NCL Dawn limping from port to port

[david_sobe]

You know full well that the Dawn is sailing completely on schedule since that one fated cruise. Keep stirring. :confused:

 

PE

Keep stirring?

Is that not a logical question?

 

I am silver NCL and loyal member and posted positive reviews of all NCL cruises (take a look and see). It is a shame that asking a question, someone goes below the belt and trys to create trouble on the board by asking a question if the latest Dawn cruise had any cancelled ports.

 

yes shame on me for asking a logical question. Some want to stop people from sharing their cruise experiences or asking questions about ships. Very sad :(

[sjbdtz]

Keep stirring?

Is that not a logical question?

 

I am silver NCL and loyal member and posted positive reviews of all NCL cruises (take a look and see). It is a shame that asking a question, someone goes below the belt and trys to create trouble on the board by asking a question if the latest Dawn cruise had any cancelled ports.

 

yes shame on me for asking a logical question. Some want to stop people from sharing their cruise experiences or asking questions about ships. Very sad :(

 

 

If you had read the thread, you would have seen the post confirming that the 3rd engine was repaired and itineraries were back to normal...

 

You would also have seen that the cruise after the one which missed the ports, was cruising at 18.1 knots, and making its ports.

 

I know, because I read the thread, and that's what I learned.

 

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[swedish weave]

Has anyone been able to find the percentage or number of cruises in which the Dawn has changed itineraries due to mechanical or engine failures ? I asked the question a couple of days ago, and haven't seen a response. I believe that would put the questions about the Dawn in the proper perspective. Many comments, but no facts yet.

[Planer's Edge]

Has anyone been able to find the percentage or number of cruises in which the Dawn has changed itineraries due to mechanical or engine failures ? I asked the question a couple of days ago, and haven't seen a response. I believe that would put the questions about the Dawn in the proper perspective. Many comments, but no facts yet.

 

My guess is that the number is pretty low, considering the Dawn has been sailing since December 7, 2002. The only mechanical failures I remember are pretty recent history. There was the adrift at sea near San Juan a year or so ago and then the "head" damage back in August and now this one. Did she ever suffer any bearing problems in the Azipods?

 

I have been on her 4 times for a total of 54 days and did not miss a single port.

 

PE

[swedish weave]

My guess is that the number is pretty low' date=' considering the Dawn has been sailing since December 7, 2002. The only mechanical failures I remember are pretty recent history. There was the adrift at sea near San Juan a year or so ago and then the "head" damage back in August and now this one. Did she ever suffer any bearing problems in the Azipods?[/color']

 

I have been on her 4 times for a total of 54 days and did not miss a single port.

 

PE

 

PE -- Thanks for the information. It indicates the Dawn is a good ship with only a couple of failures besides the normal wear and tear.

 

The azipod bearing problems are not unusual and have happened on several cruise ships. I was told that they have been re-designed so the bearings are accessable from inside and the newer models can be fixed without drydocking the ship.

[kkelle17]

In case anyone is interested - an update from Twitter, someone currently sailing on the Dawn to Samana now.

 

 

@kiter4L

"Cruising along at 20+ knots. Should reach Samana on time :)"

1 hour ago

[UATLB]

for all those who r saying to bad this is what u get u read the book and contract blah blah blah how would u like it if u or children got on an airplane with 1 engine not working 1 on the fritz and they say don't worry you'll make it from Miami to Alaska no problems????

 

nothing for nothing but if they are having problems with there equipment and they know it they should just cancel all cruise's and fix it. it would b alot less complaints from disgruntle customers this way

[swedish weave]

for all those who r saying to bad this is what u get u read the book and contract blah blah blah how would u like it if u or children got on an airplane with 1 engine not working 1 on the fritz and they say don't worry you'll make it from Miami to Alaska no problems????

 

nothing for nothing but if they are having problems with there equipment and they know it they should just cancel all cruise's and fix it. it would b alot less complaints from disgruntle customers this way

 

Just to update you on the Dawn. The ship is fully functional now with the engines that are running.

[musicgal]

Well, here's a short history of Dawn, and some of the problems she's had over the years. She seems like a beautiful ship and I hope she gets a great overhaul in May.

 

 

Kim Cattrall of Sex and the City christens Dawn- 2002

 

Feb. 7, 2005 Dawn was re-routed after Great Stirrup Cay due to engine problems -- it was reported to be running on only one azipod prop. The port of Nassau was canceled so the cruise could end on-time in NYC.

