Response re. George Smith's Disappearance

[mecb50]

I am so glad the Royal Carb. is talking back. I was outraged when I heard the family was going to sue. Having a drunken brawl (per the next cabin's complaint) and passing out in hallways is not the ship's fault. And then hearing he is a millionare:eek: As all of you have said...very fishy. And WHY would you tell the company not to inform you of any info, with the quote" I am lawyer"? Seems like these are all people I'm glad I didn't have the pleasure to cruise with. Mary

[woodofpine]

Whatever happened, those Smiths are a hard couple to keep up with! And cruise ships are MIGHTY hard to go overboard from; but being smashed one way or another helps!

[AFT_LOVER]

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[wolfganghowell]

I saw on one of the "news" shows that they had been living together 2-3 years so this was not a couple in the first throes of love. That would explain the lack of traditional honeymoon behavior. Of course explaining her body language and coyness is another matter entirely.

 

As a stockholder, I'm glad the cruise line released their statement. I knew there were flaws in her story and I'm glad to see a well documented controlled response. I hope they find out if it was foul play or just a stupid drunken fall and I hope people learn from this horrible event. As stated before, common sense is not a land based option - it should apply on land, air and sea.

[dkjretired]

apparently stating that she might have been drugged and that is why she was in the hallway. This report is on the John Gibson show on Fox.

[wolfganghowell]

She was seen drinking absinthe - that alone would knock someone out. Smuggled onboard absinthe I might add since the cruise line does not offer it and it is illegal in the US.

[TechKnowBabble]

apparently stating that she might have been drugged and that is why she was in the hallway. This report is on the John Gibson show on Fox.

 

YEAH RIGHT...if she was drugged then why wasn't she more upset about it when they woke her up? Or if she was supposedly still under the influence of it, then the next morning??

 

Sounds like a load of horsie doo-doo to me

[kitty9]

As far as being a "honeymoon couple", lets get real here. It's not like it was decades ago when the honeymoon meant something special. Couples today have been "active" for months, if not years, before they marry (and most of them have been "active" with many other people before they actually marry anyone), so a honeymoon today is nothing more than a vacation for most newlywed couples. It's not like anyone was having a "Grand Opening", on this cruise.

 

The wife sounds just a little too guilty when it comes to a lot of things. What about the sisters from Illinios who told the FBI that they saw the wife leaving the casino with the casino manager? What about the Russian men? And the missing husband bragging about how much money he had in his cabin? I hadn't heard about the husband sleeping elsewhere, but that's just too weird for words. And why didn't anyone see a young blond woman sleeping in the hallway before 4:30am? I've seen and heard security staff walking in the halls on Celebrity ships all evening long. It could very well be that she was being "active" with someone other than her husband and then just passed out while trying to get back to her cabin.

[TechKnowBabble]

As far as being a "honeymoon couple", lets get real here. It's not like it was decades ago when the honeymoon meant something special. Couples today have been "active" for months, if not years, before they marry (and most of them have been "active" with many other people before they actually marry anyone), so a honeymoon today is nothing more than a vacation for most newlywed couples. It's not like anyone was having a "Grand Opening", on this cruise.

 

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I had a 'Grand Opening' with a parade, balloons, and a marching band. *giggle*

 

I get your point but I think most people stay together for the majority of their time together. Having very vocal and physical fights, and not sleeping together some nights during a honeymoon is VERY out of the norm.

[smeyer418]

The FBI took hair samples to see if there was a drug that shows up in the system(cocaine and others would be found in hair). No report yet...Believe me they have a reasonable chance of knowing whether she was in fact drugged. She was examined by a female doctor who may also have taken fluids...

[woodofpine]

Although I don't think RCI is liable for anything here, the deal gets weirder... other criminal perps aboard... (pax or crew?)

 

read,

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10740178/

[Eliger]

Thanks for the link. Very interesting stuff!

[psychboss]

.....PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY !!!!....

 

If you act stupid ..**** happens. I have NO sympathy. Exactally what we told our daughter when she left for college. We raised you better, taught you better and you are smart not stupid, act stupid and you deserve what you get!

[Sky Sweet]

Fain from Royal Carribean is on Fox News "On The Record" right now.

[spearmint]

Although I don't think RCI is liable for anything here, the deal gets weirder... other criminal perps aboard... (pax or crew?)

 

read,

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10740178/

 

You are right; it gets weirder. :confused: Last night on Larry King, the husband's mother, sister( who is a lawyer as well, I believe), their lawyer and the wife's lawyer were on; then, separately, the Chairman of RCI and the guest relations woman who stayed with the wife were also on. The family insists that the room was full of blood, and the guest relations woman (Marie) says she saw nothing out of the ordinary in the room. The family insists that the company would not tell the family anything, but did not refute the company's position that the husband's sister told RCI not to contact them again.Naturally the family is suing RCI. The Chairman basically repeated what was in the RCI release, as far as the FBI wished them to comment, but he did say that he wished the captain had not made the statement (re: it was an accident) that he did. While the family seemed acrimonious toward the cruiseline, the personnel from RCI refrained from any negative comment on the wife, family or husband 's activities. The family lawyer insists that the cruise lines are continually covering up crimes on the ships so that business would not be adversely affected. No one really commented about the strange behaviour of the wife and it also seemed from her lawyer that the two lawyers were working together. Sounds like someone wants to stick it to RCI big time...

The whole thing stinks like last week's raw fish!:cool:

[rjg41]

apparently stating that she might have been drugged and that is why she was in the hallway. This report is on the John Gibson show on Fox.

 

You mean "John Gibson show on Faux News" don't you?

[dkjretired]

You mean "John Gibson show on Faux News" don't you?

