the world to quickly pick up crews.   Or just fly them in, since it's not going to be that many ships starting back up.

Just to follow up on this,  I was on a three way call today between my TA and Carnival.   Carnival has this cruise locked up, meaning they are not allowed to make any changes to it other than cancellations.   Carnival rep, indicated that it wasn't sold out,  that their is availability,  she said to try again in a month.

20 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

Oh oh, carnival closed bookings on every November Mardi Gras sailing. All you can do is get on a wait list. Limited capacity seems to have been reached.

 

Maybe your ta has some group space, your best hope.

Thanks for the info firefly333  😃 & Joe817 😄.   Looks like this is going to be a uphill battle 🙃.   I called the big box membership store, and they are not taking calls-at-all in relation to cruises.   "Due to unprecedented call volume in relation to cruises, we are not taking calls, thank you and good bye"      

On a booked Mardi Gras cruise in November.  Originally booked this through Costco.   Is it best to try through Costco to pay for  a upgrade?  Or Contact Carnival.   Try every day?   Anyone been successful at a scenario like this?  I'm not worried about price.  Just changed my mind on the interior thing.

Thanks

3 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

this. There are staff coming off holiday and the start up is not t

That's super, they are keeping everyone employed then.  No layoffs or furloughs.  That's outstanding.