 

Rogue wave hits and damages Dawn- April 15th, 2005

 

 

November 21, 2006- Dawn made an unscheduled stop at Norfolk because of a problem with its propulsion system and poor weather off North Carolina that blocked its route from New York to Florida. The ship arrived at 6:45 PM today and is expected to leave tomorrow at 5:00 PM. As of Tuesday- Departure set back until Wednesday at 5 PM at the earliest -- repairs undertaken. Passengers have been offered a full refund, plus 25% off a future cruise based on what they paid on this cruise, plus a $100 per stateroom onboard credit. They have also been offered a charter bus for return to NYC Tuesday evening, for those wishing to go home.

 

Late May, early June 2007- drydock in Boston... accidental fire in the hull.

 

November 27, 09- Passengers report that Dawn completely lost all power and Coast Guard ships and helicopters were dispatched to the scene. All activities on board the ship were cancelled Friday and the ship is headed to the port of San Juan in Puerto Rico, not Miami, this morning. Passengers were told they would have to make accommodations to return to Miami, but were offered a 70% discount and credits of 50% on future cruises. NCL also offered to pay for hotel accommodations and airfare. During the power outage, the more than 2,000 passengers on the ship had no access to running water, electricity air conditioning or toilet services in the hot Caribbean.

 

August 27, 2010-Dawn had its stay in Bermuda cut short due to engine problems. The ship left Bermuda about 11 hours early as extra time was needed for the ship’s return journey to NYC. The ship had to travel at a reduced speed due to technical difficulties with one of the ship’s engines.

 

NCL issues a letter describing the concerns- Fall 2010

October22-April22nd 2010-11 time period.

Norwegian Dawn has experienced technical difficulties with one of her engines. As a result, Norwegian Dawn will be traveling at a reduced speed. At Norwegian Cruise Line, the safety and security of our guests is our number one priority. Please be assured that the engine issues reducing our speed capabilities in no way impact the safe operation of the vessel. Based on this reduced speed, we have changed the itinerary as noted ...

 

Scheduled May drydock-

[swedish weave]

Well, here's a short history of Dawn, and some of the problems she's had over the years. She seems like a beautiful ship and I hope she gets a great overhaul in May.

 

 

Kim Cattrall of Sex and the City christens Dawn- 2002

 

Feb. 7, 2005 Dawn was re-routed after Great Stirrup Cay due to engine problems -- it was reported to be running on only one azipod prop. The port of Nassau was canceled so the cruise could end on-time in NYC.

 

Rogue wave hits and damages Dawn- April 15th, 2005

 

 

November 21, 2006- Dawn made an unscheduled stop at Norfolk because of a problem with its propulsion system and poor weather off North Carolina that blocked its route from New York to Florida. The ship arrived at 6:45 PM today and is expected to leave tomorrow at 5:00 PM. As of Tuesday-Departure set back until Wednesday at 5 PM at the earliest -- repairs undertaken. Passengers have been offered a full refund, plus 25% off a future cruise based on what they paid on this cruise, plus a $100 per stateroom onboard credit. They have also been offered a charter bus for return to NYC Tuesday evening, for those wishing to go home.

 

Late May, early June 2007- drydock in Boston... accidental fire in the hull.

 

November 27, 09- Passengers report that Dawn completely lost all power and Coast Guard ships and helicopters were dispatched to the scene. All activities on board the ship were cancelled Friday and the ship is headed to the port of San Juan in Puerto Rico, not Miami, this morning. Passengers were told they would have to make accommodations to return to Miami, but were offered a 70% discount and credits of 50% on future cruises. NCL also offered to pay for hotel accommodations and airfare. During the power outage, the more than 2,000 passengers on the ship had no access to running water, electricity air conditioning or toilet services in the hot Caribbean.

 

August 27, 2010-Dawn had its stay in Bermuda cut short due to engine problems. The ship left Bermuda about 11 hours early as extra time was needed for the ship’s return journey to NYC. The ship had to travel at a reduced speed due to technical difficulties with one of the ship’s engines.

 

NCL issues a letter describing the concerns- Fall 2010

October22-April22nd 2010-11 time period.

Norwegian Dawn has experienced technical difficulties with one of her engines. As a result, Norwegian Dawn will be traveling at a reduced speed. At Norwegian Cruise Line, the safety and security of our guests is our number one priority. Please be assured that the engine issues reducing our speed capabilities in no way impact the safe operation of the vessel. Based on this reduced speed, we have changed the itinerary as noted ...

