No Children in Adult Areas!!!

[dosp]

Kelj I hear you. Lying=bad. Should go without saying. However, cruise lines are notorious for not enforcing rules. So why not relax the ridiculous rules like this, and enforce the "no disruptive to other guests" rules that are listed in the line's terms of agreement? That would cover just about all the complaints you find on the boards.

[dosp]

Smoking and Children.

 

The Religion and Politics of these noble boards...;)

 

I rest my (nut) case.

[superjerryw]

Smoking and Children.

 

The Religion and Politics of these noble boards...;)

 

I rest my (nut) case.

 

Case Dismissed......:rolleyes:

[dfgf]

'Behavior is subjective'. So true. I also find that there are a lot of kids who behave well in-front of their parents who are absolutely terrible once they're away from them.

 

I work part-time at an amusement park, catching shoplifters. Catch quite a few of them. My normal conversation when I call the parents from our police station:

 

Me: "Hello. I have your son in custody. He was caught shoplifting. Please come pick him up."

Parent: "There must be some mistake. He's a straight-A student."

Me: "Ma'am. I'm not calling to discuss his grades. He's been arrested for shoplifting. We need you to come pick him up."

Parent: "I don't believe it. Put him on the phone."

Kid: "Mom. I got caught shoplifting. I'm sorry."

 

That's to say nothing about the 13- thru 17-year-olds who are caught smoking marijuana, drinking beer or having 'adult relations'..... :eek:

[truffles2]

Absolutely. My daughter is rather laid back, the type to sit out on deck and listen to her IPOD. On our first cruise she was 15, I told her WRT areas like the gym, the solarium, the spa, if anyone asked to say she was 16. No one asked.

 

Did I read that right? You instructed your daughter to lie? What is with people today!

[Home.Brew]

Smoking and Children.

 

The Religion and Politics of these noble boards...;)

 

I rest my (nut) case.

 

So true. I often find it humorous that the same people who break out the rule book when it benefits their argument are the same people who will give advice on how to smuggle booze aboard the ship.

[KelJ]

1) I specifically mentioned EATING.

2) I NEVER said my son/daughter should lie.

3) You can't ALWAYS do as the romans do. My daughter was raised believing that drinking is for adults of 21 or older. On her first cruise, although the RULES said she could drink, I SAID she could not. She didn't.

4) RCCL does not have an indoor pool for inclement weather. My 15 year old paid FULL FARE for his cruise. When it rains, do we lock the kids in the cabin? Or perhaps relax the rule THAT DAY? (Actually I think the Solarium is beautiful but I don't use it because of the smell of moth balls and ben-gay)

5) Lighten up.

 

I had two posters confused. For that, I apologize. Zantedeschia DID tell her child to lie. Go back and read her first post in this thread. She told her 15-year-old daughter that, if anyone asked, she should say she's 16. I'm afraid, in my book, that's lying.:eek:

[zantedeschia]

Did I read that right? You instructed your daughter to lie? What is with people today!

OMG! I'm such a horrible mother! O the shame! O the ignominy! I shall now slink away in disgrace!:eek::rolleyes::o

[Firefighterhoop]

the SeaPass isn't swiped when going into the disco.

 

They use their Punch system....

 

0 Punch = 21+

1 Punch = 18-20

2 Punch = -18

 

I'm not sure how they punch it when the waiver has been signed.

 

On SOME of the ships, they do use the Seapass scaners to verify the age and the photo of the person.

 

If the waiver HAS been signed it goes in the computer, therefore they can tell when they swipe the card for the purchase, if not, same difference, they can read that too.

[sassmofi]

I normally do not post to these types of threads. However, something has been eating at me for a while. I guess if it is okay for underage passangers to go into Portofino's, solarium, etc..., then it should be okay for overage passangers to go into Adventure Ocean. Somehow I feel like the parents who do not think it is a big deal for their 10 year old to be in Portofino's would have an issue with the "dirty old man" hanging out with the kids in AO. ;) (in no way am I trying to say that everyone in the solarium and Portofino's is a dirty old man...I was just making a point.)

 

RCCL tries to cater to a variety of people. This is why they have some areas dedicated to adults, some to childern only, and some for everyone.

 

I just do not see how the "childern pay full fare should have full access" argument stands up. I am a full fare paying adult and I do not have access to all areas on the ship.

