shoreguy Posted July 8, 2007 #1 Share Posted July 8, 2007 All the other cruise companies have boards by brand. Why should the two cruiselines run by NCL Corp be lumped together. This is no different at this point then putting Cunard and Carnival on the same board or Celebrity and RCCL. The products are totally different. In my opinion dividing the board would help resolve a lot of the confusion. Your thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimdave68 Posted July 8, 2007 #2 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Yes because NCLA is an entirely different animal than NCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneCruiser Posted July 8, 2007 #3 Share Posted July 8, 2007 The problem that I see is that NCL still lumps them together! Look at their advertizing, look at their website, look at their booklets. All of their literature shows both the NCL ships and the NCLA ships. I think NCL does this to save advertizing and printing costs. But perhaps NCL better do some seperating of the two themselves. So many people think that NCL and NCLA are one and the same and so a bad experience on NCLA means that the whole line is bad! NCL might want to seriously consider spinning off the NCLA brand and distancing that from the NCL international ships before NCLA's bad reputation tarnishes the whole cruise line. (which I think is already happening!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnql Posted July 8, 2007 #4 Share Posted July 8, 2007 They should be separate boards because the two products are without a doubt different. Unfortunately, KeystoneCruiser makes good points - NCL still lumps them together in their marketing, so it's very difficult to separate them in the public's perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoreguy Posted July 8, 2007 Author #5 Share Posted July 8, 2007 They should be separate boards because the two products are without a doubt different. Unfortunately, KeystoneCruiser makes good points - NCL still lumps them together in their marketing, so it's very difficult to separate them in the public's perception. Well at least Cruise Critic can separate them for the good of the cruising public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnql Posted July 8, 2007 #6 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Well at least Cruise Critic can separate them for the good of the cruising public. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoreguy Posted July 8, 2007 Author #7 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Agreed. The fact is this board is not even called the NCL and NCLA board like other message boards with far less activity. It adds to the confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffd64 Posted July 8, 2007 #8 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Definitely a good suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Charlie Posted July 9, 2007 #9 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Separate them, most definitely. I get tired of reading pax with a bad experience on NCLA saying they will never cruise NCL again and down mouthing the NCL when their complaint is against NCLA. Even though NCL doesn't do a good job separating the two entities on their site, CC can separate the two entities here and it's high time it was done. Thanks Shoreguy. Dianne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carol54 Posted July 9, 2007 #10 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I believe they should be separate boards so as to avoid confusion on the boards. We have no control over NCL policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad1185 Posted July 9, 2007 #11 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I want ithem to stay together. With all of the bad reviews and comments, Hopefully it will keep people from cruising NCL altogether. Both cruise lines are a bad. On a recent flight from Hawaii, a couple sitting in front of me just were off the POH. They had NOTHING good to say about their experience. Talking with them really helped the time to pass and hopefully the other passengers sitting around us, hearing how bad the POH is will never cruise any ship of NCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Kewlguy Posted July 9, 2007 #12 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I voted yes for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Charlie Posted July 9, 2007 #13 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I want ithem to stay together. With all of the bad reviews and comments, Hopefully it will keep people from cruising NCL altogether. Both cruise lines are a bad. On a recent flight from Hawaii, a couple sitting in front of me just were off the POH. They had NOTHING good to say about their experience. Talking with them really helped the time to pass and hopefully the other passengers sitting around us, hearing how bad the POH is will never cruise any ship of NCL. That's too bad for you but good for those like DH & I that love NCL. Have never cruised NCLA and don't know if we ever will but we love NCL. Dianne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneCruiser Posted July 9, 2007 #14 Share Posted July 9, 2007 On a recent flight from Hawaii, a couple sitting in front of me just were off the POH. They had NOTHING good to say about their experience. Talking with them really helped the time to pass and hopefully the other passengers sitting