 

Scheduled May drydock-

 

Thank you for the information.

 

It is interesting that the problems indicated in the letter from NCL resulted in loss of 30 minutes to 1 hur change in schedule at some ports. Otherwise, the 11 hour change at Bermuda and the most recent schedule change that created all the furor are most serious problems the Dawn has encountered due to recent engine problems. The complete loss of power was the result of electrical problems and not associated with the failed engine.

 

Thanks again for the info !!

[lovelights]

Wow, I wish we would have gotten an OBC like that. We went on a 5 day, only went to 1 port, got only a $17.00 per person obc refunded, and then had a late night stop in Key West due to an emergency drop off, which caused the casino and shopping to close down during that time. Then to make things worse, we arrived back in Miami very late, and was still standing on the promenade deck, waiting to get off the ship at 11:00am. And..... after all of this... we still had a wonderful time. We must have only had 1 engine down when we went, yet when we checked the television, it indicated that we were going 24.5 knots. That's pretty fast to have 1 engine down. We didn't even know the ship could go that fast to begin with. This was about 10 weeks ago though, when we were on Dawn.

[bigtree01]

As the person that originally started the Dawn Alert post I would like to thank everyone that has contributed. I've learned a lot, especially from Halo and Dr. Jack Daniels. You guys have a very good insight to cruising and I appreciate that you shared in such a positive way. It has given me a lot of things to consider before I book my next vacation.

I'd also like to thank my fellow passengers from the Dawn for posting their experiences, both positive and negative. It takes a lot of character to post your experience knowing you'll be flamed by the NCL cheerleaders or anyone that doesn't agree with you.

As for my experiences I have to agree with Boo and Nan's post, and the many other actual passengers that felt NCL was dishonest in their dealings with us. NCL knew prior to our sailing and could have notified us prior to boarding. NCL knew that our last two ports were not reachable prior to sailing unless the engine repairs were successful and they chose not to inform us. NCL took a calculated risk with our vacation and failed. Worse than that, when the announcement was made, after leaving port, it was made in the light that we were skipping the first port so that we could make the rest. No mention was made that the last two ports would be changed if the engine repairs were not completed in time. NCL had the duty and obligation to inform its passengers prior to sailing of the changed itinerary, and possibility of further changes and choice not to do so. They certainly did not act in good faith, and have therefore negated the contract we all signed. And finally NCL's letter from the Captain saying we were all given the option to cancel prior to our leaving port was another calculated risk hoping to convince passengers that we have no recourse or options available beyond what they have already offered.

In closing I’d like to say shame on you NCL for taking such a chance with our vacation and for treating your guests in such an unsavory fashion. You could have done much better but due to the fear of cancellations and in the name of corporate greed you chose not to do the right thing.

[fin]

Well, here's a short history of Dawn, and some of the problems she's had over the years. She seems like a beautiful ship and I hope she gets a great overhaul in May.

 

 

Kim Cattrall of Sex and the City christens Dawn- 2002

 

Feb. 7, 2005 Dawn was re-routed after Great Stirrup Cay due to engine problems -- it was reported to be running on only one azipod prop. The port of Nassau was canceled so the cruise could end on-time in NYC.

 

Rogue wave hits and damages Dawn- April 15th, 2005

 

 

November 21, 2006- Dawn made an unscheduled stop at Norfolk because of a problem with its propulsion system and poor weather off North Carolina that blocked its route from New York to Florida. The ship arrived at 6:45 PM today and is expected to leave tomorrow at 5:00 PM. As of Tuesday-Departure set back until Wednesday at 5 PM at the earliest -- repairs undertaken. Passengers have been offered a full refund, plus 25% off a future cruise based on what they paid on this cruise, plus a $100 per stateroom onboard credit. They have also been offered a charter bus for return to NYC Tuesday evening, for those wishing to go home.

 

Late May, early June 2007- drydock in Boston... accidental fire in the hull.

 

November 27, 09- Passengers report that Dawn completely lost all power and Coast Guard ships and helicopters were dispatched to the scene. All activities on board the ship were cancelled Friday and the ship is headed to the port of San Juan in Puerto Rico, not Miami, this morning. Passengers were told they would have to make accommodations to return to Miami, but were offered a 70% discount and credits of 50% on future cruises. NCL also offered to pay for hotel accommodations and airfare. During the power outage, the more than 2,000 passengers on the ship had no access to running water, electricity air conditioning or toilet services in the hot Caribbean.

