Maleeni Posted September 18, 2015 #126 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I think you would be surprised at all the improvements Carnival has made over the last few years...they just aren't in the form of little perks. Try comparing a ship built in the last 10 years with one built before then...its like apples and oranges. Some people only see the changes that they conceive as affecting them, they never look behind the barn door to see what else is offered them in safety, convenience, and activities. Good luck on your quest for a new cruise line that will match what you "love" about the old Carnival for the price you seem to want to pay. Many people like the layout and the experiences of those ships. Bigger isn't better, especially on Carnival. I thought it was all large ships till I tried another line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Clan Posted September 18, 2015 #127 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Many people like the layout and the experiences of those ships. Bigger isn't better, especially on Carnival. I thought it was all large ships till I tried another line. Not sure why people love the layout on most Carnival ships. The layout on Carnival ships is terrible. It's never made sense to me why every other line has figured out a way to make it to where you can walk bow to stern on every deck and not Carnival. I've never understood why one must go up a floor, walk to the next staircase, and then go back down to the deck you were on to get to a venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailincajunns Posted September 19, 2015 #128 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well, certainly can't say I am shocked by this change. Interesting, as well, that in some place they state that Carnival is removing the 'free' lobster from the menu. There never was FREE lobster, it was simply paid for in the cruise fare. Since they don't claim they are reducing cruise fares in relation to this change, it's more a case of you will no longer GET the lobster that USED to be included with your fare. I'd be very disappointed if I had a shorter cruise already booked, and they made this change 'after the fact' All that being said, I can see the day.......in the not too distant future, where the only 'included' meal option on any sailing will be the 'Lido' style-buffet dining, and every other venue (including what we now consider the 'main dining room' will have a 'service charge'. I think it's reached a point now where the desire to keep the 'base fare' affordable is beginning to change cruising from an 'experience' into just another 'vacation'. If Carnival Corp ever decides to let sailing days on ALL of its lines 'count' in some unified 'preferred passenger' program, I think perhaps it's time to consider some of their other brands. Really sorry to see Carnival take this turn.................and happy our next cruise is an 8 day. Of course, what's to stop Carnival from changing the 'game' AGAIN before that time? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2015 #129 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Never thought the lobster was that great anyway.Glad they are adding duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towel Critter Posted September 19, 2015 #130 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Having lobster taken away isn't huge to me - although I do like lobster. But it is disconcerting to see so many cutbacks at a time when Carnival's prices are steadily going up. At the rate things are going, it won't be long until a Carnival cruise is no longer the most attractive vacation option for those in the middle class, with a limited vacation budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCFTJCH2V Posted September 20, 2015 #131 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Scratching my head on this one. I still see no announcement, just a confirmation when asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted September 20, 2015 #132 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Not sure why people love the layout on most Carnival ships. The layout on Carnival ships is terrible. It's never made sense to me why every other line has figured out a way to make it to where you can walk bow to stern on every deck and not Carnival. I've never understood why one must go up a floor, walk to the next staircase, and then go back down to the deck you were on to get to a venue. Some you can, some you can't. Can on the Miracle and her sisters. Want confusing, try Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMEBEECH Posted September 20, 2015 #133 Share Posted September 20, 2015 This doesn't really surprise me since it takes a lot of people and a few days to get all the lobsters ready just to be cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARNIVALCRUISE3 Posted September 20, 2015 #134 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) I sailed 2 weeks ago on the Labor Day 3 day weekend cruise on the Ecstasy, and a man seated on the table next to us ordered 6 lobsters. Edited September 20, 2015 by CARNIVALCRUISE3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfwench Posted September 20, 2015 #135 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I sailed 2 weeks ago on the Labor Day 3 day weekend cruise on the