curley23 Posted November 16, 2007 #76 Share Posted November 16, 2007 RCI does not compete with Carnival neither does Carnival with RCI. Both cruise lines have a solidified place and a solid base. The competition is on the stock market. It doesn't matter to which way 'smuggling' leads: either to less profit in alcohol sales or increased security hence more personnel cost. Neither is wanted by stock holders. So something has to give eventually. The effects of 'smuggling' are not be seen yet. But cruising becomes more and more common and with more and more folks looking to the simplest way of cheap travel the more common will smuggling become. Carnival and RCI will eventually feel the profit per pax go down. And one of the reasons will be the lack of alcoholic beverage sales. A regular cruise fare is hardly a profitable business. The main income of cruise lines are the shore excursions and all onboard sales of which alcohol is a huge percentage (I reckon the highest percentage). When cruise travel was more exclusive you probably had the occasional 'smuggler' and a cruise line was still able to make money on the cruise fare. But with the increase of cruise travelers, the building of bigger ships thus dumping the cruise fares to fill those ships, the onboard sales have become the main income of cruise lines. Like I said, it may not happen tomorrow, or in a year or in two years, but eventually it will happen. I personally find the 'smuggling' of alcohol a childish behavior and shows that some people are just not ready to explore the big world. I have to agree with you. RCI knows what they expect to make in revenue from all profit centers on the ships. They know how much is spent in every department and what the demographics are. Those little sea pass cards aren't for just letting you in the cabin and keeping track of what you owe them. the have been tracking it for years, so they know what the numbers out to be. If they see revenues slipping they will have 2 choices. Keep raising prices, or stop the smuggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmers Posted November 16, 2007 #77 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Of course who would think of checking your cellphone? But how do I explain 10 cellphones. Would look a little suspicous. Jimmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjh2a Posted November 16, 2007 #78 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think some are missing the whole point. Its about convenience and that is it. The whole smuggling thing is not to save money. Do any smugglers not order drinks when they are out of their rooms or do you always go back to your room and refill? Trust me, I dont want to speak for all but we do purchase drinks from RCCL. They are still making money off us. For the 5 days they may not make $30 off me for my in room beverage service but I dont think that really is going to cut into their profit margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtncouple Posted November 16, 2007 #79 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I want a report! When is your next cruise? We leave on Dec. 17th. Will post when I get back to let you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtncouple Posted November 16, 2007 #80 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hey mtncouple, also wondering when and what ship you are going on next. I would like to hear the recent success stories on these before I order a couple. What about at the ports. What kind of "xray" do you go thru before reboarding??? What if you just had one of the small rum runners in a cargo shorts pocket???? I also thought of putting the small ones in cargo pockets. Will be touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snelsonbrown Posted November 16, 2007 #81 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Just an FYI, Just Because of You is no longer allowed to make deliveries to RCCL. Unforuntaley JBOY is longer in business - I am hoping that Shelly is just trying to regroup although I haven't heard from her in over a month - I use to do her orders here in Port Canaveral, when RCCL put their foot down here and said no more alcohol could be delivered to their ship - floral, gift baskets, water and sodas can be taken - Anyhow whereever she is, I wish her well and hope she can get her reputation back for she did have a great business. Always Shirley Port Canaveral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallison8378 Posted November 16, 2007 #82 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think some are missing the whole point. Its about convenience and that is it. The whole smuggling thing is not to save money. Do any smugglers not order drinks when they are out of their rooms or do you always go back to your room and refill? Trust me, I dont want to speak for all but we do purchase drinks from RCCL. They are still making money off us. For the 5 days they may not make $30 off me for my in room beverage service but I dont think that really is going to cut into their profit margin. Right on point. Thank you. I'm new to these boards, and am constantly amused by how hot & bothered the anti-smugglers get on threads that are obviously directed toward smugglers. The remark about smugglers being childish takes the cake. Gotta love the irony of that one. Thanks for the laugh. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullthetrigger Posted November 16, 2007 #83 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Sure its the cruise lines fault. Let me ask you several questions: how would you add to their coffers if you would be allowed to bring alcohol onboard? You probably would bring more alcohol onboard if allowed. So if at all, you'd be spending less onboard. Then you say that you don't like putting alcohol in your luggage. How would you bring alcohol onboard if you were allowed? Carry on? How many bottles? 