stella_mare Posted August 22, 2012 #2351 Share Posted August 22, 2012 saw this pic of the lifeboats today. quite powerful to me. memories and voices echo quietly within now. after ferrying so many to safety on that winter night, their stillness in a late summer field feels unreal. will they return to sea again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted August 22, 2012 #2352 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Ken, your 1:28 point in the video in a picture. http://framework.latimes.com/2012/01/14/cruise-ship-runs-aground-off-italy/#/8 Thanks Micki. Photo 22 of 64 from that set sure shows the hull deformation from resting on the rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniall Posted August 22, 2012 #2353 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Casey Anthony who was found not guilty of murdering her 2 year old child but guilty of check fraud for which she was sentenced to probation. Her probation ends at noon on 8/24. At the conclusion of her trial, the public believed she had gotten away with murder and polling indicated she was the mosted hated person in America. This is the "Court of Public Opinion" concept of which I've been posting. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48745916/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001 If she were to follow in the footsteps of her predecessor, O.J. Simpson, and leave Florida and break the law in Las Vegas; she'd probably draw the maximum sentence, just like OJ. Public finger pointing of guilt will follow her for many years to come. John Edited August 22, 2012 by Uniall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted August 22, 2012 #2354 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Balf .... why don`t you stop being lazy and go and find the answers that were given by CS and myself. Nah, can't be ar..d, I'll just take is as a yes. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted August 22, 2012 #2355 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Giglio web cam is not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaSmurfette Posted August 22, 2012 #2356 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Casey Anthony who was found not guilty of murdering her 2 year old child but guilty of check fraud for which she was sentenced to probation. Her probation ends at noon on 8/24. At the conclusion of her trial, the public believed she had gotten away with murder and polling indicated she was the mosted hated person in America. This is the "Court of Public Opinion" concept of which I've been posting. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48745916/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001 If she were to follow in the footsteps of her predecessor, O.J. Simpson, and leave Florida and break the law in Las Vegas; she'd probably draw the maximum sentence, just like OJ. Public finger pointing of guilt will follow her for many years to come. John Casey Anothony SHOULD have been a slam dunk case...somewhere in the investigation and/prosecution things got screwed up...mistakes made. But...just like ship's captains...the police and prosecutors are mere human beings and on occasions they screw up. Doesn't bring the victims home or their families "closure" or justice. But its just another case of mistakes being made by humans that are not perfect. It happens and lessons need to be learnt from it. Last night I watched "After the Last 48", it was a follow up of "The Last 48" about an horrific case in Memphis...that of Jesse Dotson.. http://www.abc24.com/mostpopular/story/Lester-Street-Murders-Victims-Brother-Arrested/hyiRLoWC0EShmkyhK9TjJA.cspx As much as Casey Anthony "got off" this time around, her time will come...just as it did with that arogant idiot, OJ Simpson. Dotson got his just punishment for what he did that evening in 2008...the death penalty is a rare event in the city of Memphis by all accounts, but Dotson definitely deserved it. Another case that has always had questionmarks....JonBenet Ramsey...again the police screwed up...again they are just humans, they are not perfect. Bottom line is that no matter how trivial the mistake, any mistake can be fatal if in the right circumstances. Punishment is fine...absolutely punish ALL who took a part in the mistakes...but most important above all else is to learn the lessons and change procedures & training in order to prevent it happening again...and that goes for failures in the justice system worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted August 22, 2012 #2357 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Giglio web cam is not working. Back working now. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted August 22, 2012 #2358 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Never heard of Casey Anthony! Balf ... does this face look bothered or does it care what you want to believe ? ..... :cool: the answer was given pages ago not just from me but also from CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted August 22, 2012 #2359 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Never heard of Casey Anthony! Balf ... does this face look bothered . Don't know and I sure don't intend to take a trip up the M62 to find out. I knew a bloke from Acci once, nice guy. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CtheW0rld Posted August 22, 2012 #2360 Share Posted August 22, 2012 is it too much to ask for poster to stay on topic, please? these other cases have NOTHING to do with the concordia. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella_mare Posted August 22, 2012 #2361 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Schettino speaks again. I'm not sure if this news teaser is from earlier today or from a couple of weeks ago. Do not see the full interview on the site yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka's Skipper Posted August 23, 2012 #2362 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I am sure, when they get the wreck upright we will see a lot of damage to that STBD side. All the months, due to her position, the bottom, the winds and seas, she has been grinding on the bottom. AKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max49 Posted August 23, 2012 #2363 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Did he say there was no other option except to get on the boat or die at sea? At least he had a choice, and every one else can fend for themself. Maybe he forgot he "fell into a life boat" And earlier he said he brought the ship within 50 or 60' ft of shore so people could swim that far. Oh his attorney either must be just thrilled with him, or they're letting him continue his self destruction. Edited August 23, 2012 by Max49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted August 23, 2012 #2364 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Max, yep, that's what he said, "no other option." The more he talks, the more he'll hang himself with the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted August 23, 2012 #2365 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I am sure' date=' when they get the wreck upright we will see a lot of damage to that STBD side. All the months, due to her position, the bottom, the winds and seas, she has been grinding on the bottom. AKK[/quote'] Which leads to the question of how much time may be added to the schedule. Ken, I had noticed the same about the webcam. Seems to have days where it just goes on strike. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted August 23, 2012 #2366 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The interview and the statement was very short in the clip shown and it would be interesting to hear the full interview to see what Schettino says before and after the bit that the news channel chose to show. The statement he made could be applied to anyone onboard the ship! "The ship was flipping over one side and you had no other option to go on the boat or to die at sea but still you have to leave" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaSmurfette Posted August 23, 2012 #2367 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Oh the joys of editing a taped interview...leave in the juicy bits, take out the boring bits and then take what is left completely out of context....not forgetting the translation on top too. Oh and Ctheworld.....it was your buddy Uniall who opened the door to Casey Anthony in this thread...so go take him/her to task, OK...thanks matey ;) It never ceases to amaze how easy we as a species have become in being led by the nose...the media tell us that the world is about to end...and some actually believe it... Yes...it's true....just Google War of the Worlds, Orson Welles in 1938...he had half of the USA in a blind panic over a radio play presentation. People actually believed that the Martians had landed in the USA!! Sheesh....if people are so guilible when it comes to Martians landing, heck, they'll believe anything and everything coming from the media ROFL....such as believing the footage of water running down the stairs and crew telling pax to stay away that was beamed all over the world under the banner that it was filmed on Concordia....when it was actually Carnival Sensation in 2009 after a waste pipe burst.....actually it was an apt clip to use wasn't it? Sensation(al) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max49 Posted August 23, 2012 #2368 Share Posted August 23, 2012 You have to involve the USA in every thing? I'm bummed, I totally missed seeing the Martians, I didn't even know they were here, but u did. Pretty nice people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella_mare Posted August 23, 2012 #2369 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Max, from my view point, Schettino's defense has evolved and shifted over time based on information made public (thanks to the media) including testimonies by his officers, investigative reports, etc. Things he did not quite say himself during his interrogation, have become a part of his public explanation six months later. In nearly the exact same words of another. "The ship was tilting..." "...there was no other choice but to jump or be crushed." I think that could have happened, but lo and behold, there just happened to be a lifeboat where Schettino fell. Other officers fell or jumped into the water because of the tilt and swam to shore. Schettino made it in with dry clothes and a cell phone in his pocket. (By his own words, CS- not the media.) Now, let's say Schettino DID fall or jump onto the lifeboat to avoid being crushed. Ok. I get that. I would, perhaps, also allow that he felt it necessary to ferry the 150 passengers on the lifeboat quickly to safety on land. So why didin't he take the lifeboat back to the SHIP and get back on board? And wait, WERE there any other passengers on his lifeboat? Why have we not heard from a-one? I did find the full interview in two installments up on that site, however, only the short news teaser is viewable in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniall Posted August 23, 2012 #2370 Share Posted August 23, 2012 You have to involve the USA in every thing? I'm bummed, I totally missed seeing the Martians, I didn't even know they were here, but u did. Pretty nice people? Max Not to worry. The US has had practice in confronting an alien invasion. We start with the 1776 call to arms: "The (Martians) are coming" ............:D John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserfanfromct Posted August 23, 2012 #2371 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The interview on Australia's 7News was from last month -- aired July 15/16 in 2 parts. That's the same interview he came up with the "Ghost" line referring to his soon-to-be-mistress-had-the-ship-not-wrecked. Here's a partial transcript :eek: http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/14243519/captain-breaks-his-silence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserfanfromct Posted August 23, 2012 #2372 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I did find the full interview in two installments up on that site, however, only the short news teaser is viewable in the U.S. Since this is one of the paid interviews, I don't believe it's available anywhere else in the world but Australia. I was hoping someone in OZ would upload it to YouTube so we could all have a good laugh! :D What part of the States did you say you're from? Do you sometimes go by another handle here on CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella_mare Posted August 23, 2012 #2373 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) What part of the States did you say you're from? Do you sometimes go by another handle here on CC? Oh, Cruiserfanfromct... now you want me to spoil the conspiracy theory? Actually, we are practically neighbors, separated by the Sound. And no, I go by no other handle. Edited August 23, 2012 by stella_mare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserfanfromct Posted August 23, 2012 #2374 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Oh, Cruiserfanfromct... now you want me to spoil the conspiracy theory? Actually, we are practically neighbors, separated by the Sound. And no, I go by no other handle. No conspiracy theories here. Not too complicated for a poster to pick up a second handle. That's all. Across the Sound via across the Pond? You definitely don't sound like the typical Long Islander to me. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserfanfromct Posted August 23, 2012 #2375 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) In other news, Giglio Mayor Sergio Ortelli imposes a new "landing fee" on ferries bringing in day tourists. He's charging a tax of 1 Euro per passenger. Doesn't sound like a lot but judging from all the day trippers Giglio has been getting lately, could be a nice lining to the municipal coffers. http://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2012/08/15/al-giglio-ferragosto-con-relitto-la-concordia.html?ref=search On a different note, Italian news report that a badly decomposed body has been found on the south end of Giglio. Appears to be a man in a motorcycle suit and unrelated to the Concordia incident. They think the currents brought him there. "Cosa Nostra"? :eek: Edited August 23, 2012 by cruiserfanfromct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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