 

August 27, 2010-Dawn had its stay in Bermuda cut short due to engine problems. The ship left Bermuda about 11 hours early as extra time was needed for the ship’s return journey to NYC. The ship had to travel at a reduced speed due to technical difficulties with one of the ship’s engines.

 

NCL issues a letter describing the concerns- Fall 2010

October22-April22nd 2010-11 time period.

Norwegian Dawn has experienced technical difficulties with one of her engines. As a result, Norwegian Dawn will be traveling at a reduced speed. At Norwegian Cruise Line, the safety and security of our guests is our number one priority. Please be assured that the engine issues reducing our speed capabilities in no way impact the safe operation of the vessel. Based on this reduced speed, we have changed the itinerary as noted ...

 

Scheduled May drydock-

 

To this add Nov 2004. Azipod problems. Unscheduled stop in St Croix. Planned skipping of Tortola later changed to add it back in as a stop.

[Posstman]

My wife, son and I were on the Dawn for the 9-day sailing which left Miami on February 11th - 20th and not only were 3 of the 5 ports cancelled, there was a fire aboard at 11:40p.m. the Thursday night at sea and everybody was aware of it. The Captain called an emergency BRAVO signal, the bells and alarms went off and decks 4 and 5 were evacuated. My wife and son were crying and I met a lot of other parents whose kids were scared, too. And that's just the very least of it!

 

sMy wife is a flight attendant so we never really know in advance what our vacation periods will be. We booked at the last minute and were unaware of the engine problems plaguing the Dawn...we met the Captain and his crew at a private cocktail the second night out as we were in one of the fancy Penthouse Suites, #11060. At first glance it was a beautiful suite with 2 bathrooms and 2 bedrooms....but it was threadbare and tired. the couches and chairs were worn and torn.

 

At that first cocktail, we learnt from the Captain and Chief Engineer that engine #4 had been out since last fall while engine #3 failed the week before we boarded...but it did not affect that cruise as it was a short, private cruise with the Bare Naked Ladies. But no one at NCL ever told us about it....and they seemed comfortable so we said nothing to anybody...

 

The Captain only announced as we left Miami that Friday afternoon, that we would not be able to run at their normal speed of about 24 knots as one engine was down and we would have an extra day at sea, and miss our first port of call, the Dominican Republic. For that, we were offered a ship-board credit of $100 per cabin. I winced and kept my mouth shut. I had booked a brunch with friends, but contacted them via email and cancelled.

 

Our first stop in Tortola was uneventful. At our second stop in Antigua, the Internet went down on the ship so we could not contact the driver we had set up for our tour. That afternoon, just as we left the dock, the Captain again announced that the eingine could not be repaired, so we could not make our stops in Barbados nor St. Kitts and would go to St. Maarten and St. Thomas instead. Now I was really pissed. If I had wanted to go to those islands, I would have booked those islands....

 

Since we had already visited those islands 4 times by ship already, we were not happy. Another $100 on-board credit did nothing for me. I paid almost $6,000.00 for a fancy tired old suite and to go to the 5 ports of call that we wanted to visit...and 3 were already cancelled. Moreover, the Captain told us that we would have to leave St. Thomas at 2:00 p.m. if we were to make it home to Miami for that Sunday at 8:00a.m....so an additional day at sea for nothing.

 

Thankfully, after hundreds of us complained, we left at 5:00p.m.

 

What is $200.00 per cabin going to give me when I paid 6 G's for this trip? When we arrived in St. Maarten, there were 6 other ships at Harbour Point (that famous T-Shirt emporium) including RCCL's Oasis of the Seas and another 5 ships in the old town port so more than 35,000 tourists in 95 degree weather and we were supposed to be in Barbados. Most of us onboard were really upset.

 

Hundreds of us lined up at the Concierge offices that same night only to be told there was nothing they could do. They suggested we contact the NCL Head Office at the end of our trip. When I called the NCL Customer Service line, they pretended they knew nothing of the problem...and that there was never a fire aboard. WHOA THERE!!! What's up with that?

