Wishing All Thanksgiving Wishes To Our Cruise Critic Family..........

[travel-to-go]

Malcolm,

I have yet to see a tablecloth with a yoke, collar or sleeves. Or buttons (that you have to iron around) pockets, cuffs, etc! <LOL>

Nah, Brits are humans. Although...hmmmm, you guys did have that hoax about the "missing links" Hmmm! <G>

 

And Welsh- Yeah, I think I am part that, too. and part Irish, part who-know-what!

 

Oh, and talk about OT!

 

Your lovely queen met with some of my neighbors day before yesterday. Seems one of our Mohegan (or Mohican, in some spellings) Sachems travelled to Britain in 1735 to complain to the King that some of the British Colonials were pushing them out of their traditional hunting and fishing and planting (and living) grounds! Cheif Mahomet Weyonomon died in 1736 while waiting to see King George II. He was buried in an unmarked grave in south London, as at that time, there was a law against foreigners being buried in London. The present day elected tribal chairman, Bruce "Two Dogs" Bozsum of Uncasville and two other tribal representativees presented a copy of Weyonomon's letter to the Queen. She then lead a procession into to courtyard of Southwark Cathedral to unveil a granite sculpture honoring him. The Mohegans chanted to slow drum beats and the blair of a conch shell, lit a peace pipe withe sage and sweet grass, and turned the pipe in the four compass directions, North, for medicine; south for ancestors; east for new beginnings; and west, "where all things end".

 

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-ctapindiantrip1123.artnov23,0,5628378.story?coll=hc-headlines-local

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/2458

 

 

Karie,

whose next door neighbor is a Mohegan

[pnhmrk]

I have yet to see a tablecloth with a yoke, collar or sleeves. Or buttons (that you have to iron around) pockets, cuffs, etc! <LOL>

 

Our dining table will seat eight very comfortably. We have had as many as 14 at it. That means a big table cloth. Ironing it should be easy except for starching it, drying it (it won't tumble dry if it's starched), folding it!

 

The present day elected tribal chairman, Bruce "Two Dogs" Bozsum of Uncasville and two other tribal representativees presented a copy of Weyonomon's letter to the Queen.

 

It took them a long time to do it. Why did they bother?

[ESLO]

Dear Karie,

 

Just have to let sleeping dogs lie where they want!

 

Thank you for your offer of assistance. CC'ers are aways there for each other.

 

I really don't mind these people who take a posting and turn them around to the opposite meaning that they were meant for. Those who view them and wish to make a entry for the orginal purpose are welcome too! Those who view them with the altered meaning (off the subject) added in may get turned off and shy away from "Getting Involved" in what turns out to be a debate of some sort. I do know that on other boards especially like HAL's, you will be brought on the carpet by one or several people to "Get Back On The Subject" that was the true meaning of the OP.

 

Those in the UK should understand how Americans feel about their particular ways of living. I don't think that all UK's act like "Keeping Up Appearences", "Are You Being Served" and etc... They have the same rights of us. They even have as I have seen on our several visits to London, "Speakers Corner". They debate everything from Politics to the contents of Chocolate Cordial Cherry Candies as I heard with quite a number in the crowds.

 

But they have to understand the reason why we are grateful for the service of the Armed Forces (US, Foreign "including British") that stand by each others side any where in this world of ours. We do not go personally to the area's secured by them to help them do their job. We rely on them to do it for us (Americans, British, etc....). If it wasn't for them, would we have the freedom of cruising so freely and hopefully safe.

 

As these two or three members from the UK that have been posting on Cruise Critics, I must believe that they cruise also. With that in mind, they too should feel the sense of need for security from homeland to international for protection.

 

I must say that my wife and I do have quite number of friends in the UK and feel for them especially with the recent attack on the transit system. Also when there were so so so many attacks with the years and decades of bombings in their country especially the main city of London. I felt deeply for them especially after personally experiencing the WTC attack on 2001 from very very close by.

 

As my wife stated as I said also, the troops are people also. They are doing a job for us (Americans, British, etc...) away from home. I did not mention Iraq at all. They are as other troops are STATIONED all around the world for different purposes.

 

I will as in the past and again now, Wish Everyone A Belated Happy Thanksgiving Day & Weekend. I find it interesting that this posting as gone past Thanksgiving Day......

[KenC]

Dear Karie.....

As on many many other Cruise Critic Boards, CC'ers are sending seasonal greetings to each other with kind exchanges occurring, but there seems to be a strong feelings vented by those members from the UK........ Sadly I may have to think twice on this particular board (Cunard) on doing so in the future and contact those individual CC'ers by personal email with such greetings.

 

Hey Guys don't give up !!!

 

Have already expressed my contempt for the rudeness shown by some UK members - please don't think they represent the rest of us. Perhaps some would prefer our American cousins to leave us alone - but wait a minute ... that might mean no more QE2 (US owned - in reality if not in name!!!) for them to swan about on and feel superior. Oh dear do I smell hypocrisy here :p

 

Best wishes

 

Ken :D

[voyger71]

Well said Karie .... you know we aren't all rude, insensitive little englanders on this side of the pond. :eek:

 

Ken

who is glad to be Welsh :D

 

But lives in England

[ESLO]

Hey Guys don't give up !!!

Best wishes Ken :D

 

Dear KenC,

 

Thank you for your kind words.

 

In my work and also cruising alot, you do learn to deal with alot of people. We have sailed with the Cunard Line for several decades and talked and met many people onboard especially from the UK. We even met a very lovely couple on the QE2 about 12 years ago that we very much in contact with.

