Did Anyone Else Notice...

[RLM77]

...that the "new" Celebrity web site again calls for men to wear ties on informal nights? For the past few months there was no mention that this particular article of clothing was required.

 

What does everyone think? An imposition, an anachronism, or an attempt to add some class and style to nights that were becoming hard to tell apart from casual evenings?

[cruzin4us]

No matter how hard we try, we will never understand X. I've been reading these boards for months and I'm more confused today than when I started :eek:

[kehlx2]

...that the "new" Celebrity web site again calls for men to wear ties on informal nights? For the past few months there was no mention that this particular article of clothing was required.

 

What does everyone think? An imposition, an anachronism, or an attempt to add some class and style to nights that were becoming hard to tell apart from casual evenings?

 

I saw that & also no mention of fancy pants with fancy tops on formal nights--just LONG dresses--I don't like myself in dresses had hoped to make do with a long black skirt & fancy tops--now might have to go hunting for a dress..UGH!!!:eek: :(

[Susan-M]

I vote for:

an attempt to add some class and style to nights that were becoming hard to tell apart from casual evenings?

 

 

The use of the wording "calls for" and "may wear" seems to be more of a "strong suggestion" than a "must".

 

Is the "What not to Pack" list new?

Irons

Coffee makers

Candles

Illegal drugs

Electrical Transformers

Flammable liquids and explosives, such as fireworks.

[Dandylyon]

Hmmm. Well, I don't wear dresses. Period. I do have dressy pants and tops, however. That will just have to do.

[DaveFr]

The web site talks about dress codes in several places and over the past few months I don't remember seeing any description of the informal dress code for men that did not mention a tie. I must have missed a place on the web site that discussed dress codes.

 

However, in the Proper Dining Attire section of the web site, it says: "Celebrity's evening dress codes include three types: formal, casual and informal. The daily program, delivered to your stateroom and available at the Guest Relations Desk, will be your guide to the appropriate evening attire." Thus, the dress code set out in the daily program is the real dress code and not what is set out on the web site.

 

On our just completed TA on the Millennium, the daily program (Celebrity Today!) defined the evening dress codes as follows:

 

"Ship's Dress Codes

 

Following are the required modes of attire for evening dress (after 6:00 pm nightly) throughout the ship.

 

Formal:

Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket or dark suit and tie.

Ladies: A dressy outfit, formal gown or cocktail dress.

 

Informal:

Gentlemen: Jacket, Slacks. No jeans.

Ladies: Informal dress or pants and blouse.

 

Casual:

Gentlemen: Sports shirt and slacks.

Ladies: Dress, pant suit or sporty outfit."

 

Hope this helps with some of the confusion caused by Celebrity's inconsistent web site.

[Arubalisa]

On our just completed TA on the Millennium, the daily program (Celebrity Today!) defined the evening dress codes as follows:

 

"Ship's Dress Codes

 

Following are the required modes of attire for evening dress (after 6:00 pm nightly) throughout the ship.

 

Formal:

Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket or dark suit and tie.

Ladies: A dressy outfit, formal gown or cocktail dress.

 

Informal:

Gentlemen: Jacket, Slacks. No jeans.

Ladies: Informal dress or pants and blouse.

 

Casual:

Gentlemen: Sports shirt and slacks.

Ladies: Dress, pant suit or sporty outfit."

 

Hope this helps with some of the confusion caused by Celebrity's inconsistent web site.

The Celebrity Today! from our sailing on the Galaxy last December had the EXACT same wording, word for word.

[Mary521]

How many people follow the no jeans for the informal days? We are going on our first X cruise in Jan. Previously we have sailed on RC, which jeans were allowed. (or at least many folks wore them).

 

Both my boyfriend and I like to wear jeans. I feel jeans can be dressed up with a nice top, or a button up or polo shirt for guys.

 

I also do not want to show up in jeans and feel uncomfortable. Or worse yet, be denied access to the dining room!

 

Thanks!

