Why Carnival's Hawaii itineraries start in Ensenada or Vancouver ....

[FutureTrophyWife]

NCL is the only cruise line that can start and end cruises in Hawaii without going to a foreign port because its ships were built in U.S. shipyards and staffed with mostly American crew.

 

In case you wondered...

[ParrotRob]

NCL is the only cruise line that can start and end cruises in Hawaii without going to a foreign port because its ships were built in U.S. shipyards and staffed with mostly American crew.

 

In case you wondered...

 

Well no, that's not true at all. It has nothing to do with where the ship is built or the nationality of it's crew. It has to do with where the ships are flagged (registered). Foreign flagged vessels can not be used for transportation between US ports without intervening on foreign soil.

 

Pride of America and Pride of Aloha are both registered in the United States. That's why they can do round trip Honolulu trips without leaving Hawaii.

 

Norwegian Wind, on the other hand, is registered in the Bahamas. You'll notice that IT'S Honolulu round trips include a detour to Fanning Island, which is part of the republic of Kiribati, thus satisfying the foreign requirement.

[Mikew0805]

NCL is the only cruise line that can start and end cruises in Hawaii without going to a foreign port because its ships were built in U.S. shipyards and staffed with mostly American crew.

 

In case you wondered...

 

Actually Pride of Hawaii ( U.S. flagged.. for now ) was not built in a U.S. shipyard. It was built at Meyer Werft, in Germany.

 

-Mike

[Moeve]

well actually you are all right - with parts of the story. To get the US registery they need to crew 90 % with US citizens and green card holders....

 

Ensenada and Vancouver are to get around that old passenger services act.... You know I wonder why the cruiselines haven't yet gotten a lobby together to do away with this white elefant of US legislation??

[big_duck]

You are all missing the other point.

 

Carnival's Hawaii trips are repositioning cruises for the Spirt coming down from or going back to Alaska cruises. Trips starting/ending in Vancouver do that because that is the where the Alaska trips originate.

 

It is only the to/from Ensenada legs that are to get around the laws. ;)

[AJs Dad]

well actually you are all right - with parts of the story. To get the US registery they need to crew 90 % with US citizens and green card holders....

 

So I am guessing that most ships have foreign registries to avoid the crew requirement. Is that correct?

[big_duck]

You know I wonder why the cruiselines haven't yet gotten a lobby together to do away with this white elefant of US legislation??

 

I think the cruiselines are quite happy with the excuse to avoid US labor laws.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Services_Act

[Kurbanfan]

NCL is the only cruise line that can start and end cruises in Hawaii without going to a foreign port because its ships were built in U.S. shipyards and staffed with mostly American crew.

 

In case you wondered...

 

Still working on those posts huh:p

[MrPete]

I guess Google is broken today.