Jeans in the dining room...

[bdjam]

Jeans have crossed a new dimension recently. A silk cami & heels make a sharp looking pair of jeans classy enough for most dining establishments.

Vegas clubs say "no jeans"...but they have had to adjust that over the last couple of years. Let's face it, there are "dressy" jeans, and those that aren't.

First of all, there’s no such thing as dressy jeans. By definition, denim is a casual fabric and what is made out of denim is casual. Many manufactures who make denim clothing try to push that it is an alternative to dress clothing, but it is not. No trend or fashionista saying so will make it so.

The clubs and cruise ships and restaurants that have had to adjust over the last few years have had to do so because the people visiting those establishments are boorish enough to disregard social manners and dress as they please instead of as expected.

All that being said, the quotes above the indicate Princess’ dress guidelines are correct. On Princess ships jeans are not allowed in the dining room. Is that always enforced? We all know it isn’t – doesn’t mean that wearing jeans is right or acceptable.

[goodml]

I don't understand why this thread is continuing - The OP wanted to know what the "rule" was - If He/She had read the Cruise Answer booklet that they received in the mail approximately 60 days before the cruise the answer would have been on page 8. End of story.

Ron

 

Pssst Ron, I don't think you're allowed to tell people when the discussion is over.

[staggerlee]

It's interesting to see so many people quoting as fact the evening attire guidelines on the princess.com website and 'cruise answer book' US version, as the current UK version 'cruise answer book' contradicts the other sources.

 

" In the dining room, items such as cut-off t-shirts, shorts and torn jeans are not permitted "

 

Surely it's down to Princess to ensure the guidelines are the same in all it's literature in all markets or who can blame passengers for being confused.

[cruisingmomma]

Last December we cruised on the Grand Princess from Galveston and the majority of passengers were wearing jeans in the dining room. Most passengers were from Texas also.

[DNCButler]

Pssst Ron, I don't think you're allowed to tell people when the discussion is over.

LOL! Now I feel bad I even got into this discussion again! But there used to be a woman on here that would at this point post a comic of a dead horse legs up in the air! I miss her!

[Clutterlady]

One thing I believe some are missing is that these are "guidelines" not really policy! I really think jeans are a little too hot in the Carribean plus I can't eat as much, because my jeans are a little "snug!!!":p

[coiran]

LOL! Now I feel bad I even got into this discussion again! But there used to be a woman on here that would at this point post a comic of a dead horse legs up in the air! I miss her!

 

We could use that Icon - Looks like the posters are off and running, everyone interpreting the cruisebook guidelines to say what they want to hear. BTW, the cruise answer book says "jeans not permitted in the dining room" - that doesn't sound like a "guideline" to me, but then that is "my" definition.

I'm Out!

Ron

[DetectiveMom]

One thing I believe some are missing is that these are "guidelines" not really policy! I really think jeans are a little too hot in the Carribean plus I can't eat as much, because my jeans are a little "snug!!!":p

 

EXACTLY! It's the Caribbean people....that last thing I want to do is wear jeans on a tropical island...but to each his own.

I also wanted to address the poster who made comment: "First of all, there’s no such thing as dressy jeans." I will disagree with this statement as I have a beautiful pair of Joe's Jeans and they fit and look like trousers. Now mind you, I would never wear them on a formal evening, but to say there are no "dressy jeans" is inaccurate.

[Buddy604]

Which brings me to my question, are you answering peoples questions on these board based on fact or based on opinion? Would of been nice to know the "real" rules before we left...

Jeans on casual night is one of those things which, on cruise critic, seems to frequently defy an objective answer.

 

A large following point to the cruise guide what says they are not allowed and present this as a serious rule break and an inconsiderate act. How many of those people would be willing to make it an issue in person on board I do not know, but I suspect if they behaved on board towards others as they do on this board, I'd wager a guess that it would not be the jeans wearer who was escorted out of the dining room.

 

The reality is - it would be considerate to wear non-jeans attire in the dining room. It is also considerate to say please, thank you, and yield the right of way. It doesn't always happen. I've been on four cruises and have seen jeans in the dining room and specialty restaurants on casual night AND formal night. I have risked censure myself by wearing a smart pair of black denim slacks on smart casual night, but have lately taken to wearing a khaki slacks which during the day, zip off to become shorts.

 

If you are worried about spoiling someone's evening by arriving in jeans, but are most comfortable in them, may I suggest anytime dining and a table for two. That's my usual choice anyway.

