Do you think jeans are appropriate aboard Cunard

[cruiserking]

There continues to be so much discussion on this topic. I am curious as to the overall consensus on this issue. Personally, I'm a traditionalist and do not believe jeans are appropriate aboard any of the Cunard Ships. Whether they are designer label or Levi's I feel they detract from the ambience aboard these elegant ships. Just my humble opinion, what's yours?

[cq6]

Part of the appeal of QM2 Cruise is the elegant dress. I am perfectly happy wearing a pair of chinos or linen pants. I don't think jeans are appropriate aboard the QM2 nor do I find them comfortable especially during a Caribbean Cruise. If you want to wear jeans book a casual cruise line.

 

Cq6

[LM1]

If someone is comfortable in jeans they should wear them. I have never usually worn them except getting off the ship on many occasions. My last QE2 crossing in January I wore them on, and never thought twice about it. You can take this even further as far as what people think is appropriate evening wear. I don't agree with some of what I have seen for evening wear, both men and women, but I am not beating everyone up for it. It is what people are comfortable in. Agreeably the QM2 is not a "dress down" ship, but other than dinner ,one will do what they want......except for the "shorts" at dining areas and elsewhere. Move on and ignore "jeans people" if you don''t like it. Do not only book a casual cruise line if you like jeans. Just follow the dress codes for evening and stay away from the snobs.

[Bugeye]

Non of the above are appropriate in any Dining Area on the QM2.

 

Bathing Suits, Lack of shirts - both men and women - are not appropriate

outside of the swimming area.

 

And -- Gentlemen - even men - should not try to wear hats in the dining areas as they will be escorted out. Most boys learn this elementary rule

of etiquette at an earlt age. I am glad the QM2 at least tries to keep

some elements of taste in this increasingly tasteless world.

[stowaway2k]

My opinion is that shorts are fine in the dining rooms at lunch or breakfast on a Caribbean cruise. I wouldn't do it on a crossing, but cruises are more casual.

 

I wear my bathing suit in the gym as well, and for walks out on deck before or after my visit to the gym.

[Sarabur]

Like it or not jeans were seen and were considered acceptable on casual evenings in the Britannia during the Rio - New York voyage.

[bobby1119]

I have worn jeans on both ships during daytime hours. Jeans would be inappropriate, of course, during designated "dress code" times, be that formal, informal, or even dress-up casual. I have on occasion worn jeans with an open collared tux shirt in QE2's Yacht Club for hanging out after a formal night. I have never felt out of place, especially on QE2 which is a far more sedate and dressy ship than Queen Mary 2 which IMHO tends to bring out the bling-bling.

[wripro]

People are deluding themselves if they think they will not see jeans aboard Cunard. On my two crossings I saw them not only during the day but on formal night in the King's Cross restaurants. Face it, with 2600 passengers QM2 is a mass market ship and attracts different people with different ideas of what is casual and what is formal.

[patwell]

Wripro.."Face it, with 2600 passengers QM2 is a mass market ship and attracts different people with different ideas of what is casual and what is formal."(quote)

 

The fact is people will wear what they want to regardless of dress codes. "It's my trip...I paid for it etc, etc..." It happens everywhere unfortunately. What I don't inderstand is why it's such a desirable thing, and the subject of numerous heated exchanges, to want to dress just like everyone else....denim is denim, regardless of slapping a fancy designer name on it. The sameness of denim is very boring looking, and really pretty unoriginal, when you see it everywhere you go. Then again, I guess some people just feel comfortable dressing like the rest of the crowd.

 

Please...I don't mean for this to start another one of those endless "discussions" about where and when to wear jeans on a cruise/crossing. This is just my opinion and honestly I'm just baffled that it's so important to some. Cheers, Penny

[Slow Foxtrot]

Standards are constantly falling in every aspect of life so it's no surprise to read that many people think wearing jeans on the QM2 is quite acceptable.

But then again, the QM2 is clearly a mass-market ship that is attracting mass-market passengers. In this age of political correctness and passengers' rights any attempt by Cunard to appeal to passengers' good taste is doomed to failure. How long before string vests and shorts appear on formal nights? Don't hold your breath. However, it appears that the Germans are regarded as the most smartly-dressed of all so perhaps Cunard should give them an extra discount!

 

Slow Foxtrot

[deck chair]

Hi!

 

I have sailed on QE2 15 times including 10 TAs in caronia Grade. The last in 2003.) although I did not wear jeans, I saw plenty of them during the day but at night I observed not a one....really, at least on the QE2, the ship was very casual by day but turned glittery/dressy at night. I personally did not have a problem with the dress I saw during the day.

 

Patrick

[wripro]

For some reason, and I have no idea why, the QE2 attracts (or used to) a more traditional kind of passenger whereas the QM2's passengers comprise many who are more cruise line oriented and thus dress more informally. On a QE2 crossing all nights except first and last were formal. On QM2 they stick in one or two informal nights. Say informal to alot of people and they interpret is as jeans, not as coat and tie as Cunard intends.

[Anteeta]

I think there are more important things in life to worry about. I've seen people dressed to the nines with manners befitting a guttersnipe and conversely jeans and T shirt people with impeccable manners.