 

I have no hard feelings like Kari said in the past. But Cruise Critics are a fellowship that airs their opinions in cruising and other personal subjects. We help each other thru goodtimes and in bad, sickness and sorrowfully at death. We do have feels also. A Sisterhood & Brotherhood combined into one family on these boards.

 

We hope not to offend anyone if and when Boxer Day comes......

[travel-to-go]

Malcolm,

 

It took this long because they couldn't get a passport and Visa! Just kidding!

This is a new Tribal Chairman. It wasn't that long ago that the city deeded back to the Mohegans their ancient burying grounds. Remember, those rascally colonials (British subjects, you know!) just kept taking the land, since the chief never did meet with the King. Eventually, you had "The Last of the Mohicans" Well, they weren't gone, but were relegated to a small reservation in Montville (Uncasville) Now they have one of the largest casinos in the world. The elderly matriarch of the tribe, Gladys Tantaquidgeon died last year when we were away from home. She was quite well respected around these parts. She was over 100 when she died. I was at the ceremony when the ancient burying grounds were returned to the tribe and resanctified. It was moving. My neighbor tells me of his uncles fishing and scrambling around sacred rocks as boys, when the land belonged to the people. The Chief Wyonomon, never had a proper burial, by native customs. So the representatives of the tribe arranged the trip to London to honor him, and to make the traditional gestures one is given in a burial. You know what happens with those spirits with unfinished business here on earth! (They haunt 6 deck of the QM2- Maybe he was still trying to contact the Queen, and took a wrong turn, confusing the QM2, with the British Royal family!) Who knows what he might have been up to all of these years!

 

As for your tablecloth, I can only assume you live in a Baronial Manor and look forward to the invitation to dine with the Lords and Ladies at your manse! Our groaning board barely fit Marc and I when laden with all manner of foodstuffs. We kept moving things around so we woulnd't knock over a wine bottle or a candle! It's not a proper dining room table, but I would not give it up. It was found abandoned in my first apartment in Hartford. It was beat up, dented, scratched and had umpteen layers of hideous paint on it. Carefully and painstakingly, my ex-husband and I (who was my boyfriend at the time) stripped and sanded layer after layer of this beautiful trestle table, then gave it three coats of mahogany stain, and three coats of polyurethane. It looks beautiful, and held up much longer than my marriage! (which ended about 18 years ago! <G>)

 

You STARCH your tablecloth!?!:eek:

My dear boy, all you have to do is spill the gravy! That should be starch enough! :rolleyes:

 

Ed,

When the transit bombings happened, I had to get hold of one of my friends in London to make sure they were okay. She would have been using one of the stations at about the time of the bomb, except she had an appointment with a client and was going in late that day. I think she had intended to take her bicycle, but changed her plans due to weather I think. Thankfully, they were safe in their apartment.

 

Ken, Thanks for concluding that, as all of her majesty's subjects are not bad, neither are all of her ex colonials! <G>

 

Karie,

who is glad to have moved on.

[captain_rad]

What is it they say about two countries separated by a common language? I don't think anyone has objected to your sending "Seasonal Greetings"; there's no objection to wishes for "Peace & Harmony"; however when you start saying that we should be thankful for the work of our solders, when a vast number of the population feel that what they have been doing is wrong, we put our point of view.

 

Our soldiers are men and women that have chosen to serve our respective countries. They are our bothers and sisters, our husbands and wives, and they are our friends from school. They are where they are because our elected politicians sent them there. If you do not like what are soldiers are doing or where they are doing it, go after the politicians that sent them there. Don't hold it against the men and woman that wear the uniforms of our respective countries. They have VOLUNTEERED to defend our countries, sometimes paying the ultimate price. I look forward to the day that they all get to come home, never to be deployed again. Unfortunately, that is not today.

 

However I still don't think that this thread is a place to discuss the problems (or not) with Iraq.

I agree, this is not the place for political statements. But it all started because one person wanted to wish all of the wonderful people on cruise critic a Happy Thanksgiving (US holiday I know). A simple, heart felt sentiment going out to a lot of nice people. So why can't we accept this thread for what I believe it was meant to be. One person sending out holiday wishes to a lot of people that they have never met in person, and let's get back to talking about our cruises yet to come.:D

[Vic The Parrot]

=However I still don't think that this thread is a place to discuss the problems (or not) with Iraq.=

 

 

 

 

 

Looking back through Ed's original post, I didn't see 'Iraq' mentioned anywhere. :rolleyes:

 

 

Hope everyone is enjoying the long holiday weekend.

[pnhmrk]

Karie - thank you - your reply gives much more information that we ever got in our news reports!

 

Those rascally colonials (British subjects, you know!)

 

Know? Past tense? We still are! Rotters to the core!:D

 

I can only assume you live in a Baronial Manor and look forward to the invitation to dine

 

If you replace "Baronial Manor" with three bed semi you're not too far off! We'd love to see both you and Marc for dinner the next time you're over here:)

 

You STARCH your tablecloth!?!:eek:

My dear boy, all you have to do is spill the gravy! That should be starch enough! :rolleyes:

 

Nah - if you spill the gravy then you have to wash and starch them again.

 

They are where they are because our elected politicians sent them there.

 

Nobody is disputing that. Looking at recent election results I suspect that the populus could be voting with that at the forefront of their minds. I'm not sure that's right, a government elected on just one policy, a government needs more than that to run a country.