[woodofpine]

First of all, there’s no such thing as dressy jeans. By definition, denim is a casual fabric and what is made out of denim is casual. Many manufactures who make denim clothing try to push that it is an alternative to dress clothing, but it is not. No trend or fashionista saying so will make it so.

 

 

NOW WAIT A COTTON PICKIN' MINUTE!

 

Make that Blue Cotton with heavy light brown stiched seams...

 

I distinctly remember owning a three piece traditional cut demin suit back in the mid-70's (no-brown stiching though). It was 'fab'; stunning in its Brooks Brothers goes Levi Strauss gag-me-with-a-fork fashion sensibility!

 

To the senior prom that year, I wore a equally stunning cerulean blue and black paisley tux with one of the puffy pirate shirts Jerry Seinfeld immortalized! Ah yes, how quickly we forget the proper formalware of yesteryear...

 

For those that wish that all things cruising would be as they were in the good old days, check out the original 'Poseiden Adventure' for maritime fashion nightmares of yore...

 

No - all in all... even with a few non-conformists aboard, I'd say that the condition of the clothes horse isn't bad on contemporary cruise ships...

[Eskwire]

Ok, I've tried to stay out of this one but as a Mom of 2 children as well, jeans actually take up the same if not MORE room in the suitcases than dockers or other types of slacks that are allowed under the dress code. Nowhere does it say you need to wear dresses on casual night. This is a heated subject and I hate to make anyone feel bad but I have to again state what someone else has said. The requirement set by OUR host (the cruise line) is that jeans are NOT allowed. Would you go to your bosses house for a party wearing jeans when you know the invite asked for something more dressy? Now whether or not you choose to abide by that is up to you. But please no excuses as to WHY you can't follow the dress code when it's not difficult to begin with and the excuse sounds like you just like the way you look in your jeans and to hell with the dress code.

 

Hi, I agree that you don't have to wear a dress on casual nights, but I think my point was that as a mom with small kids jeans are just easier in my current lifestyle. I find myself on floors a lot and jeans are easy to care for. I only need to pack one or 2 pairs, do a wash and I'm good to go for 5 of the 7 nights with dressy tops. As I posted above (as did other posters) I'm not talking about yucky torn jeans, but really nice designer ones. (Also interesting as another poster states that the Euro version only disallows torn jeans).

 

I am going to disregard your comment regarding that I like how I look in my jeans as irrelevant to this topic and merely inflammatory.

 

Best, Eskwire

[Opinions]

So what is the official "rule"? Is it the web site, brochures, Cruise Answer Book, or the Princess Patter?...If one actually reads them all you will find they differ...The brochures say "torn jeans"...The Patter on my recent cruise said "Shorts and T-Shirts are not permitted in the Dining Rooms" no mention of jeans...The Cruise Answer Book says no jeans.

[DNCButler]

But I would like to think I look polished my jeans with my dressy tops (I'm not wearing my Old Navy tshirts to dinner, I promise!!).

Here we go again! You may want to disregard my words but I was responding to YOUR words (see above in quotes).

 

Either way I see the dress code as coming down to either you do as you are requested to do or you do what suits your desires. The cruise lines have made places to eat in jeans and casual attire in the evenings such as the Lido buffet areas but it seems that's not enough.

[MauiLvrs]

Jeans on casual night

Princess in general has no casual night...

So, if you ear jeans on a casual night on Princess, you won't be wearing jeans becaus Princess doesn't have a casual night.

[DNCButler]

I am going to disregard your comment regarding that I like how I look in my jeans as irrelevant to this topic and merely inflammatory.

 

Best, Eskwire

But I would like to think I look polished my jeans with my dressy tops (I'm not wearing my Old Navy tshirts to dinner, I promise!!).

Here we go again! You may want to disregard my words but I was responding to YOUR words (see above in quotes).

 

Either way I see the dress code as coming down to either you do as you are requested to do or you do what suits your desires. The cruise lines have made places to eat in jeans and casual attire in the evenings such as the Lido buffet areas but it seems that's not enough.

[DNCButler]

dup post.

[ldoc31]

Hi, I agree that you don't have to wear a dress on casual nights, but I think my point was that as a mom with small kids jeans are just easier in my current lifestyle. I find myself on floors a lot and jeans are easy to care for. I only need to pack one or 2 pairs, do a wash and I'm good to go for 5 of the 7 nights with dressy tops. As I posted above (as did other posters) I'm not talking about yucky torn jeans, but really nice designer ones. (Also interesting as another poster states that the Euro version only disallows torn jeans).