 

Most modern cruise ships have 3 bow thrusters and 3 stern pods that can rotate 360 degrees. They also have 4 engines and can operate easily on 3. The NCL Dawn had lost one last fall and now we were running on 2.5 so their claim of an undisclosed engine problem is full of baloney. NCL had sent out an email last September telling of this engine #4 problem. The NCL Dawn is already scheduled for dry-dock maintenence in May 2011. THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS IN MAY 2010 and had engine 4 been operating normally, we would have all had a great time. Instead, they decided to be greedy and run the ship into the ground so to speak.

 

While we stay an extra day or two at sea, they make money on drinks, etc.

 

BE AWARE THAT THE NCL DAWN IS HAVING SEVERE ENGINE PROBLEMS THAT MAY AFFECT YOUR CRUISE!!!

 

If i had wanted to go again to St. Maarten and St. Thomas, I would have booked it. I specifically booked 5 new ports of call for a reason.

 

BE WARNED!

[swedish weave]

In order to offset some of the totally negative posts, I will state that the Dawn completed a 5 day cruise without problems and is now on the way to Samana and is on schedule.

 

No doubt some of those on the cruise that was diverted had a bad experience, but the problem that caused the diversion is fixed.

 

 

Current position of M/S Norwegian Dawn: Under way from Miami to Samana Bay

 

Departure was 1 d 4 hrs 45 min ago. (at 16:00 h local time)

Arrival will be in 13 hrs 15 min. (at 11:00 h local time)

Traveled distance since Miami: 548.36 nm (1,015.56 km)

Remaining distance to Samana Bay: 248.88 nm (460.92 km)

[wendanra]

Thanks for your words swedish weave. All this doom and gloom is very stressful to an upcoming, first-time cruiser on the Dawn. From the previous post, it sounds like it's a hopeless situation and there's no way this ship is going to make it through another cruise. At least I don't have any comparisons and I haven't been to certain ports multiple times, since I've never cruised before. I'm going to be positive and we (my mom, Aunt, and I) are going to have a great time and... hopefully we make it into Cayman and Cozumel!

[corinnv]

I just returned from the 5 day Dawn cruise. We had a great time! It was "uneventful" and we had smooth sailing. :DWell, the only weird thing that happened was when security called the room twice to ask my husband if I was on board. (we were getting ready to leave Grand Cayman).

 

 

In order to offset some of the totally negative posts, I will state that the Dawn completed a 5 day cruise without problems and is now on the way to Samana and is on schedule.

 

No doubt some of those on the cruise that was diverted had a bad experience, but the problem that caused the diversion is fixed.

 

 

Current position of M/S Norwegian Dawn: Under way from Miami to Samana Bay

 

Departure was 1 d 4 hrs 45 min ago. (at 16:00 h local time)

Arrival will be in 13 hrs 15 min. (at 11:00 h local time)

Traveled distance since Miami: 548.36 nm (1,015.56 km)

Remaining distance to Samana Bay: 248.88 nm (460.92 km)

[fin]

My wife, son and I were on the Dawn for the 9-day sailing which left Miami on February 11th - 20th and not only were 3 of the 5 ports cancelled, there was a fire aboard at 11:40p.m. the Thursday night at sea and everybody was aware of it. The Captain called an emergency BRAVO signal, the bells and alarms went off and decks 4 and 5 were evacuated. My wife and son were crying and I met a lot of other parents whose kids were scared, too. And that's just the very least of it!

 

sMy wife is a flight attendant so we never really know in advance what our vacation periods will be. We booked at the last minute and were unaware of the engine problems plaguing the Dawn...we met the Captain and his crew at a private cocktail the second night out as we were in one of the fancy Penthouse Suites, #11060. At first glance it was a beautiful suite with 2 bathrooms and 2 bedrooms....but it was threadbare and tired. the couches and chairs were worn and torn.

 

At that first cocktail, we learnt from the Captain and Chief Engineer that engine #4 had been out since last fall while engine #3 failed the week before we boarded...but it did not affect that cruise as it was a short, private cruise with the Bare Naked Ladies. But no one at NCL ever told us about it....and they seemed comfortable so we said nothing to anybody...

 

The Captain only announced as we left Miami that Friday afternoon, that we would not be able to run at their normal speed of about 24 knots as one engine was down and we would have an extra day at sea, and miss our first port of call, the Dominican Republic. For that, we were offered a ship-board credit of $100 per cabin. I winced and kept my mouth shut. I had booked a brunch with friends, but contacted them via email and cancelled.

