Costa Concordia SINKING

[kath00]

Sorry if this hillarious story has been posted on here already. This thread moves so fast I sometimes can't keep up!

 

Cruise Captain Says He 'Tripped' Into Lifeboat, Couldn't Get Out

http://news.yahoo.com/cruise-captain-says-tripped-lifeboat-couldnt-153914621--abc-news.html

[SomeBeach]

One suggestion as to how the ship might be righted.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/18/10185098-how-to-right-a-stricken-cruise-ship

[branchwater]

Sorry if this hillarious story has been posted on here already. This thread moves so fast I sometimes can't keep up!

 

Cruise Captain Says He 'Tripped' Into Lifeboat, Couldn't Get Out

http://news.yahoo.com/cruise-captain-says-tripped-lifeboat-couldnt-153914621--abc-news.html

 

How many more "lies" from this person? Coward.

[Cuizer2]

Here is an interesting piece on the route taken by this ship before sinking and the route taken by this ship a few short months ago ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pYvyuxZixYg

[sledhead]

Here is an interesting piece on the route taken by this ship before sinking and the route taken by this ship a few short months ago ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pYvyuxZixYg

 

Very interesting. Its pretty obvious that this Captain was showboating. Wether Costa new about it or not is another story. This incident does nothing to make me give up cruising. In fact im on The Serenade this saturday and im not nervous at all. This was an isolated idiotic and selfish act by the Captain and I hope he pays the rest of his life for it!!

[dmwnc1959]

Recovery team members standing on the side of Costa Concordia as seen on the LIve web cam 2:19am EST (8:22am local) on Jan 19, 2012

 

 

Recovery team members in small boat alongside Costa Concordia 2:25am EST (8:25am local)

 

[BalconyBumz]

Here is an interesting piece on the route taken by this ship before sinking and the route taken by this ship a few short months ago ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pYvyuxZixYg

 

 

I find this EXTREMELY interesting.

[SomeBeach]

What webcam site are you using?

Thanks

[GioRaf]

Could anyone answer a question: With a flooded engine room, could a ship still navigate under power???? By power I mean some sort of propulsion by propeller, azipod or thruster. We wondered if large ships' power plants are engineered to run even when flooded?

If the ship did have some kind of propulsion, which I doubt but perhaps so, and we now know the Captain was on the phone for nearly an hour after the crash, which officer was giving the orders to the Quartermaster on where or how to navigate the ship? Was the ship beached by design or was it wind and currents and divine intervention?

 

I had supposed that Schettino was influenced from what happened on Carnival Splendor a couple years ago when leaving los angeles (power loss). He supposed the ship could had been taken by tugs to the nearest port so the passengers could leave the ship totally dry.

But may be i'm wrong

[dmwnc1959]

What webcam site are you using?

Thanks

 

http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/olyckor/article14228292.ab

[BalconyBumz]

Here is an interesting piece on the route taken by this ship before sinking and the route taken by this ship a few short months ago ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pYvyuxZixYg

 

If this is really true and accurate, I find this unbelievable. This tells me that the Captain was pretty much doing what they always do through there and unfortunately, this time, someone got nailed and was unlucky not just showboating WAY out of the way of what it normally does.

[degarr]

As quoted on TV just before. "The captain accidently slipped into his uniform"

[DinghyRacer]

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As I see it, the advantage of being mustered in an assigned lounge (area) is that if your dedicated life boat is inoperable staff can direct/escort you to the appropriate location rather than scrambling to find a life boat. Disadvantage of this location is that you have to “follow the leader” to the life boat …..that is ok if I’m within eyesight of the leader but if I’m at the end of the line, I may not be following the correct person or the line is slower moving than my liking etc etc and then causes panic and pushing etc etc.

<snip>

 

Don't they have another member of staff following up the tail?

[GioRaf]

http://media2.corriere.it/corriere/content/Pdf/documento-gip-grosseto2.pdf

 

Here you can find copy of the official decision of the judge to deny the immediate arrest of Capitain Schettino.

 

I would like remember that in the Italian Law every decision of the judge that involve personal freedom should be motivated.

 

In the document you can find the motivation of the decision of the judge.

 

The persecutor affirmed that they will appeal this decision.

[GioRaf]

http://translate.google.it/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Fcronache%2F12_gennaio_19%2Findagini-anche-sulla-Costa-fiorenza-sarzanini_6a2c389a-426c-11e1-8207-8bde7a1445db.shtml&sl=it&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

 

I suggest you to read the translation of this article from the most important newspaper in italy on website version.

 

Seems the capitan was not alone on the bridge, he was seen with one unaccounted young (25) woman that was not on passenger list.

 

As i said long before, also seems that company have big responsability on the disaster of Costa Concordia.

 

I would like know your opinion

[brunolug]

Following reports and discussions on European and particularly Italian TV's I got to learn that apparently it is an unwritten habit by vessels (cruiseships and others) to "bow" in front of certain island and coastal areas. The "curtsey" consists in abandoning the official routes and to sail very close to the shores exchanging "lights salutes" with the village or town on that specific island or territory. Sometime the major of the town would reply to the ship's captain with a mail thanking for the "privilege of being bowed" (it happened with Concordia with the major of Giglio last August 2011). My question is the following: this silly, illegal habit, is also tollerated on all cruiseships (namely also those with Bermuda, Panama, Malta, British, etc. flags) or it is a mere "speciality" of Italian vessels??? Does Cruise Critic Organization plan to intervene with the Managements of the various cruiseships' owners in order to forbid such a terrible and dangerous habit??