2, 3, 4? I bet, the first time you stand in line and you carry bottles of liqueur as a carry on it will be the last time, especially if you are delayed and you have to stand a while longer in line. So where would the bottles go the next time? In your luggage. Your next reason is that you want to have a drink in your room. I hear that all the time. There is no no-alcohol-in-staterooms rule. You can have a drink anytime in your room. Most bars are open until 2 or 3 am. Get a drink there and take it to your room. Thats what I do. It is not even an inconvenience. Every reason you and others have given are easy to contradict. Even the money saving reason didn't work. In another thread a smuggler and I have discovered that if you drink a bottle of liqueur through a 5 Night cruise (mixed as drinks) you'd save about $20 per day if you smuggle the liqueur onboard instead of buying mixed drinks onboard. So, $20/day is such a great reason to break the rules? So, what is the reason for smuggling? The thrill? Looking cool? Showing "oh I can beat the authorities"? I just don't see any other reason. Read my post again. I said I would add to their coffers if they would sell me a bottle on board. Charge me a hundred bucks for a bottle of booze. I'll pay it. To answer your second question, how would I bring alcohol on board if it were allowed? I probably wouldn't. Because if we were allowed to bring it on board, they would likely be selling it by the bottle. My point is I don't want to have to carry it. This is not about breaking the rules just so I can. This is about being an adult spending seven nights in a room on vacation. I will mix my drinks as I like them and when I like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakincakes Posted November 16, 2007 #84 Share Posted November 16, 2007 This is about being an adult spending seven nights in a room on vacation. I will mix my drinks as I like them and when I like them. Hmmmm..you never leave your cabin while cruising? :rolleyes: RCI prohibits bringing booze on board. Doing so for whatever reason you may dream up or whatever justification you may manufacture yields the same result. It doesn't sound very "adult" like. More like spoiled child .;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullthetrigger Posted November 16, 2007 #85 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hmmmm..you never leave your cabin while cruising? :rolleyes: RCI prohibits bringing booze on board. Doing so for whatever reason you may dream up or whatever justification you may manufacture yields the same result. It doesn't sound very "adult" like. More like spoiled child .;) To answer your question, I am a suite snob (and not of the junior variety) so yes, I do tend to enjoy the room. However, I do venture out quite frequently. Name calling? I haven't been called a name since middle school. Congratulations for being the first to call me a name in my middle aged years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjh2a Posted November 16, 2007 #86 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hmmmm..you never leave your cabin while cruising? :rolleyes: RCI prohibits bringing booze on board. Doing so for whatever reason you may dream up or whatever justification you may manufacture yields the same result. It doesn't sound very "adult" like. More like spoiled child .;) WOW, why do people love to be jerks on here. No crap they don't let you bring booze on board, thats what the thread is all about. Go find another thread to read. Stay out of ours and will stay out of your thread - "I abide by every rule that the Royal Caribbean Gods have set forth" I bet you have broken them 2, maybe not knowing so but you still did. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krmlaw Posted November 16, 2007 #87 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Go to rum runner flasks. They sell sturdy plastic flasks that are not detectable to cruise ship security. Expect your checked bags to be searched at the airport because that security can detect the bags with liquid. www.rumrunnerflasks.com I have no problem breaking the "Rules" and bringing alcohol on board. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullthetrigger Posted November 16, 2007 #88 Share Posted November 16, 2007 WOW, why do people love to be jerks on here. No crap they don't let you bring booze on board, thats what the thread is all about. Go find another thread to read. Stay out of ours and will stay out of your thread - "I abide by every rule that the Royal Caribbean Gods have set forth" I bet you have broken them 2, maybe not knowing so but you still did. :confused: Amen to that, TJH! I'm beginning to think Bakincakes is a descendent of Elliott Ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojitodiva Posted November 16, 2007 #89 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I don't smuggle booze onto to ship that is because I'm a very light drinker (1 or 2 drinks each day). However if I was drinking more then that I too would smuggle booze onto the ship. :D :) :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg20 Posted November 16, 2007 #90 Share Posted November 16, 2007 veteran smuggler here! Last year on the Carnival forum I went back and forth with a few anti-smugglers and realized that in the end does it really matter what they think? NO! I don't mind overpaying for booze...do it all the time, however, I don't like doing it for 7 days straight! I will offset my bar tab and get great joy doing it...not because I got away with something but being true to myself...being frugal. This spring I plan on having a nice coctail in my cabin before dinner either from the bar or from my suitcase! Enjoy your own my fellow "smugglers"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biomedbob Posted November 16, 2007 #91 Share Posted November 16, 2007 910 Posts since July! Must be too opinionated! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialemic Posted November 16, 2007 #92 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Also, another option is called "Pocket shots" Fill them up in your backpack or luggage. Its a clear pouch with rum, vodka, whiskey etc. You can buy a variety. I did this with no question on my last cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curley23 Posted November 17, 2007 #93 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Read my post again. I said I would add to their coffers if they would sell me a bottle on board. Charge me a hundred bucks for a bottle of booze. I'll pay it. To answer your second question, how would I bring alcohol on board if it were allowed? I probably wouldn't. Because if we were allowed to bring it on board, they would likely be selling it by the bottle. My point is I don't want to have to carry it. This is not about breaking the rules just so I can. This is about being an adult spending seven nights in a room on vacation. I will mix my drinks as I like them and when I like them. I would tend to agree with you on paying what ever RCI would want to charge for a bottle, however there are too few of us who would feel that way. Most people smuggle because they don't want to pay for their booze, regardless of the price. As far as I am concerned the prices are just fine. If RCI wanted to charge $100 a bottle, I would have no problem paying it, but it would not stop the smuggling. There are a lot of people who say they do it for conveience, but most do not want to admit they don't want to pay, at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJMcDaniel Posted November 17, 2007 #94 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I'm sure the cruise lines make up some of the lost revenue by selling booze to under age cruisers. I know for a fact this happens because I've seen it on a few of my most recent cruises. So what is worse smuggling on a 375 ml plastic bottle of gin, for use in your room or selling booze (not beer or wine) to a 19 year old? I vote for the later. Defend cheating if you must just be aware your might be defending a cheater. On board in 9 days! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woe is me Posted November 17, 2007 #95 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I'm sure the cruise lines make up some of the lost revenue by selling booze to under age cruisers. I know for a fact this happens because I've seen it on a few of my most recent cruises. So what is worse smuggling on a 375 ml plastic bottle of gin, for use in your room or selling booze (not beer or wine) to a 19 year old? I vote for the later. Defend cheating if you must just be aware your might be defending a cheater. On board in 9 days! :cool: I really don't think you know for a fact, that they are selling booze to under age cruisers. I think they are pretty strict about selling to the underage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJMcDaniel Posted November 17, 2007 #96 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Sorry it happened to my 19 year old daughter. Actually showed up on her bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woe is me Posted November 17, 2007 #97 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Sorry to hear that.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curley23 Posted November 17, 2007 #98 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Sorry it happened to my 19 year old daughter. Actually showed up on her bill. I guess your daugter doesn't know the rules either, huh?? It could not have been served , or charged to her unless she asked for it. If it was without your permission, or if you do not agree with her drinking at 19, then maybe you should have a chat with her first. It may be procedure for RCI to card, but why is she asking in the first place?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dengail Posted November 17, 2007 #99 Share Posted November 17, 2007 OK, proud closet drink smuggeler standing up to say..."I too, have in the past and will again smuggle!" There, yes, I have a smuggling problem. No, I don't have a drinking problem, yes, I'm on vacation, so I drink. No problem:) No I probably won't drink for breakfast...but If I want to I will..and I can't figure out why people care about that. Now, any other genius smuggling ideas? please email me...DSikkenga@aol.com !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggie620 Posted November 17, 2007 #100 Share Posted November 17, 2007 NCL also has a strict policy of bringing liquor on board. On our last cruise while we were at Muster Drill we watched our friend being escorted up the gang plank because they found a bottle of wine in his carry-on luggage. We thought he was late and almost missed the ship but we learned later it was because of the wine in his luggage. He told us that he "almost" was denied on-board. IF you have to smuggle just be careful and know there is a 50/50 change that it will be taken away from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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