 

no editorial comments about any of the news networks.

[Barry ATL]

I saw the MSNBC interview of the captain and Larry Kings' interview last night. I must say, the family is looking more and more like loons.

[C 2 C]

no editorial comments about any of the news networks.

 

My comment on a comment about networks was pulled on another thread..:confused:

 

Big Brother/Sister is watching closely for misteps on this one...:cool:

[Sky Sweet]

This tragedy has given me a better understanding of Celebrity's policy against passengers bringing their own liquor onboard. A crew member has the right to refuse to serve a passenger who appears to be intoxicated, but when people bring their own supply of liquor, the cruise line has no control over how drunk people get on their own. If this wife wasn't in such condition she would have had a lot of explaining to do, and not be able to try to blame it all on the cruise line.

[DancerOT]

Ok, seriously, I have an interesting question here. As other people have pointed out on this thread, a cruise ship is a floating town. Crimes of all types occur in towns. Why do people think that a cruise ship is any different? Why do people get a false sense of security because they are on vacation? As a 25 year old who just returned from a cruise where I stayed up until 5am (no I am not irresponsible -just have having a good time). I never went anywhere without someone I knew. I didnt leave my purse and camera with random people. I didnt drink random people's alcohol. I didnt put my drink down so that someone could slip something into it. I am responsible for myself and expect that something could happen - be it someone try to steal something from me or someone try to rape me. These things happen in towns and cities every single day. I am not saying that the widow is at fault or that RCI is at fault. I just think that more people need to realize that people who commit crimes are everywhere and people need to take precautions just like they do at home. As all of you cruise, please remind your loved ones that they need to be smart or as I say to my younger brother everytime he leaves for college "Dont be stupid". I will now step off of my soap box.

[madelinerose]

Attagirl!!! ;)

 

Ok, seriously, I have an interesting question here. As other people have pointed out on this thread, a cruise ship is a floating town. Crimes of all types occur in towns. Why do people think that a cruise ship is any different? Why do people get a false sense of security because they are on vacation? As a 25 year old who just returned from a cruise where I stayed up until 5am (no I am not irresponsible -just have having a good time). I never went anywhere without someone I knew. I didnt leave my purse and camera with random people. I didnt drink random people's alcohol. I didnt put my drink down so that someone could slip something into it. I am responsible for myself and expect that something could happen - be it someone try to steal something from me or someone try to rape me. These things happen in towns and cities every single day. I am not saying that the widow is at fault or that RCI is at fault. I just think that more people need to realize that people who commit crimes are everywhere and people need to take precautions just like they do at home. As all of you cruise, please remind your loved ones that they need to be smart or as I say to my younger brother everytime he leaves for college "Dont be stupid". I will now step off of my soap box.

[Happy ks]

So much speculation. It's just not fair that the "news" programs can say what they want, edit stories how they want them to slant the way they want and get away with it.

 

I feel very bad for the families, my sympathy is with them.

 

It amazes me that the family can accuse RCI of anything publicly. Isn't there some sort of gag order for preventing this type of public blabbering?

 

The link that is reporting the missing girl is amazing, with the statement in the first paragraph "a string of disappearances from cruise ships". What string? In comparison to everyday life, in every city in the world, there are far more "disappearances" or foul play than on a cruise ship. It does happen, yes, but why isn't every abduction of a child or grown-up given this same sort of publicity?

 

The biggest question, to me, is why do people jump to conclusions so easily, aren't we a little smarter than that? Not to mention, the more a story is told, the more it can be blown out of proportion.

[fabgourmet]

Hello, everybody!

 

I'm brand-new here (first posting!), I love cruising and love true crime and just stumbled upon this thread. Something strikes me as odd: Ok, let's assume the family's claim that the cabin was full of blood is correct- that means that Jennifer slept for four hours in a blood-filled cabin, awoke the next morning in a blood-filled cabin and, upon waking up with her new husband missing- decides to go for her his-and-hers massage without him (an hour and a half early nonetheless) and doesn't mention to anybody about the blood or go to search for him. Also means that the staff from RC just missed seeing lots and lots of blood in their cabin when they brought her back, passed out, and put her on her bed.

 

Also, she has claimed that her husband spent one evening away from her already on the cruise. Has there been speculation as to where he slept and why?

 

The whole story doesn't add up but particularly this claim doesn't add up- assuming the cabin was full of blood then her actions at the time are quite simply nothing short of bizarre.

 

Also, it hasn't been mentioned much here but a report published yesterday by the AP quotes 2 witnesses that claim the couple drunkenly argued and that Jennifer openly flirted with other men before she kneed her husband in the balls and walked away, later passing out elsewhere on the ship.

 

The whole thing stinks. Also note that the wife has had her husband declared dead and that she has become the executor of his estate. Makes you wonder....

[bubbie617]

As far as being a "honeymoon couple", lets get real here. It's not like it was decades ago when the honeymoon meant something special. Couples today have been "active" for months, if not years, before they marry (and most of them have been "active" with many other people before they actually marry anyone), so a honeymoon today is nothing more than a vacation for most newlywed couples. It's not like anyone was having a "Grand Opening", on this cruise.

 

My husband and I are married for almost 38 years and when we cruise, I always know where he's sleeping. Additionally, I have never been found sleeping in a hallway.

 

There's a lot more going on here than the Smith family is willing to admit. They act like Jennifer and George bear absolutely no responsibility for anything that may have happened on the ship.

 

I'm reminded of the movie "Titanic" where Leonardo DiCaprio is hanging off of the bow of the ship being the "king". Fortunately, he did not fall off - nor was he drunk at the time. Has anyone else thought about this scenario?