[kehlx2]

Actually this is another place within their discriptions:

Evening Dress Codes

Celebrity's evening dress codes include three types: formal, casual and informal. The daily program, delivered to your stateroom and available at the Guest Relations Desk, will be your guide to the appropriate evening attire.

 

Formal Night Attire

Ladies: Evening gown or fancy dress

Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket or dark suit

 

Informal Night Attire

Ladies: Informal dress or pants and blouse

Gentlemen: Jacket and tie with slacks

 

Casual Night Attire

Ladies: Pantsuit or sporty outfit

Gentlemen: Sport shirt and slacks

[Arubalisa]

How many people follow the no jeans for the informal days? We are going on our first X cruise in Jan. Previously we have sailed on RC, which jeans were allowed. (or at least many folks wore them).

In all twelve nights last year on the Galaxy we saw one person in the dining room wearing jeans. He was politely asked to go back to his cabin and change out of his jeans into something X felt more appropriate. Our Celebrity Today! stated:

 

"Please note: jeans, t-shirts, tank tops, swimsuits, robes, and bare feet are not permitted in the Orion Restaurant at any time. Shorts are not permitted in the Orion Restaurant during dinner times.

 

Guests are expected to respect this sailing tradition for the ambiance of the cruise. On Formal nights, the Formal Dress Code WILL BE required in the Orion Restaurant and Celebrity Theater."

[Pisces11]

They can say whatever they want on the web site but unless they start enforcing their dress codes, people will realize they can wear whatever they feel like. I never saw anyone at the late seating on the Summit in jeans. I think most people will follow reasonable guidelines.

[Rev22:17]

Pisces11,

 

They can say whatever they want on the web site but unless they start enforcing their dress codes, people will realize they can wear whatever they feel like. I never saw anyone at the late seating on the Summit in jeans. I think most people will follow reasonable guidelines.

 

Ah, I HAVE seen Celebrity enforcing the dress code -- especially on "formal" evenings.

 

But "No Jeans" definitely does mean what it says. If you show up at the dining room in bluejeans, your odds of slipping in are pretty slim.

 

Norm.

[Jarronwood]

How many people follow the no jeans for the informal days? We are going on our first X cruise in Jan. Previously we have sailed on RC, which jeans were allowed. (or at least many folks wore them).

 

Both my boyfriend and I like to wear jeans. I feel jeans can be dressed up with a nice top, or a button up or polo shirt for guys.

 

I also do not want to show up in jeans and feel uncomfortable. Or worse yet, be denied access to the dining room!

 

Thanks!

 

How many times have jeans been discussed on these boards - for what its worth once you let people start wearing jeans its sets a precedent and then before you know it, it spirals and X becomes RCCL.

 

I chose X to cruise with because I believed their policy on dress was more formal. I am sure the majority of other cruisers feel the same way.

 

Please, I too have some wonderful pairs of jeans, in fact one pair cost me nearly two hundred english pounds, but would I wear them in the dining room, NO, the code is NO JEANS.

 

Please adhere to it and lets try and keep X what it is supposed to be.

 

Its good you have come to these boards to see what the viewpoint is and I think you will find the majority of us will dress according to the code. If we can all adhere to the dress policy/code then X will continue to be regarded as a very nice upscale cruiseline.

[kruisecat]

I saw that & also no mention of fancy pants with fancy tops on formal nights--just LONG dresses--I don't like myself in dresses had hoped to make do with a long black skirt & fancy tops--now might have to go hunting for a dress..UGH!!!:eek: :(

 

You will be fine with "fancy pants with fancy tops" on your cruise. I've seen many pairs of palazo pants that are so "flowy" that you can't often tell if they are a dress or pants.:D I think the guidelines are meant to give you an idea of what to wear. If you need to make a variation for your own style you'll be fine. If you just keep in mind that it needs to be very dressy you'll be fine!

[salty dingo]

So, I read that as saying a tie is only required on formal night. Fair enough. I might wear a tie to dinner on the informal nights as well.

 

The key here is to look nice, not to dictate a uniform.