Ecstasy, and a man seated on the table next to us ordered 6 lobsters. THIS, I suspect, is the reason lobster is out on short inexpensive cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammee Posted September 20, 2015 #136 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) THIS, I suspect, is the reason lobster is out on short inexpensive cruises. I agree. I think when they welcomed us to order more, they meant 2 maybe 3, not as an all you can eat entry. Wish they'd reconsider it with a limit, but I don't see that happening. Edited September 20, 2015 by sammee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiselovinmomof3 Posted September 20, 2015 #137 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Now if they discontinued Warm Chocolate Melting Cake then I might make a big stink about that and try another line! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARNIVALCRUISE3 Posted September 20, 2015 #138 Share Posted September 20, 2015 THIS, I suspect, is the reason lobster is out on short inexpensive cruises. I agree. They should set a 2 lobster limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARNIVALCRUISE3 Posted September 20, 2015 #139 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I agree. I think when they welcomed us to order more, they meant 2 maybe 3, not as an all you can eat entry. Wish they'd reconsider it with a limit, but I don't see that happening. They should set a 2 lobster limit. That 3 day cruise was full of rude people thinking that they're entitled to everything. I had never seen so many rude people lacking manners on a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARNIVALCRUISE3 Posted September 20, 2015 #140 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Now if they discontinued Warm Chocolate Melting Cake then I might make a big stink about that and try another line! :eek: I would have a fit if they discontinued the Warm Chocolate melting cake! It's so delicious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dioxide45 Posted September 20, 2015 #141 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Now if they discontinued Warm Chocolate Melting Cake then I might make a big stink about that and try another line! :eek: I would have to agree on this one. I order that just about every night. Chocolate Melting Cake with chocolate ice cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeofthedogs Posted September 21, 2015 #142 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Having lobster taken away isn't huge to me - although I do like lobster. But it is disconcerting to see so many cutbacks at a time when Carnival's prices are steadily going up. At the rate things are going, it won't be long until a Carnival cruise is no longer the most attractive vacation option for those in the middle class, with a limited vacation budget. I agree Towel Critter. I also like the lobster and am disappointed that it has been taken away for the shorter cruises. Would it be a deal breaker for me, no, but disappointing. With all the cut backs and changes Carnival has made recently it isn't the low budget vacation of the past. We have a cruise booked for early next year, but also are looking at A.I. for the fall. Times they are a changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towel Critter Posted September 21, 2015 #143 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I agree Towel Critter. I also like the lobster and am disappointed that it has been taken away for the shorter cruises. Would it be a deal breaker for me, no, but disappointing. With all the cut backs and changes Carnival has made recently it isn't the low budget vacation of the past. We have a cruise booked for early next year, but also are looking at A.I. for the fall. Times they are a changing. Sadly, I agree that A.I.s are looking like a more attractive option, especially September through December. I prefer cruising, but A.I.s can be enjoyable too, if you book a few excursions to break up the monotony of being at the same location for five to seven days. They have certain advantages over cruising too. You feel less rushed and have more time to really explore an area. I do prefer the feeling of excitement you get with a cruise of always being in route to somewhere new, but A.I.s are a close #2, so close in fact, that price could soon push them into the #1 spot for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare stevenr597 Posted September 21, 2015 #144 Share Posted September 21, 2015 When Carnival was known for being a party boat they made an attempt to update their services and reputation. Better boats, better shows, and much better food. One point of pride was that they promised to service Lobster at least once on every cruise, no matter how short in the main dining room. This had become a Carnival tradition, like their water slide. Carnival is now concentrating on being the cheapest line afloat. Their ships have become more crowded with a decrease in shows, service (American Tablet-no tablecloths), and quality of food. Although some cruisers will say the "new" menu looks good (is it real crab-probably not), this move is another sign of Carnival's "race to the bottom." What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieCharlotte Posted September 21, 2015 #145 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Sadly, I