 

Our first stop in Tortola was uneventful. At our second stop in Antigua, the Internet went down on the ship so we could not contact the driver we had set up for our tour. That afternoon, just as we left the dock, the Captain again announced that the eingine could not be repaired, so we could not make our stops in Barbados nor St. Kitts and would go to St. Maarten and St. Thomas instead. Now I was really pissed. If I had wanted to go to those islands, I would have booked those islands....

 

Since we had already visited those islands 4 times by ship already, we were not happy. Another $100 on-board credit did nothing for me. I paid almost $6,000.00 for a fancy tired old suite and to go to the 5 ports of call that we wanted to visit...and 3 were already cancelled. Moreover, the Captain told us that we would have to leave St. Thomas at 2:00 p.m. if we were to make it home to Miami for that Sunday at 8:00a.m....so an additional day at sea for nothing.

 

Thankfully, after hundreds of us complained, we left at 5:00p.m.

 

What is $200.00 per cabin going to give me when I paid 6 G's for this trip? When we arrived in St. Maarten, there were 6 other ships at Harbour Point (that famous T-Shirt emporium) including RCCL's Oasis of the Seas and another 5 ships in the old town port so more than 35,000 tourists in 95 degree weather and we were supposed to be in Barbados. Most of us onboard were really upset.

 

Hundreds of us lined up at the Concierge offices that same night only to be told there was nothing they could do. They suggested we contact the NCL Head Office at the end of our trip. When I called the NCL Customer Service line, they pretended they knew nothing of the problem...and that there was never a fire aboard. WHOA THERE!!! What's up with that?

 

Most modern cruise ships have 3 bow thrusters and 3 stern pods that can rotate 360 degrees. They also have 4 engines and can operate easily on 3. The NCL Dawn had lost one last fall and now we were running on 2.5 so their claim of an undisclosed engine problem is full of baloney. NCL had sent out an email last September telling of this engine #4 problem. The NCL Dawn is already scheduled for dry-dock maintenence in May 2011. THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS IN MAY 2010 and had engine 4 been operating normally, we would have all had a great time. Instead, they decided to be greedy and run the ship into the ground so to speak.

 

While we stay an extra day or two at sea, they make money on drinks, etc.

 

BE AWARE THAT THE NCL DAWN IS HAVING SEVERE ENGINE PROBLEMS THAT MAY AFFECT YOUR CRUISE!!!

 

If i had wanted to go again to St. Maarten and St. Thomas, I would have booked it. I specifically booked 5 new ports of call for a reason.

 

BE WARNED!

 

I feel your pain. Those who regard the advertised itinerary as a wish list will not.

[Posstman]

In all fairness to what I wrote about our cruise, the staff was very understanding, the weather was wonderful and the drinks were good. Yes, we were unhappy, but we have to say that we were at sea in sunshine and that's a lot better than being here in Montreal in February with snow up to our ying-yangs and the freezing temperatures.

 

But in all fairness to it's paying passengers, NCL did a miserable job of marketing its problems and solutions. The CSR rep that I spoke with even denied there was a fire onboard and seemed bored with me and my situation.

 

Frankly, in almost any other company, there would have been a much different attitude delivered to the customers. It just seems to me, at least, that NCL is so greedy that they just don't care about those 2,000 or so passengers since there are thousands more out there just waiting to board. Too bad....

[Sara_smile]

In order to offset some of the totally negative posts, I will state that the Dawn completed a 5 day cruise without problems and is now on the way to Samana and is on schedule.

 

No doubt some of those on the cruise that was diverted had a bad experience, but the problem that caused the diversion is fixed.

 

 

Current position of M/S Norwegian Dawn: Under way from Miami to Samana Bay

 

Departure was 1 d 4 hrs 45 min ago. (at 16:00 h local time)

Arrival will be in 13 hrs 15 min. (at 11:00 h local time)

Traveled distance since Miami: 548.36 nm (1,015.56 km)

Remaining distance to Samana Bay: 248.88 nm (460.92 km)

Why do you have to classify someone's cruise experience as negative? You were not on the same cruise.

It seems there are 2 kinds of posters. Those that share their cruise experience and those that chime in to tell them they are wrong.

I think it is disrespectful to those that take the time to share their experience with us.

How is it negative to report the factual events of a cruise?

[swedish weave]

Why do you have to classify someone's cruise experience as negative? You were not on the same cruise.

It seems there are 2 kinds of posters. Those that share their cruise experience and those that chime in to tell them they are wrong.