 

I have been on a lot of Carnival cruises, and there are a lot of men on those ships who, I believe, do not even own a tie. Formal nights can be a bit informal at some tables.

 

Still, the way someone else dresses does not detract from how I look ... so I do not worry about the dress code.

[DaisyGirl55]

Guests are expected to respect this sailing tradition for the ambiance of the cruise. On Formal nights, the Formal Dress Code WILL BE required in the Orion Restaurant and Celebrity Theater."

 

I usually have no problem getting my DH to dress for dinner, including the dressier nights. It is kind of fun, and different from our normal dinner routine. However, after dinner, he goes right back to the cabin to "get comfortable" which usually are jeans or docker-type pants and a polo shirt. I usually stay in my dress, but I usually go and change into flat shoes.

 

My question is this - I see that the evening's dress code is required to go to the theater to see the shows. What about other areas, such as the casino? We have late seating, so any shows we go to are before dinner (if I read these boards right), and we'll already be dressed to the nines.

 

I want to do this the right way, and not second guess the dress code.

[Melissa at Mohair Meadows]

This thread reminds me of the line in Pirates when it was demanded that the pirates follow the Pirate Code and Parlee. Kiera K was informed that the code was not a code - but more of a guideline.

 

However I do think it would be nice to keep the standards higher in X and follow their recommendations.

 

:)

[WooKeef]

...that the "new" Celebrity web site again calls for men to wear ties on informal nights? For the past few months there was no mention that this particular article of clothing was required.

 

What does everyone think? An imposition, an anachronism, or an attempt to add some class and style to nights that were becoming hard to tell apart from casual evenings?

 

Not exactly welcome news to my DH, but he will probably ignore the requirment if he can. I am lucky to get him in a tie for formal night after he wears them every day. Apparently X is having a case of not making up their mind on this subject.:rolleyes:

[Sky Sweet]

This is the quote in question from Celebrity's website:

 

"For the formal nights, including the Captain's Welcome Aboard Cocktail Party, dinner on the second night, and the Captain's Farewell Dinner held the next-to-last night of the cruise; both men and women may prefer more dressy attire, such as an evening gown for women and a tuxedo or dress suit for men."

 

I interpreted that wording to mean that an evening gown was a possibility for formal night, but not the only option.

[chessbriar]

Noun 1. dress code - a set of rules specifying the correct manner of dress while on the premises of the institution.

 

"Ship's Dress Codes

 

Following are the required modes of attire for evening dress (after 6:00 pm nightly) throughout the ship.

 

Formal:

Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket or dark suit and tie.

Ladies: A dressy outfit, formal gown or cocktail dress.

 

Informal:

Gentlemen: Jacket, Slacks. No jeans.

Ladies: Informal dress or pants and blouse.

 

Casual:

Gentlemen: Sports shirt and slacks.

Ladies: Dress, pant suit or sporty outfit."

 

Or from an earlier post:

 

Evening Dress Codes

Celebrity's evening dress codes include three types: formal, casual and informal. The daily program, delivered to your stateroom and available at the Guest Relations Desk, will be your guide to the appropriate evening attire.

 

Formal Night Attire

Ladies: Evening gown or fancy dress

Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket or dark suit

 

Informal Night Attire

Ladies: Informal dress or pants and blouse

Gentlemen: Jacket and tie with slacks

 

Casual Night Attire

Ladies: Pantsuit or sporty outfit

Gentlemen: Sport shirt and slacks

__________________

[ECCruise]

Have been on Celebrity 10 times in the last few years, everything from 5 day to 14 day, from Europe to Bermuda to Alaska to the Caribbean. Have never seen a tie mentioned in the Celebrity Daily for men on informal night on any of those cruises. Always says "jacket and slacks," unlike the web site. In addition, on a number of these cruises (more than half) they have jettisoned one of the informal nights for an additional casual night. Some cruises have one informal night which is, IMHO, silly. Either do the number of nights designated for that cruise length or, as I would prefer, add an additional formal OR casual night and do away with informal. Its such a hodge-podge of dress styles that night anyhow.

