luvtheships Posted July 18, 2014 #476 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) How do you know this for sure? For NCL UK cant come up with a definitive answer?The interpretation of the wording is somewhat grey? There is nowhere that says "commence on or after November 1" I am not in the uk. And it has been verified that Ncl cruises commencing on or after November 1 Just what has been posted and uploaded here on cc but as I do not know anything about Ncl uk except that they operate somewhat differently than Ncl USA well then I don't know what your answer would be You should keep looking into it if it matters to you Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited July 18, 2014 by luvtheships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytman Posted July 18, 2014 #477 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) It is per offense and people can be removed form the ship as well. I'm going to play by the rules so I don't have to deal with the consequences. I didn't see that in the policy it's per offense. Customer Service said its a one time "cleaning charge" and so does the written policy. You're saying its a fine but it's a cleaning charge according to NCL. Edited July 18, 2014 by vinnytman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macadian Posted July 18, 2014 #478 Share Posted July 18, 2014 If it isn't smoke wafting onto my balcony or into my room, I don't care. Ditto +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangler25 Posted July 18, 2014 #479 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I called NCL yesterday asking for an email address for Kevin Sheehan- and was told they don't have one- I had to mail a letter of complaint to him- which I did!! Interesting. I wonder how this also applies to the DOS's on 15 or the Haven sun deck on 15. I would think no smoking, but who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie008 Posted July 18, 2014 #480 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I am not in the uk. And it has been verified that Ncl cruises commencing on or after November 1 Just what has been posted and uploaded here on cc but as I do not know anything about Ncl uk except that they operate somewhat differently than Ncl USA well then I don't know what your answer would be You should keep looking into it if it matters to you Sent from my iPhone using Forums Thanks - I already had my reply direct from NCL PR today here on CC in another post We are fine for ecigs for all 14 nights of our cruise :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangler25 Posted July 18, 2014 #481 Share Posted July 18, 2014 So Mr Sheehan is saying- if you spend lots of money-ie. the Garden Villa- then its ok to smoke there- nice Mr Sheehan- nice to see the priority is health and well being and not the bottom line-cash!! Interesting. I wonder how this also applies to the DOS's on 15 or the Haven sun deck on 15. I would think no smoking, but who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted July 18, 2014 #482 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I didn't see that in the policy it's per offense. Customer Service said its a one time "cleaning charge" and so does the written policy. You're saying its a fine but it's a cleaning charge according to NCL. The written policy does not in fact say "one time" but I assume they only do one cleaning, after the offending passengers disembark, so they should only apply one charge. I wonder if they actually bother doing the cleaning when someone is caught using an unflavored e-cigarette. In that case the $250 could be seen as more of a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytman Posted July 18, 2014 #483 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I don't think Kevin is saying that at all. GVs have large sundecks -- maybe about 4000 sqft of private space at the top of the ship. Not sure how smoking would bother anyone on the star or dawn since they're not balconies. I know GVs on other ships have balconies off the rooms so they will probably say pax can't smoke there but on the sundecks and outdoor villa area they will be allowed. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubechick Posted July 18, 2014 #484 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I don't think Kevin is saying that at all. GVs have large sundecks -- maybe about 4000 sqft of private space at the top of the ship. Not sure how smoking would bother anyone on the star or dawn since they're not balconies. I know GVs on other ships have balconies off the rooms so they will probably say pax can't smoke there but on the sundecks and outdoor villa area they will be allowed. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Exacty. I can't conceive how other passengers would know if anyone was smoking on the private deck or private sitting area (and be bothered by it)...they can't even see those spaces. I agree that on the Jewel class ships the balconies off of the GV bedrooms would be off limits for smoking just like all other balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytman Posted July 18, 2014 #485 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I called NCL yesterday asking for an email address for Kevin Sheehan- and was told they don't have one- I had to mail a letter of complaint to him- which I did!! Really? I just did a search on CC this morning and someone posted his email address. I sent him an email and he responded in 5 mins from his Blackberry. Usually corporate doesn't want to announce the CEOs email address so you won't get it from customer service. I was shocked to even hear from him within 5 mins of emailing. I thought I might hear from his assistant 6 weeks from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nbsjcruiser Posted July 18, 2014 #486 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) If they don't want the job then they don't take the job Maybe they don't get a job at all but that is their choice Last I knew they don't chain the dealers to the tables And I can choose to gamble or not I am not paying a premium for the casino use but am paying it for balcony use Fwiw. None if this is about health anyway it is about not having to spend the money to retrofit the ship with advanced smoke detectors Sent from my iPhone using Forums I have to question your sanity. That type of attitude will hold no water whatsoever when someone who has worked in the casino for 4 or 5 years decides to sue a cruise line because they have lung cancer and that day will come. That would be akin to a car company knowingly making defective cars then saying, "well, you didn't have to buy it. Nobody forced you". This is why I laugh out loud at this new policy. It has absolutely nothing to do with safety and well being of anyone or anything other than the bottom line which is why they didn't ban it in the casino. Smokers gamble, the cruise lines know this. Ever been on a ship that has done a smoke free night? I was on a couple of Carnival ships that did that. You could fire a canon off in the place and not hit anyone. I guess all the high class non-smokers were too busy polishing their halos. Edited July 18, 2014 by nbsjcruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieAF Posted July 18, 2014 #487 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I have to question your sanity. That type of attitude will hold no water whatsoever when someone who has worked in the casino for 4 or 5 years decides to sue a cruise line because they have lung cancer and that day will