[NancyJewel92]

http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/olyckor/article14228292.ab

 

Great site. Thanks for posting the link. :)

[Dafydd2]

Don't they have another member of staff following up the tail?

Sounds like a great idea to me - Ship is sinking so squeeze everybody into a single room with limited exits. Personally I'd rather go to my lifeboat station even if it was only to find that it was unusable and then be redirected - I think there would be less panic. I also don't understand how ships can even be allowed to sail without doing lifeboat drill. On a recent Princess cruise we had ours on the 2nd day, not very helpful if the ship sinks on day 1.:eek:

[Dafydd2]

If this is really true and accurate, I find this unbelievable. This tells me that the Captain was pretty much doing what they always do through there and unfortunately, this time, someone got nailed and was unlucky not just showboating WAY out of the way of what it normally does.

The captain may have taken this route before but it is against Costa rules as it took him within less than 500m of the shore. Last time he was lucky this time he wasn't. Do Costa or indeed any other lines ensure their orders are obeyed?

[Davyjonesrugrat]

Duplicate post - sorry

[peachpitts]

I have been watching this story on Italian tv and find it unbelievable how the captain also allegedly took his person computer with him off board, if he did that, I don't see him going in the water at all. I think he just made a very bad decision that caused this accident and he should have to suffer the consequences.

I was recently on a Carnival cruise to the W. Carib. and we had our muster drill at 3:30pm before departing Miami, Carnival apparently does the muster/safety drill before leaving the port on the first day. I think all ships should follow this rule. Also on this cruise we were arriving in Roatan and had to wait almost 2 hours to get into port because a Costa ship went in front of us (before he was scheduled) and the Costa captain had a hard time getting into port. Our cruise director jokingly said that we could loan them our captain to show them how it was done. I mentioned at the time that I wonder what kind of captain Costa hires if they cannot even get a ship into port correctly. When I head abou this accident afterward, it really confirmed that I would never travel with Costa.

Also we had a balcony cabin and after this accident, I would never cruise without a balcony from now on, at least you may have a way to get outside the ship, if you were in an inside cabin, you could be in trouble.

[Davyjonesrugrat]

.... will even throw in a captain at no extra charge....

They are trying to sell the boat, you put the Captain up too and there would definately be no interest lol.

[Jdun5746]

I have been watching this story on Italian tv and find it unbelievable how the captain also allegedly took his person computer with him off board, if he did that, I don't see him going in the water at all. I think he just made a very bad decision that caused this accident and he should have to suffer the consequences.

I was recently on a Carnival cruise to the W. Carib. and we had our muster drill at 3:30pm before departing Miami, Carnival apparently does the muster/safety drill before leaving the port on the first day. I think all ships should follow this rule. Also on this cruise we were arriving in Roatan and had to wait almost 2 hours to get into port because a Costa ship went in front of us (before he was scheduled) and the Costa captain had a hard time getting into port. Our cruise director jokingly said that we could loan them our captain to show them how it was done. I mentioned at the time that I wonder what kind of captain Costa hires if they cannot even get a ship into port correctly. When I head abou this accident afterward, it really confirmed that I would never travel with Costa.

Also we had a balcony cabin and after this accident, I would never cruise without a balcony from now on, at least you may have a way to get outside the ship, if you were in an inside cabin, you could be in trouble.

 

I was always lead to believe that a captain doesn't dock the ship but the pilot comes aboard and does it, same when leaving the port as soon as the ship has left the port the pilot disembarks? So being unable to dock the ship would be the fault of the pilot?

[King of Cool]

Gio Raf

http://translate.google.it/translate...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

 

I suggest you to read the translation of this article from the most important newspaper in italy on website version.

 

Seems the capitan was not alone on the bridge, he was seen with one unaccounted young (25) woman that was not on passenger list.

 

There are the same reports in other newspapers. The plot thickens but don’t count on a yet another scandal for our captain. But then again:

 

From la Republica

 

Meanwhile, it is yellow? on the presence on board of a mysterious woman who according to several witnesses was on the bridge with the captain and other officers. And 'blonde, Moldova and would not be part of the crew, not even among the passengers would be recorded. It could be the same woman who was up at 21.05 for dinner with the captain. Now the prosecutors are seeking for questioning.

 

At the magistrate would have said that the woman in question, there are indications that it is Moldavian, was a guest of another officer on the bridge and had been invited to attend the windows of the control panel lit up the show on the island of Giglio. Now prosecutors want to hear. Its presence, along with the phone call with the Commodore Mario Colombo who had dedicated the 'inchino ', could be a cause of distraction of the master and officers. Officers and commanders have available a number of discretionary places to invite, without the purser record it, friends and relatives. Here again the prosecutors want to investigate to see if there were other people on board are not registered.

 

From Leggo

 

 

 

[Milaandra]

I saw a post earlier that asked how many of you would cruis again, I'm wondering the same thing but somehow that post got lost.

 

I will cruise again, but I might bring an "Oz pack" The flashlight seems particularly useful. And rescued passengers who had their credit cards and passports got to go home that much sooner.

 

There was loss of life and every life is precious. I don't want to diminish that. But the loss of life was minimal compared with other type of travel and transportation accidents.

 

I think I'll take away these things:

1. I'll ask questions during muster drill.

2. I won't blindly believe the official announcements...if the ship has listed, I'm getting ready and I'm going up

3. I'm not waiting inside for long during an actual evacuation. If they don't come get us right away, I'll make my way to my actual lifeboat and if they can't launch, I'll head to the high point of the ship and wait near an exit while holding on to something.

 

And I admit, I'm a bit suspicious of the type of ship. Conquest class? Was that the one?