around us, hearing how bad the POH is will never cruise any ship of NCL. It is a proven fact that those who have had a bad experience are far more likely to write letters of complaint or voice their complaints loudly than those who have had a good experience. To get an accurate demographic of good experiences vs. bad experiences, you must divide the number of bad reports by 2 to compensate for the good experiences not reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad1185 Posted July 9, 2007 #15 Share Posted July 9, 2007 The only difference is an a at the end of their names and more Americans. They have the same menus, same pay restaruants, same freestyle cruising same long waits, same $10 service charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoreguy Posted July 9, 2007 Author #16 Share Posted July 9, 2007 The only difference is an a at the end of their names and more Americans. They have the same menus, same pay restaruants, same freestyle cruising same long waits, same $10 service charge. Not exactly - different menus, far different wait times if any, and a very different $10 service charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingpirate Posted July 9, 2007 #17 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I want ithem to stay together. With all of the bad reviews and comments, Hopefully it will keep people from cruising NCL altogether. Both cruise lines are a bad. The only difference is an a at the end of their names and more Americans. They have the same menus, same pay restaruants, same freestyle cruising same long waits, same $10 service charge. This is exactly why we should have different sections for NCL and NCLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulworld Posted July 9, 2007 #18 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Two different message boards is an excellent idea. The sooner the better I might add. Ciao, W A W W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnql Posted July 9, 2007 #19 Share Posted July 9, 2007 The only difference is an a at the end of their names and more Americans. They have the same menus, same pay restaruants, same freestyle cruising same long waits, same $10 service charge. This is the exact type of misinformation that results from lack of accurate knowledge concerning the differences between the two lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted July 9, 2007 #20 Share Posted July 9, 2007 NCL and Colin are fully responsible for NCLA. They should live or die by the same sword. PS I enjoyed my NCL cruise (Not as nice as my anytme Princess cruise however. We will find out about NCLA in August. FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmopolitan Posted July 9, 2007 #21 Share Posted July 9, 2007 This is the exact type of misinformation that results from lack of accurate knowledge concerning the differences between the two lines. And, another good reason for two boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneCruiser Posted July 9, 2007 #22 Share Posted July 9, 2007 They have the same menus, same pay restaruants, same freestyle cruising same long waits, same $10 service charge. Funny, I have never had more than a 5 minute wait on any NCL (or NCLA for that matter) cruise that I have taken. That is why there are two sides to every issue. ....and the $10 a day is completely different...goes to a tip pool on NCL and is a "resort charge" on NCLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romy Posted July 9, 2007 #23 Share Posted July 9, 2007 All the other cruise companies have boards by brand. Why should the two cruiselines run by NCL Corp be lumped together. This is no different at this point then putting Cunard and Carnival on the same board or Celebrity and RCCL. The products are totally different. In my opinion dividing the board would help resolve a lot of the confusion. Your thoughts ? Shoreguy, you're brilliant! Hopefully the CC Powers That Be will take notice. Besides, I'm a little tired of reading about the complaints of NCLA. Actually, I don't read them anymore, I'm just tired of "seeing" them. Great Idea! Romy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor Posted July 9, 2007 #24 Share Posted July 9, 2007 All the other cruise companies have boards by brand. Why should the two cruiselines run by NCL Corp be lumped together. This is no different at this point then putting Cunard and Carnival on the same board or Celebrity and RCCL. The products are totally different. In my opinion dividing the board would help resolve a lot of the confusion. Shoreguy states the case very clearly, and having separate boards for NCL and NCLA would separate our discussion of the two cruise lines which operate under the same parent corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted July 9, 2007 #25 Share Posted July 9, 2007 All the other cruise companies have boards by brand. Why should the two cruiselines run by NCL Corp be lumped together. This is no different at this point then putting Cunard and Carnival on the same board or Celebrity and RCCL. The products are totally different. In my opinion dividing the board would help resolve a lot of the confusion. Your thoughts ? The difference is you can't book a Cunard cruise on the Carnival website. NCL wants them to be together or else they would have separated them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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