 

Sartorial elegance is fine. But we live in a diverse culture where one man's meat is another man's poisson. I don't care if a person is wearing jeans or a tiara. As long as they're comfortable and are having a good time, does it really matter?

 

I find that it's often those who are more aspirational than arrived who have particular views about the acceptability (or otherwise)of 'lower class' dress. And that's what's really at the bottom of the denim debate. A class issue.

[travel-to-go]

I think there are more important things in life to worry about. I've seen people dressed to the nines with manners befitting a guttersnipe and conversely jeans and T shirt people with impeccable manners.

 

Sartorial elegance is fine. But we live in a diverse culture where one man's meat is another man's poisson. I don't care if a person is wearing jeans or a tiara. As long as they're comfortable and are having a good time, does it really matter?

 

I find that it's often those who are more aspirational than arrived who have particular views about the acceptability (or otherwise)of 'lower class' dress. And that's what's really at the bottom of the denim debate. A class issue.

 

Well said, Anteeta!

And I chuckled at Meat::Poisson (French for Fish) I assume that was intentional!

And usually, those who get miffed about others' attire are generally trying to make themselves appear to be "all that," often by feeling smug and superior to others.

I love to dress for dinner. Wouldn't miss it for the world. I just resent someone intimating that my taste might be suspect. (not that it isn't, mind you! Just that I don't appreciate being judged or scolded like an ignorant child....or peasant.)

 

Karie,

Who could not agree more with what you have said, and succinctly, at that!

[Anteeta]

Well said, Anteeta!

And I chuckled at Meat::Poisson (French for Fish) I assume that was intentional!

And usually, those who get miffed about others' attire are generally trying to make themselves appear to be "all that," often by feeling smug and superior to others.

I love to dress for dinner. Wouldn't miss it for the world. I just resent someone intimating that my taste might be suspect. (not that it isn't, mind you! Just that I don't appreciate being judged or scolded like an ignorant child....or peasant.)

 

Karie,

Who could not agree more with what you have said, and succinctly, at that!

 

Nice one Karie; if one person has smiled, the world is a better place (and yes, it was intentional!).

 

Seriously though. I have travelled on the QE2 and will do so again later this year. My partner and I wear clothes which are comfortable. As it happens, we didn't wear denim last time. We both have what might be considered 'formal' glitzy gear. We possibly would not wear denim to a formal dinner. But I reserve the right to do so if I so choose. That does not make me any less of a person. It doesn't alter my values and as you rightly say Karie, the key issue is a judgemental one. If I'm dressed to kill (albeit figuratively!) I'll draw conclusions about my companions based on their conversation, not their appearance.

 

I don't expect everyone to agree with me and that's what's good about democracy. It accepts and values a spectrum of views and behaviours.

[Toffeegirl68]

Hubby and I on the 17th May 2006 Transatlantic Cruise and I for one will be dressing up all the way! I normally wear jeans or other casual clothing (including in the office) and cannot wait to get my glad rags on. This is one trip for which the old denims are staying safely at home.

[Prince]

Jeans Appropirate? ....Perhaps

Stylish? No.

[NorthernNeighbour]

I guess some people would wear jeans to a wedding, a funeral or a formal night on a cruise ship.

 

It's still tacky and out of place, but some will never be convinced he is not their god-given right to do so.

[Slow Foxtrot]

Never mind jeans; on our last cruise aboard Q.M.2. there was an elderly gentleman who, on formal nights, dined in the usual black evening suit but complete with 'ratting cap' ! Can anyone beat this?

[Texwell]

Never mind jeans; on our last cruise aboard Q.M.2. there was an elderly gentleman who, on formal nights, dined in the usual black evening suit but complete with 'ratting cap' ! Can anyone beat this?

 

Um, pardon me, but what is a "ratting cap", exactly?

[NorthernNeighbour]

A British term -- but I forget what we call it in North America. Hope someone else may know.

[travel-to-go]

Um, pardon me, but what is a "ratting cap", exactly?

 

 

Must be some sort of formal gear, acceptible on Cunard that folks in my (low) class are not familiar with!

 

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Karie,

who wondered the same thing!

[Slow Foxtrot]

For the benefit of our American cousins, a rattin' cap is a flat cap once mainly associated with the working class of the north of England. However, its use is now ubiquitous and it can be seen across the class barriers with different versions sported by holidaymakers, golfers, and even Prince Charles! However, wearing one of these with evening dress on formal nights aboard the Queen Mary 2 is simply not done, old boy! It's enough to give his Lordship apoplexy.

[NorthernNeighbour]

For the benefit of our American cousins, a rattin' cap is a flat cap once mainly associated with the working class of the north of England. However, its use is now ubiquitous and it can be seen across the class barriers with different versions sported by holidaymakers, golfers, and even Prince Charles! However, wearing one of these with evening dress on formal nights aboard the Queen Mary 2 is simply not done, old boy! It's enough to give his Lordship apoplexy.

 

Oh well, if it's enough to give his Lordship apoplexy -- then a lot of people now will probably be sporting one. Yanks do love to imitate British manners, including shocking the upper classes! LOL

[Paul NH]

I wore a suede rattin' cap when walking the deck on the cooler days. It fit snug on my head (which was important because of the strong winds) and was perfect for Deck 7 weather.