TahoeBob Posted February 7, 2006 #76 Share Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='jrm9999']Is that a small pic of Empress? That funny.[/QUOTE]it is the empress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 7, 2006 #77 Share Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='TahoeBob'][ATTACH]16250[/ATTACH] here is another pict of this ship this time with its new life boats[/quote] Very good! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefighterhoop Posted February 7, 2006 #78 Share Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='DHADEN']I just saw an announcement on the news about this ship. They say it will carry [SIZE=4]6,400 [/SIZE][SIZE=2]passengers, not 5400. That's a passenger / space ratio of 34.38, and that's not even including the crew/staff (will that add another 2,000???):o [/SIZE] [SIZE=5]no thank you.....:cool: [/SIZE][/quote] That is the Full Capacity. The double occupancy, (The number they figure the space/passenger ratio) is (or at this time is) 5400. Rccl has been Huge on the Guest/space ratio, so I don't see them doing anything other than catering to that aspect. Let's not count our chickens before they have hatched. All day I have been reading about people bashing the amenities of the ship, the public spaces, etc etc and all that has been released is the SIZE. Do I intend to go on this ship, HECK YA! If it is too crowded will I go again, of course not. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltilad Posted February 7, 2006 #79 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Well since it's the size of an Aircraft carrier (larger than the Nimitz clas according to MSNBC) does this mean it will have it's own flotilla task force?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatarb Posted February 7, 2006 #80 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I picture the embarkation/debarkation process taking two days. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piercetc4 Posted February 7, 2006 #81 Share Posted February 7, 2006 we would love to try this new ship- love the voyager class so will love this too- more to do and more places to go onboard- larger rooms and balconys- more pools, more restaurants and an enhanced promenade - can't wait !!!!!! Genesis, here we come....................only 3 1/2 yrs to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin priestley Posted February 8, 2006 #82 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I like the golf course idea but it will probably be only a par three course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TPKeller Posted February 8, 2006 #83 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well since it's the size of an Aircraft carrier (larger than the Nimitz clas according to MSNBC) does this mean it will have it's own flotilla task force?:) Interesting to compare. From http://www.nol.navy.mil/homepages/cvn68/shipsstatistics.htm we get: USS Nimitz Keel Laid: June 22, 1968 Launched: May 13, 1972 Commissioned: May 3, 1975 Propulsion system: Two nuclear power plants Main Engines: Four Speed: 30+ Knots Propellers: Four Blades on each Propeller: Five Aircraft elevators: Four Catapults: Four Arresting gear cables: Four Overall length: 1,092 feet Overall width: 252 feet Beam at waterline: 134 feet Area of flight deck: About 4.5 acres Full load displacement: About 95,000 tons Accommodations: About 6,000 persons Notes of Interest - Nimitz reaches over 18 stories high from the keel to the top of the mast. - The Hangar Bay extends for most of the ship's length. It is used for major repair and shelters the aircraft not needed for that day's flight schedule. - Four distilling units enable Nimitz engineers to make over 400,000 gallons of fresh water a day, for use by the propulsion plants, catapults and crew. - Nimitz' Food Services Department provides 18,000-20,000 meals a day. - Nimitz can stock at least 70 days of refrigerated and dry storage goods. - Literally tons of wash are done every day by Nimitz' laundry, dry cleaning and tailoring services personnel. - Nimitz' one barber shop trims over 1,500 heads each week. - The Post Office processes more than one million pounds of mail each year. - The ship has a fully-equipped dental facility, staffed by five dentists. - The Medical Department is manned by six doctors, including a general surgeon, who provide everything from surgery to hydro-therapy. The ship also featuresa 53-bed hospital ward, a three bed ICU, and acts as the hospital ship for the entire Nimitz battle group. - Nimitz' three chaplains conduct daily religious services in an interdenominational chapel. - Nuclear power allows the ship to store 50 percent more ammunition and almost twice as much aviation fuel as the largest conventional carrier. Remember, "Displacement" and "Gross Registered Tonnage" are two completely different measurements. Nimitz is undoubtedly faster than any major cruise ship, they won't tell you how fast she can really go. I don't think a cruise ship can store 70 days worth of food! ha ha ha!! All in all, I think Nimitz can do quite a few more things than any cruise