come. That would be akin to a car company knowingly making defective cars then saying, "well, you didn't have to buy it. Nobody forced you". This is why I laugh out loud at this new policy. It has absolutely nothing to do with safety and well being of anyone or anything other than the bottom line which is why they didn't ban it in the casino. Smokers gamble, the cruise lines know this. Ever been on a ship that has done a smoke free night? I was on a couple of Carnival ships that did that. You could fire a canon off in the place and not hit anyone. I guess all the high class non-smokers were too busy polishing their halos. I don't go to the casino on smoke-free nights because I tried it...and the place still reeks. And my clothes reeked when I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippingaroundtheglobe Posted July 18, 2014 #488 Share Posted July 18, 2014 As an asthmatic, I welcome this change. Comparing smoking to over eating, or drinking too much, makes no sense. Your hamburger or vodka martini are not going to hurt me at all. Your smoke on the other hand could kill me. Bummer about the casinos, all indoor areas should be smoke free! IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbooden Posted July 18, 2014 #489 Share Posted July 18, 2014 As long as we are beating the horse fully... Everyone keeps saying the casino. I prefer to smoke outside no matter what. Are there designated areas outside? Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted July 18, 2014 #490 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Really? I just did a search on CC this morning and someone posted his email address. I sent him an email and he responded in 5 mins from his Blackberry. Usually corporate doesn't want to announce the CEOs email address so you won't get it from customer service. I was shocked to even hear from him within 5 mins of emailing. I thought I might hear from his assistant 6 weeks from now. He responded to my inquiry is less then 10 minutes and when I had a follow up question he said someone else will reach out to me and he cc'd them on the thread. Thats awesome that he did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted July 18, 2014 #491 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Naw' date=' don't think so. Despite everyone's egalitarian fantasies of NCL, GV occupants do/get what they want. ;)[/quote'] Welcome back to the trailer park. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted July 18, 2014 #492 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Me neither. You should ask them to send you that in writing. Otherwise the only way to be 100% sure you won't be kicked off for smoking is to ask the captain of your ship. Who knows, he could be a sympathetic fellow smoker :) (and I wonder where he and the other officers and the ship's crew are allowed to smoke). ETA: Looks like you got it in writing all right! :D I got mine in writing also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted July 18, 2014 #493 Share Posted July 18, 2014 We didn't ask to "have the right to smoke" I was just saying that was one of the things some in our group wanted to do! Oh My God! I'm sorry I posted anything! Being in the GV doesn't come with privileges...it comes with a very steep price tag, you pay for what you get! Don't be sorry Sheila, I am glad you brought it up because I emailed Kevin also so I guess it's the Gem garden villas only in my future. That is certainly not a bad thing. And to all the haters, yes money does buy perks, it's a fact of life and you should just get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytman Posted July 18, 2014 #494 Share Posted July 18, 2014 He responded to my inquiry is less then 10 minutes and when I had a follow up question he said someone else will reach out to me and he cc'd them on the thread.Thats awesome that he did that That's great that he's so open to emails. I was just sick of CS not knowing an answer, so who better then the person who most likely approved the policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted July 18, 2014 #495 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I have to question your sanity. That type of attitude will hold no water whatsoever when someone who has worked in the casino for 4 or 5 years decides to sue a cruise line because they have lung cancer and that day will come. That would be akin to a car company knowingly making defective cars then saying, "well, you didn't have to buy it. Nobody forced you". This is why I laugh out loud at this new policy. It has absolutely nothing to do with safety and well being of anyone or anything other than the bottom line which is why they didn't ban it in the casino. Smokers gamble, the cruise lines know this. Ever been on a ship that has done a smoke free night? I was on a couple of Carnival ships that did that. You could fire a canon off in the place and not hit anyone. I guess all the high class non-smokers were too busy polishing their halos. My sanity? Now that's funny and I should report your insult but I won't because you don't bother me However, I for one never said it was a health reason anyway and it was all about regs that would force the cruiseline to put in expensive upgrades Personally I don't care who smokes and if crew want to work in a smoke filled environment so be it Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted July 18, 2014 #496 Share Posted July 18, 2014 He responded to my inquiry is less then 10 minutes and when I had a follow up question he said someone else will reach out to me and he cc'd them on the thread.Thats awesome that he did that Unless he personally called and spoke to you it could have been any one if his assistants that responded Could have been him of course or maybe not Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangler25 Posted July 18, 2014 #497 Share Posted July 18, 2014 There is a basketball court directly behind the garden villa on the star- I've been in the garden villa- and staff and passengers use this area. I don't think Kevin is saying that at all. GVs have large sundecks -- maybe about 4000 sqft of private space at the top of the ship. Not sure how smoking would bother anyone on the star or dawn since they're not balconies. I know GVs on other ships have balconies off the rooms so they will probably say pax can't smoke there but on the sundecks and outdoor villa area they will be allowed. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyD'Augstralia Posted July 18, 2014 #498 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Welcome back to the trailer park. :rolleyes: Gee, Beav, I don't understand, I've never been to a trailer park.....are there rides? Edited July 18, 2014 by SydneyD'Augstralia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted July 18, 2014 #499 Share Posted July 18, 2014 That's great that he's so open to emails. I was just sick of CS not knowing an answer, so who better then the person who most likely approved the policy. Exactly, I was impressed with that. Even though I was upset at first I am fine knowing I can still book with them in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeaEwe Posted July 18, 2014 #500 Share Posted July 18, 2014 That's great that he's so open to emails. I was just sick of CS not knowing an answer, so who better THAN the person who most likely approved the policy. Good job! An answer directly from the source is always best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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