[shoreless]

This is the quote in question from Celebrity's website:

 

"For the formal nights, including the Captain's Welcome Aboard Cocktail Party, dinner on the second night, and the Captain's Farewell Dinner held the next-to-last night of the cruise; both men and women may prefer more dressy attire, such as an evening gown for women and a tuxedo or dress suit for men."

 

I interpreted that wording to mean that an evening gown was a possibility for formal night, but not the only option.

 

If that's from one place on the website, and this is from somewhere else on the same website --

 

Formal:

Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket or dark suit and tie.

Ladies: A dressy outfit, formal gown or cocktail dress.

 

No wonder there's some uncertainty about what's expected. It does appear that Celebrity isn't quite sure either.:rolleyes:

 

(I don't know how to include quotes from more than one previous post).

[Drew B]

Jeans are forbidden AT ALL TIMES in the dining room, right? And yet I saw them often at breakfast and lunch. Worse yet, I saw a lot of sweatpant type outfits that I don't believe would even be appropriate at McDonald's, let alone a nice dining room! People may imply that the X passengers are more discerning and classy in their dress, and that may even be true in the evenings, but it seems like anything goes in the daytime...

[Rev22:17]

salty dingo,

 

So, I read that as saying a tie is only required on formal night. Fair enough. I might wear a tie to dinner on the informal nights as well.

 

The key here is to look nice, not to dictate a uniform.

 

I have been on a lot of Carnival cruises, and there are a lot of men on those ships who, I believe, do not even own a tie. Formal nights can be a bit informal at some tables.

 

Still, the way someone else dresses does not detract from how I look ... so I do not worry about the dress code.

 

Ah, Celebrity is not exactly Carnival. Much of what flies on Carnival won't get to first base on Celebrity. Some people do get away with minor breaches of Celebrity's dress codes on some sailings, but I cannot advise anybody to try it. Whereas the "frat party" crowd to whom Carnival historically pitched its product would typically complain about the existence of a dress code, Celebrity's cruwd routinely registers complaints about any and all breaches in its enforcement. On Celebrity, "formal" really DOES mean FORMAL and you will see a fair percentage of the men sporting "black tie" outfits rather than the alternative dark business suits.

 

On my most recent cruise, to Hawai'i aboard GTS Infinity on 22 October 2006, I did not bring a necktie because the dress standards published aboard ship on my most recent previous Celebrity cruises stated that a necktie was optional on "informal" evenings. When I got aboard, I found that the ship had brought the dress standards into conformance with what appears on the web site and in the pre-cruise information package. IOW, the daily program ("Celebrity Today") stated that neckties were "required" (boldface Celebrity's) on "informal" evenings. Fortunately, one of the ship's shops had a sale on neckties for $10.00 so I bought a necktie to wear on the "informal" evenings. In the future, I'll bring a necktie with me.

 

Norm.

[Rev22:17]

DaisyGirl55,

 

I usually have no problem getting my DH to dress for dinner, including the dressier nights. It is kind of fun, and different from our normal dinner routine. However, after dinner, he goes right back to the cabin to "get comfortable" which usually are jeans or docker-type pants and a polo shirt. I usually stay in my dress, but I usually go and change into flat shoes.

 

My question is this - I see that the evening's dress code is required to go to the theater to see the shows. What about other areas, such as the casino? We have late seating, so any shows we go to are before dinner (if I read these boards right), and we'll already be dressed to the nines.

 

I want to do this the right way, and not second guess the dress code.

 

The norms of social etiquette dictate that "the right way" is to wear the prescribed attire for the entire evening, as that's what the cruise line prescribes.

 

In any case, if you are going to cruise on Celebrity, advise your husband that he will need to stay dressed on the "formal" evenings, when the shows are after dinner. On the first and last "formal" evenngs, there's usually a Captain's toast in the theater before the show (which means that you get a complimentary beverage). There's usually also a queue of "guest relatoins" staff and senior ship's officers at each entrance to the theater to welcome passengers to the event, but who also will turn away anybody who is not wearing the prescribed evening attire.

 

Norm.