 

Marinda

[zantedeschia]

Zant- thanks for taking my comment out of context.

 

"I swear officer, she LOOKED 18!" :eek:

Age of consent in Texas is 17 so she's legal, at least in her home state. :p

 

I honestly believe there's a world of difference between violating an age of consent law and sneaking someone who's 15 in the spa or fitness center where the minimum age is 16. This 15 year old acts a lot more mature than a lot of the 20ish people I observed on one or 2 cruises I've been on (when I see wild kids, I often wonder how strict their parents are).

 

If you're one of these people that believe: Lyin's lying. Cheatin's cheatin'. That's your prerogative. Some people would be scandalized that I'll let her have a beer. Heck, I'm working real hard to keep her off the drugs, I'm not gonna sweat over an occasional beer. I used to be the same about her smoking but it turns out she can't tolerate the cigarettes very well and the medical bills and her missing school from the constant bronchitis got to be too much so I work on keeping her smoke-free.

[SunnieD]

I just can not believe that people get so upset on these boards. I know that it feels like when you go on vacation, it belongs to you and the people that are traveling with you. Well, so do most of the other people on that ship. You have to remember that you chose a confined ship with 1000-3000 other people who have their own ways of doing things. If this is not in your idea of how vacation should be, go elsewhere. Don't go on a family friendly ship if you are not family friendly. Speak up for yourself when issues arise, not once your home and under the cloak of cruise critic. Ask the reservations desk at the restaraunt if children will be dining at your res. time. And if the mother wants to tell her daughter to say she is 16, so be it. How did it become your place to pass judgement? Did she bother you on your last cruise? I might go topless on my balcony...:eek: Does that mean if the person peaks around the corner I will have to read about how I offended them when they were looking around the corner? Or maybe my kids should have a designetd time they should be allowed to go out on the balcony in case someone next door can not stand the sound of a child crying, talking, whining, what have you. Please people, lighten up!

[pcur]

I'm not saying the OP should have done the following, because they may have had more scheduling problems than DH and I have on a cruise. We cruise with just the two of us.

 

However, if I entered either Chops or Portofino's and saw children were there, I would ask the maitre 'd for another reservation time, and come back later. I would also tell him that I came to eat a quiet dinner in an adults-only location of the ship, so that's what I want to do.

 

DH always checks out where we are sitting in restaurants here at home, and quietly asks for another table if we're being seated near a family with small children. We have noticed over the last 10 years that more and more people eat dinner out, probably due to working Moms (just like me!!). So, we encounter more children in restaurants. We just remove OURSELVES if it's inconvenient.

 

By telling the Chops and Portofino maitre 'd you want another time because of the children, it's a good opportunity to impress that the kids shouldn't be in there to begin with, and how inconvenient it is.

 

A complimentary glass of wine doesn't cut it if your complaint is the presence of children. They can't very well boot the little ones out!!

 

So, I don't understand the long-suffering. We leave or move, and come back later if we have to. Just our solution, though.

 

And, believe me, if you were in any area of the ship that had an age requirement, and there was a young person close to that age, BEHAVING, you wouldn't even notice them. It's the flagrant disregard that upsets me the most, not the quiet 17 year-old in the casino playing video blackjack, like my DS (previous post).

[Disneycruisers]

I just can not believe that people get so upset on these boards. Speak up for yourself when issues arise, not once your home and under the cloak of cruise critic. And if the mother wants to tell her daughter to say she is 16, so be it. How did it become your place to pass judgement? Please people, lighten up!

 

Upset? I'm getting the feeling that this is a 'discussion,' which is one of the reasons these boards are here. And some of these people DO speak up, and come back here to share their experiences. And..passing judgement? It's my opinion that the entire human race passes judgement, as it helps us make decisions regarding what we think is right and wrong. I think you need to lighten up as well.

[dosp]

Thank you friends. I really beleive I am stupid. But maybe I'm not. Thank you.

[zotzer]

Trust me, I may come off as an a-$#@#, but I'm just interacting with a world gone literally MAD.

 

Steve,

You are my hero! :)

 

BTW....I am about to turn 40, single, and have no kids. I adore kids...after all, I am "crazy aunt Tracy". On my vacation, I don't mind kids, but definitely need a place to escape.