ship! ;) Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 8, 2006 #84 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Remember, "Displacement" and "Gross Registered Tonnage" are two completely different measurements. Nimitz is undoubtedly faster than any major cruise ship, they won't tell you how fast she can really go. I don't think a cruise ship can store 70 days worth of food! ha ha ha!! All in all, I think Nimitz can do quite a few more things than any cruise ship! ;) Theron Well, we know it has a bigger sun deck, but how many swimming pools does the Nimitz have? Also, can the passengers wear jeans on casual night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TPKeller Posted February 8, 2006 #85 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, we know it has a bigger sun deck, but how many swimming pools does the Nimitz have? Yes, a 4.5 acre sun deck... but the gnats are big and very loud! :) Also, can the passengers wear jeans on casual night? Oh, there's LOTS of denim on a Navy ship! :D Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1corona4u Posted February 8, 2006 #86 Share Posted February 8, 2006 [ATTACH]16250[/ATTACH] here is another pict of this ship this time with its new life boats I like how the life boats, have life boats, LOL...:D ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always on vacation Posted February 8, 2006 #87 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Where's the rock wall ???????? Indoor maybe ????? All we can do is speculate because you know we won't hear specifics until 3 days before the first sailing. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericknow32 Posted February 8, 2006 #88 Share Posted February 8, 2006 All we can do is speculate because you know we won't hear specifics until 3 days before the first sailing. LOL.At the earliest:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubiecruiser Posted February 8, 2006 #89 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, it's now official, the Muckidie mucks at RCI have gone completely insane. Here's just a couple of things to look forward to: 1. 2000 little cookie crumblers onboard at a time 2. 4 hour wait to tender, probably at every port because of the size of the ship. 3. Real TV dinners in the dining room. 4. 6 hours to clear the ship when returning to port. 5. 8:00 p.m. boarding time (see above) 6. The Mayo clinic for an infirmary, can anyone say Norwalk?? 9. Que lines to get a lounge chair. 10 If the da*n thing starts to sink, they'll have to call and aircraft carrier to handle all the people in life boats. Get serious, bigger is not better. Why not just buy two or three smaller, all balcony, all suite, adults only ships?? Naw, makes too much sense......... Aubie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHADEN Posted February 8, 2006 #90 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, it's now official, the Muckidie mucks at RCI have gone completely insane. Here's just a couple of things to look forward to: 1. 2000 little cookie crumblers onboard at a time 2. 4 hour wait to tender, probably at every port because of the size of the ship. 3. Real TV dinners in the dining room. 4. 6 hours to clear the ship when returning to port. 5. 8:00 p.m. boarding time (see above) 6. The Mayo clinic for an infirmary, can anyone say Norwalk?? 9. Que lines to get a lounge chair. 10 If the da*n thing starts to sink, they'll have to call and aircraft carrier to handle all the people in life boats. Get serious, bigger is not better. Why not just buy two or three smaller, all balcony, all suite, adults only ships?? Naw, makes too much sense......... Aubie Thank you, Aubie!!! I agree wholy. The cruiselines of course prefer to get as many people on as few ships possible because of fuel, their largest expense (yes even more than the $$$ billion cost of the ship). At least the Voyager classes have a passenger/space ratio of 44.96 (or 32.57 with crew added in). This thing will have passenger /space ratio of 34.38 (or a miserable 26.19 with crew added in). That is considered VERY CROWDED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted February 8, 2006 #91 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Galleria of the Seas! Here's why: It's just like the Houston Galleria. There is a skating rink. Hotel rooms look in on the shopping area. There is a selection of dining options. There is a place to work out. There is a place to dump the kids. Rich people go there to display their conspicuous wealth. There are way too many children and teens roaming around, even on school days. You can spend a week in the thing and never find your way outside. It is serviced by a staff of foreigners earning shamefully poor pay with no benefits. The only thing Galleria of the Seas offers that Houston Galleria doesn't is the potential for seasickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnursu Posted February 9, 2006 #92 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I have to say that I prefer the smaller more personal ships than these huge ships. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericknow32 Posted February 9, 2006 #93 Share Posted February 9, 2006 At least the Voyager classes have a passenger/space ratio of 44.96 (or 32.57 with crew added in). This thing will have passenger /space ratio of 34.38 (or a miserable 26.19 with crew added in). That is considered VERY CROWDED! You need to check your info again because it is not quite accurate. I don't want false information getting out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 9, 2006 #94 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Good grief people, if you don't want to cruise on the ship, you don't have to. As to the space ratio (which is computed at two per cabin), the current info is 220,000 GRT divided by 5400 passengers = 40.74. It is not great, but it is also not bad. The Voyager and Radiance class have a bigger space ratio, the Vision and Sovereign class have a smaller space ratio. Nonetheless, if the ship is not going to be ready until 2009, then likely they will not start building it until 2007, which means that there is plenty of time for design changes, which could result in a higher (or lower) space ratio. Until they start building it, we are not going to really know what the space ratio is. For those who do not like ships that are too big for the Panama Canal, I am sure the Radiance and Vision class ships will be around for a while. Pick the ship you like. I am sure RCI would not invest the money it takes to build this ship if they did not believe they could fill it, and keep filling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 9, 2006 #95 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Why would someone choose to cruise on a line that is family oriented, then complain about the kids. If you don't want kids on your cruise, go with Celebrity, or Seabourn, or any of the other lines that are less family friendly. Expecting Royal Caribbean to have an adult only ship or cruise is not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted February 9, 2006 #96 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Good grief people, if you don't want to cruise on the ship, you don't have to. As to the space ratio (which is computed at two per cabin), the current info is 220,000 GRT divided by 5400 passengers = 40.74. It is not great, but it is also not bad. The Voyager and Radiance class have a bigger space ratio, the Vision and Sovereign class have a smaller space ratio. Nonetheless, if the ship is not going to be ready until 2009, then likely they will not start building it until 2007, which means that there is plenty of time for design changes, which could result in a higher (or lower) space ratio. Until they start building it, we are not going to really know what the space ratio is. For those who do not like ships that are too big for the Panama Canal, I am sure the Radiance and Vision class ships will be around for a while. Pick the ship you like. I am sure RCI would not invest the money it takes to build this ship if they did not believe they could fill it, and keep filling it. Amen and at least RCI didn't make it look like a shopping cart without wheels aka Princess Grand class. Now that is one ugly set of ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 9, 2006 #97 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Amen and at least RCI didn't make it look like a shopping cart without wheels aka Princess Grand class. Now that is one ugly set of ships. I've been telling everyone that is a carrying handle. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpmartin Posted February 9, 2006 #98 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I've been telling everyone that is a carrying handle. :) Hey!!!!!! Don't knock it before you try it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbiaMDCanadian Posted February 9, 2006 #99 Share Posted February 9, 2006 So, we're sorting out this mess of stuff we have in the house and I came across the brochure from our honeymoon on (RCCL's) Song of America. I still vividly remember boarding her and thinking 'My Lord this thing is HUGE!' 37,584 tons. 705 feet in length. 93 feet wide, and 1,450 passengers (25.9 tons per passenger - at that rate the new Leviathan of the Seas should carry 8,487 passengers!). [Oh, if anyone else is interested, the other thing that was shocking: 'B' deck inside $1140 to $1350 per person, 'Promenade' deck 'Deluxe Larger Outside Stateroom' $1820 to $1980pp, and 'Promenade' deck 'Deluxe Larger Outside Suite' $2020 to $2180pp - in 1984 dollars! And not a balcony anywhere. (Though, to be fair, these did include airfare from most eastern departure cities)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHADEN Posted February 9, 2006 #100 Share Posted February 9, 2006 You need to check your info again because it is not quite accurate. I don't want false information getting out here. Well, Eric; At full capacity of 6400 passengers (according to the news broadcast) and add 2000 crew members to a 220,000 ton vessal. Why don't you show me where "my info is not quite accurate"? By the way ---- I teach high school math.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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