December/Christmas Onboard

[VASOXFANN]

You already have a Christmas tree why should you get anything else? This sense of Christian entitlement is very offensive to me.

 

I agree that a cruise should be free from ALL religious activities thereby being inclusive of everyone. I would then be able to have the choice to cruise all year and not just certain months.

 

 

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It doesn't take much to offend you, does it? :rolleyes:

[VASOXFANN]

And you know it's like this on the ship how?

 

 

 

It sounds to me like you somewhat enjoy being offended and look for reasons to be so. Good luck with that.

 

Yep. This.

[VASOXFANN]

Last year, we were on the Paradise in early December and they had "snow" in the atrium. It was awesome. Do you think they will do that again this year, maybe on the Sunshine?

 

Snow offends me :p

[thephillykid]

OH FOR PETE'S SAKE

 

As an educator, I know that exposure and experiences are VITAL to student learning. I could talk and talk about whatever I want to my 1st graders, but seeing it happening in real life will always be more meaningful.

 

Christmas Trees and Jingle Bells are NOT religious. The person who posted above me said it best, the Christmas that the ship celebrates is mass market media, NOT the Christian holiday. YOU are actually getting a more religious experience than is afforded to Christians (and I'm not complaining about it!) Until they have a nativity scene and you have to watch the reenactment of the nativity, you can stop complaining.

 

Santa and Christmas Trees are not religious. Some agnostics and atheists will choose to "do" Santa and Christmas trees and they are NOT Christian.

 

Your Menorah IS religious.

 

You are being ignorant. I certainly hope you do not approach your everyday life with the same "me vs. them" attitude you have going on right now.

FYI....

You are 100% Wrong.

The menorah is not religious and just a remembrance of a miracle that happened thousand of years ago.

It's a symbol, the same as santa claus is a symbol of Christmas.

Rudolph is a symbol of christmas.

Same as a christmas tree with angel ornaments on it.

Same as potato Latkas are a symbol of chanukkah.

Same as Jelly donuts fried in oil is.

[CarnivalPlatCruiser]

Can we PLEASE talk about politics instead? :D :D :D :D :D

[thephillykid]

How about alcohol?????

Egg Nog vs Concord grape wine.....

LOL

OMG

[Stacy_C]

OH FOR PETE'S SAKE

 

As an educator, I know that exposure and experiences are VITAL to student learning. I could talk and talk about whatever I want to my 1st graders, but seeing it happening in real life will always be more meaningful.

 

Christmas Trees and Jingle Bells are NOT religious. The person who posted above me said it best, the Christmas that the ship celebrates is mass market media, NOT the Christian holiday. YOU are actually getting a more religious experience than is afforded to Christians (and I'm not complaining about it!) Until they have a nativity scene and you have to watch the reenactment of the nativity, you can stop complaining.

 

Santa and Christmas Trees are not religious. Some agnostics and atheists will choose to "do" Santa and Christmas trees and they are NOT Christian.

 

Your Menorah IS religious.

 

You are being ignorant. I certainly hope you do not approach your everyday life with the same "me vs. them" attitude you have going on right now.

 

A Christmas Tree is not a religious symbol. I take offense to your sense of entitlement. Why is your religion any different then mine? I however, did not start this thread to debate religion. I was looking to see what my family might encounter on our upcoming cruise. If you want to debate religion please take it elsewhere. There is no need for it here.

 

Amen, amen and amen! Gosh, I hope my repeated use of the word "Amen" does not offend anyone...since it's religious and all. :rolleyes:

[rferr]

http://www.kosherica.com/

 

Maybe this would work.

[LandlockedCruiser01]

You'll probably also be witness to the Great Chanukah Debate-- which way to light the menorah. Left or right, whose left or right. The person in front of or behind the menorah. lol

There is actually a correct, rabbinically sanctioned way, so the word "debate" is well... debatable.

1. You insert candles from right to left, relative to you facing the menorah. (Skip this step for electric menorahs, which don't meet the ritual requirements, but are permitted for decorative use only.) The shamash, or the 9th candle separate from the rest, gets inserted first.

2. You light candles (or screw in light bulbs) from left to right, starting with the most recently added one, again relative to you facing the menorah. The shamash gets lit first (even a cigarette lighter is OK), and is used to light the other 8 candles.

Edited November 20, 2014 by LandlockedCruiser01

[Rosefloater]

They may be exposing themselves but if they don't know what it is about how is that helpful? I could stand around and watch some people turn on a few light bulbs and sing but if I don't know what it means then it will have no impact and not make me think. I won't have learned a darn thing. Do the people who want to "participate" know that next year Hanukkah won't fall on the same days so if they cruise every year the week of Christmas they may not see the same thing.

 

I don't think Carnival or any cruise line is trying hard enough. No mention of Hanukkah music being played at all during even the eight days of celebration. If they are going to do something then it should be all inclusive just as they are doing for Christmas. Are they serving latkes every night or only a select one? Why is there a special meal in the dining rooms on Christmas but the traditional Hanukkah brisket meal not served as a special selection? This is why I think they are treating it like an after-thought.

 

As an educator you should be more concerned that people are actually learning something when they experience something new.

 

It would be nice if Carnival would celebrate every religion's major holidays.

 

For Your Information - Carnival is doing a good job of recognizing Hanukah. Latkes and sides, wine and challah are served every night after the menorah lighting. During the Holiday show, the kids sing the Dreidel song. What more do you want? A present every night? Having

by Adam Sandler playing on the PA system?

 

BTW - Hanukah is not a major holiday. It is a minor holiday that has become quasi-major only because it falls near Christmas.

 

What is a traditional brisket meal? Our family has never had brisket for Hanukah.

 

Get off your high horse. If you want to continue to argue, then go over to the Cruising Jewish thread on the Floataway Lounge (http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2019032)

[illybell]

Now I'm a little worried...I'm a newbie and was hoping to be able to attend both sets of events. I'm of neither religion (Wiccan in fact) but I've grown up with friends in many religions and I'm no dunce when it comes to what happens and what things mean.

 

Now I'm worried about offending or upsetting someone by being there. I don't want to selfishly put a damper on their celebration. :(

 

 

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[VASOXFANN]

Now I'm a little worried...I'm a newbie and was hoping to be able to attend both sets of events. I'm of neither religion (Wiccan in fact) but I've grown up with friends in many religions and I'm no dunce when it comes to what happens and what things mean.

 

Now I'm worried about offending or upsetting someone by being there. I don't want to selfishly put a damper on their celebration. :(

 

 

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Don't worry. The only person on here complaining is obviously of abnormal sensitivity.

Edited November 23, 2014 by VASOXFANN