 

Please all....just be civil and abide by the rules. Don't ask your kids to lie and teach them that rules only apply to "the others". Please...I'll buy you a drink in the casino, while your kids are with the in-room sitter, to show my appreciation. :)

 

Tracy

[kenandlaura06]

 

Please all....just be civil and abide by the rules. Don't ask your kids to lie and teach them that rules only apply to "the others".

 

Tracy...I like the way you think! Very well said.

[dosp]

Tracey-

 

Are you my "hero" or "heroine"?. The latter means drug addict in todays world.

Todays world sucks.

 

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[tuff2]

SunnieD,

 

I am not testy. I am sorry I misinterpreted what you said. If you meant to H*** with the rules then I am testy, But I see your point.

[Cruising89143]

Steve,

You are my hero! :)

 

BTW....I am about to turn 40, single, and have no kids. I adore kids...after all, I am "crazy aunt Tracy". On my vacation, I don't mind kids, but definitely need a place to escape.

 

Please all....just be civil and abide by the rules. Don't ask your kids to lie and teach them that rules only apply to "the others". Please...I'll buy you a drink in the casino, while your kids are with the in-room sitter, to show my appreciation. :)

 

Tracy

 

Tracy, very well said!!!!!!!!!

[zotzer]

Todays world sucks.

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Oh, I dunno, Steve. It has its bright spots. :)

 

BTW, that's me in the pink hat, so if someone were to refer to me using the female word for "hero"....well, yes....I would be a very addictive substance! LOL

 

Tracy

[Happy ks]

Tracey-

 

Are you my "hero" or "heroine"?. The latter means drug addict in todays world.

Todays world sucks.

 

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The drug is heroin, heroine would be a woman noted for courage and daring action.

 

I think todays world is just as wonderful as it was years ago, it just has different challenges and it always changes. We all get to look at life the way we want to.

 

I have children and I love children. Getting back to the OP, the reason we used to book the specialty restaurants was to have an evening as adults only. Our kids would go to the kids camp during that time. They are now old enough to join us, so it's no longer an issue for us. But, I would be just as disappointed as you to be seated with children in an adult environment.

[SunnieD]

Thanks for the apology Tuff2. I totally agree with Adults only policy and I am a rule follower. I just think people should stand up for themselves and what they believe in instead of letting little things ruin their special vacation. Investigation into your destination is part of the planning! Lets all have fun and ENJOY YOU CRUISE!

[maurick]

We were on the VOS last nov 13th to Bermuda. In a hot tub, came a family with 3 small girls. The Mom said, the children's outside pool was too cold for them. So I guess in her mind, it was ok for them to come to the inside hot tub. A RCL employee stopped by and came over. He was very polite and quiet and told them to leave. The Mom made it worse by yelling to us in the hot tub, wait till you have children. Some of the group said they did have children and still follow the rules. The Mom continuded till the family left the area.

I also noticed employees telling chilren running to stop. On our NCL Spirit cruise last week, kids ran all the time. Cruise employees just loolked at them. Young teens roamed the halls all night knocking on cabin doors.

I would have to say so far after 3 RCL cruises, they have asked children to leave or correted them. Much better than NCL.

[vickiw0318]

I have been reading and trying to decide how to say what I am trying to say. My children are now in their twenties, so I am just past the days of having to deal with this problem. One of the reasons that we tried to enforce designated rules when my children were younger was consistency. What message was I giving them if I said it was okay to ignore one rule, but pay attention to another rule? Or, what message was I giving them if I said that this rule didn't apply to them? My children were well-behaved. We had a slew of compliments from other dinners when they did dine with us at a nice (but not adults only) restaurant because we made a decision that "restaurant manners" (a standard higher than our normal high standard) would apply in such situations. This was enforced even if we did have to leave a restaurant. My daughter wasn't allowed to go on a couple of early morning band-related "Kidnap" breakfasts because our town has a curfew for teens that these violated. She certainly wasn't happy with me at the time. (She was a little happier when some of the kids were detained by the police for this reason.) My son had to be home by the time designated. It was the law and I didn't pick and choose. I guess one of the more extreme examples I remember was a friend letting her son drive alone without a driver's license because he knew how to drive. So, in effect, she was telling him that it was okay to ignore that law because it didn't apply to him?

 

Okay, no flames please. That is a long way from letting a mature well-behaved 15 year old into a gym. But, the principle still applies. It's hard for a teen to exercise good judgement if they are getting mixed messages from a parent.