I think it is disrespectful to those that take the time to share their experience with us.

How is it negative to report the factual events of a cruise?

 

When someone posts to BEWARE or Cruise from hell about a ship that is now fixed and operating at schedule speed, I consider that negative and the correct information needs to get to those who access these boards for information.

 

Where did you see that I said they were wrong in reporting their cruise ? Nothing in my post says that. They are wrong to keep berating NCL because the ship had a bad cruise.

 

QUOTE ----

 

BE AWARE THAT THE NCL DAWN IS HAVING SEVERE ENGINE PROBLEMS THAT MAY AFFECT YOUR CRUISE!!!

 

 

BE WARNED!

 

 

YES -- That is negative to the max !!!!

[Sara_smile]

When someone posts to BEWARE or Cruise from hell about a ship that is now fixed and operating at schedule speed, I consider that negative and the correct information needs to get to those who access these boards for information.

 

Where did you see that I said they were wrong in reporting their cruise ? Nothing in my post says that. They are wrong to keep berating NCL because the ship had a bad cruise.

 

QUOTE ----

 

BE AWARE THAT THE NCL DAWN IS HAVING SEVERE ENGINE PROBLEMS THAT MAY AFFECT YOUR CRUISE!!!

 

 

BE WARNED!

 

 

YES -- That is negative to the max !!!!

I guess people can have different interpretations of written statements.

If I was on a cruise and experienced the same kinds of engine problems, I probably would say the same things.

Its funny because I dont see that as negative but valuable information.

It is known that Dawn is going to dry dock very soon. It is unfortunate the ship keeps having issues. But I just dont see the negativity because someone reports what happened on the ship.

But we can agree to disagree.

[halos]

As always, it isn't what you say, but how you say it.

There are people here who provide information and others who are alarmists.

[nausetms]

I have read this thread (and others) over the past week or so, trying to decide whether I should commit to my planned June 10 Boston to Bermuda cruise. Pay the balance? Cancel? My TA says that NCL told her there will be no construction once the ship leaves drydock ( I discovered the final word on the Norwegian Dawn's dry dock directly from Norwegian Cruise Line. The ship will go into dry dock on May 2nd until May 22nd. I received the 'blanket' statement of "the ship will receive product and hardware upgrades." I was also assured that no further construction or major renovations/modifications are undergone while passengers are onboard their cruise) If I've understood posts on CC correctly this may not be accurate, based on the experience with the Star and that some people posting on roll calls have had their forward cabin assignments changed. Some posters have said that they would not cruise on a ship right out of drydock. What's the consensus? I've never sailed with NCL (only Princess and Disney) so I'm interested in experienced cruisers would do. Thanks.

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I have read this thread (and others) over the past week or so, trying to decide whether I should commit to my planned June 10 Boston to Bermuda cruise. Pay the balance? Cancel? My TA says that NCL told her there will be no construction once the ship leaves drydock ( I discovered the final word on the Norwegian Dawn's dry dock directly from Norwegian Cruise Line. The ship will go into dry dock on May 2nd until May 22nd. I received the 'blanket' statement of "the ship will receive product and hardware upgrades." I was also assured that no further construction or major renovations/modifications are undergone while passengers are onboard their cruise) If I've understood posts on CC correctly this may not be accurate, based on the experience with the Star and that some people posting on roll calls have had their forward cabin assignments changed. Some posters have said that they would not cruise on a ship right out of drydock. What's the consensus? I've never sailed with NCL (only Princess and Disney) so I'm interested in experienced cruisers would do. Thanks.

 

Now, if it's inconvenient to change the date of your cruise then don't fret over it....Just because the ship will have just been out of dry dock does not mean 100% that there are going to be issues

But if I had the opportunity and it wasn't a big deal to do so, I would postpone the cruise until a bit later...This is just what I would do. I sailed a ship about 4 weeks after a dry dock (Carnival)...the complaints on here the weeks before I sailed were numerous enough to make me a little concerned because I had talked some people who had never cruised before into going with us, and I, of course, wanted things to be awesome for them. I felt I would have dealt with any post dry dock issues, but the burden of having talked folks into a cruise weighed on me.

As it stands, there were no issues by our sailing. Like I said, that was a month after the ship went back into service.

 

I also don't usually sail a brand new ship until it's been in the water for quite a while. No matter what, there are 'bugs' to be worked out.

But that's just me.