agree that A.I.s are looking like a more attractive option, especially September through December. I prefer cruising, but A.I.s can be enjoyable too, if you book a few excursions to break up the monotony of being at the same location for five to seven days. They have certain advantages over cruising too. You feel less rushed and have more time to really explore an area. I do prefer the feeling of excitement you get with a cruise of always being in route to somewhere new, but A.I.s are a close #2, so close in fact, that price could soon push them into the #1 spot for some. A.I.s don't work for us because we don't want to pay for alcohol that we won't drink --DH hates alcohol and I am a very moderate, take-it-or-leave-it drinker. If we could find an A.I. based on the cruise model, we would love to try it. My parents are very concerned about their favorite mid-price cruise lines going in the opposite direction, with free alcohol packages offered as "special deals." To me, lobster is symbolic of the classic cruise elegant night, which seems to be slowly disappearing from the cruise world in general. I'm guessing that Carnival believes people who book shorter cruises aren't looking for that type of experience and won't miss the lobster too much. My friends and I were among the only ones dressing nice every night on our four-day. This is just part of a general trend in society -- we recently visited a place that used to require dresses and ties and now turns a blind eye to all the patrons in jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towel Critter Posted September 21, 2015 #146 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) A.I.s don't work for us because we don't want to pay for alcohol that we won't drink --DH hates alcohol and I am a very moderate, take-it-or-leave-it drinker. If we could find an A.I. based on the cruise model, we would love to try it. My parents are very concerned about their favorite mid-price cruise lines going in the opposite direction, with free alcohol packages offered as "special deals." My wife and I aren't drinkers either (maybe 2-3 drinks each per week long vacation), and I suppose there is some allowance for the "free" alcohol built into the price of an A.I. Still, they are starting to look more attractive to me. Last time we couldn't find a balcony stateroom on a 7 night cruise, within the time frame we were looking, at a price we liked, we booked our first and only A.I. vacation, a seven night one, for slightly less than we would have been willing to pay for a balcony on a fairly new Carnival ship, if it had been offered at that time. It was our first experience with A.I.s and we both enjoyed it. We do prefer cruising, when we can get a balcony (within our vacation budget) on one of the nicer Carnival ships, but when that isn't possible, for us, A.I.s are now an attractive option. One might think that with all the free flowing alcohol at A.I.s, that many guests would be boisterous and annoying. We didn't find this to be the case at all though. The grounds never felt crowded and were gorgeous, the food was comparable to that on a ship, and the beach only a short walk away. Of course, as with cruises, prices are seasonal. Edited September 21, 2015 by Towel Critter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dioxide45 Posted September 22, 2015 #147 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) We did an AI years ago in the Bahamas. I really would never consider an AI again. We don't cruise for the semi AI experience, we cruise to see new places. We would be okay with a cheaper cruise far and pay a la cart for meals. When we travel outside of cruising, we like to experience the dining options the place has to offer. We have been to Cancun and Aruba twice each. Both places have lots of AI options, but I wouldn't consider doing AI in either place. Too many great restaurants in both places. I don't want to do a land trip that feels like a cruise because I am tied to the resort restaurants. Because we aren't heavy drinkers, I have compared land based AI to non AI and non AI usually comes out cheaper. We usually buy something at the local grocery for breakfast and snacks and only eat one main meal out each day. This works out far cheaper than any AI would cost us. Most of the AI cost is inflated to cover alcohol. Of course, consider that we are getting lodging for about $75-$100 a night using timeshare. Edited September 22, 2015 by dioxide45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgranny Posted September 22, 2015 #148 Share Posted September 22, 2015 You're crazy AI is way cheaper and if you do your homework like grand riveria princess w 13 restaurant 13 bars you can't compete w 5nights w alcohol food n air for $600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgranny Posted September 22, 2015 #149 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Plus thats w huge platinum room butler service on private beach n hot tub on balcony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgranny Posted September 22, 2015 #150 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cruises are NOT cheaper actually if daughter had her passport i wouldn't take a crappy crowded cruisr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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