 

I am going to disregard your comment regarding that I like how I look in my jeans as irrelevant to this topic and merely inflammatory.

 

Best, Eskwire

 

How will you respond to your children when they want to disobey a rule or guideline. They may not want to follow the dress code when they go to school. Are you going to tell them to just ignore it?

[KKB]

NOW WAIT A COTTON PICKIN' MINUTE!

 

Make that Blue Cotton with heavy light brown stiched seams...

 

I distinctly remember owning a three piece traditional cut demin suit back in the mid-70's (no-brown stiching though). It was 'fab'; stunning in its Brooks Brothers goes Levi Strauss gag-me-with-a-fork fashion sensibility!

 

To the senior prom that year, I wore a equally stunning cerulean blue and black paisley tux with one of the puffy pirate shirts Jerry Seinfeld immortalized! Ah yes, how quickly we forget the proper formalware of yesteryear...

 

For those that wish that all things cruising would be as they were in the good old days, check out the original 'Poseiden Adventure' for maritime fashion nightmares of yore...

 

No - all in all... even with a few non-conformists aboard, I'd say that the condition of the clothes horse isn't bad on contemporary cruise ships...

 

THIS IS WHERE I WAS COMING FROM FOLKS!

 

I will NOT blast anyone! BUT I have SEEN people dressed in tuxes from the 70s on formal night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, this follows the "dress code"--but can you all truthfully say that you would find a 70s tux w/ ruffled shirt preferable to a lovely lady in a gorgeous silk camisole, trouser JEANS & heels??!! (yes, I know it is a guy vs. a girl...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!)

 

I guess the new quesion is: (oh, do I REALLY want to open THIS can of worms??!!)

IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW THE "DRESS CODE" OR TO BE CURRENT WITH YOUR FASHION?

(and yes, I am well aware that there are classic styles--which I have always been prone to--, but we all darn well know that TOO many don't always follow those, either!)

 

OK...let'r rip!:D

Kris

[DonLou]

I was recently on a European cruise and this was my experience. We had early sitting dining. Mostly, I did not notice anyone wearing jeans except for a couple of times. That was when the excursions got back very late and the ship subsequently left port about one to two hours later than the scheduled time. I guess the people felt, and perhaps rightfully so, that if the Princess excursions got them back to the ship just at the start of dinner then they were entitled to come to the dining room without having to go back to their cabins to dress up.

[dforeigner]

Last year when I was on the Carribbean princess I saw lots of people in jeans on the casual nights.

 

Whether right or wrong, they looked polished. Flame away, everyone.

 

[coiran]

THIS IS WHERE I WAS COMING FROM FOLKS!

 

I will NOT blast anyone! BUT I have SEEN people dressed in tuxes from the 70s on formal night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, this follows the "dress code"--but can you all truthfully say that you would find a 70s tux w/ ruffled shirt preferable to a lovely lady in a gorgeous silk camisole, trouser JEANS & heels??!! (yes, I know it is a guy vs. a girl...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!)

 

I guess the new quesion is: (oh, do I REALLY want to open THIS can of worms??!!)

IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW THE "DRESS CODE" OR TO BE CURRENT WITH YOUR FASHION?

(and yes, I am well aware that there are classic styles--which I have always been prone to--, but we all darn well know that TOO many don't always follow those, either!)

 

OK...let'r rip!:D

Kris

 

Do whatever you want, but, don't complain on this board if they do not allow you entrance into the dining room. You wanted to know what the "rule" was and I quoted from the cruise answer booklet "jeans are not permitted in the dining room" - for what it's worth.

Ron

Ron

[Guest scfjjb]

Princess in general has no casual night...

So, if you ear jeans on a casual night on Princess, you won't be wearing jeans becaus Princess doesn't have a casual night.

 

 

I agree. Other than first evening I don't recall a "casual night".

 

Unfortunately, people are going to do what they darn well please.

[dforeigner]

LOL! Now I feel bad I even got into this discussion again! But there used to be a woman on here that would at this point post a comic of a dead horse legs up in the air! I miss her!

[DNCButler]

LMAO!!!! YES! That's it!

[dforeigner]

Originally Posted by Eskwire

Last year when I was on the Carribbean princess I saw lots of people in jeans on the casual nights.

 

Whether right or wrong, they looked polished. Flame away, everyone.