wishful thinking Posted October 28, 2008 #1 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Just found this out today. If you're travelling using the visa waiver programme, there are changes from January 2009. Google "United States Immigration, September 2008 immigration update" - this will go onto a page called MINTZ LEVIN. In 3rd paragraph click 'register online' and complete information. Sorry to anyone who thinks this is in the wrong place but thought main Princess boards would be appropriate for UK Princess cruisers:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheltieLady Posted October 29, 2008 #2 Share Posted October 29, 2008 My sister did her ESTA application about a month ago and had no problem, she first checked that her passports qualified under the visa waiver program and they did she said it was very easy. Printed out every thing they said to print out. Once approved they each got an approval number and they are good for 2 years. She is joining us on our cruise in March when we renew our vows. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Cruiser Posted October 29, 2008 #3 Share Posted October 29, 2008 We completed our ESTAs this week. Really easy process but even that does not guarantee they will let you in:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caber Posted October 29, 2008 #4 Share Posted October 29, 2008 What happens to the people who don`t know anything about this? What would happen when you get to the US? Normally you would be given a form to fill in on the plane.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheltieLady Posted October 29, 2008 #5 Share Posted October 29, 2008 What happens to the people who don`t know anything about this? What would happen when you get to the US? Normally you would be given a form to fill in on the plane.:confused: My understand is you wouldn't be able to board the plane in England. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caber Posted October 29, 2008 #6 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Just went through the process easily. Unfortunately I will have to go through it again later as it expires in one year, in the middle of our cruise. We are on Sea Princess, Montego Bay round trip, Southern Caribbean, in January. We won`t need it for that one, will we? We don`t go to mainland US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldryder Posted October 29, 2008 #7 Share Posted October 29, 2008 A couple of weeks ago I went to Houston, I did the ESTA a few weeks beforehand and was still asked to do the form on the plane as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheltieLady Posted October 29, 2008 #8 Share Posted October 29, 2008 A couple of weeks ago I went to Houston, I did the ESTA a few weeks beforehand and was still asked to do the form on the plane as usual. The ESTA program does not take effect until January 12, 2009 I believe. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Cruiser Posted October 29, 2008 #9 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Just went through the process easily. Unfortunately I will have to go through it again later as it expires in one year, in the middle of our cruise.We are on Sea Princess, Montego Bay round trip, Southern Caribbean, in January. We won`t need it for that one, will we? We don`t go to mainland US. You will perhaps go to St Thomas or San Juan - both are American and you will need to have the ESTA clearance to get in - that's how I understand it. You will still have to fill in the Visa Waiver form on the plane or boat before you try to enter the US. I don't think the ESTAs come into force until 12 January 2009 when we will be mid-cruise so we will need them to get back into Fort Lauderdale to fly back to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Raine Posted October 29, 2008 #10 Share Posted October 29, 2008 When is the UK government going to introduce a similar system into the UK?.US visitors complete a minimal information "form", while we have to literally "bare your body" to get into the US. I even had my fingerprints taken , earlier this year,on a internal flight from London to Manchester, but no there were no restraints on other nationals. I have travelled extensively in the US over several years and Iam loathed to go back because of this paranoid security system they have introduced. Unfortunatley Iam going back in January to cruise out of LA to Hawaii , then next April I will be in NY from a HAL cruise. before anyone says you do not have to go the the US if you do not like the system, remember ALL ARE WELCOME IN THE UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishful thinking Posted October 29, 2008 Author #11 Share Posted October 29, 2008 When is the UK government going to introduce a similar system into the UK?.US visitors complete a minimal information "form", while we have to literally "bare your body" to get into the US. I even had my fingerprints taken , earlier this year,on a internal flight from London to Manchester, but no there were no restraints on other nationals.I have travelled extensively in the US over several years and Iam loathed to go back because of this paranoid security system they have introduced. Unfortunatley Iam going back in January to cruise out of LA to Hawaii , then next April I will be in NY from a HAL cruise. before anyone says you do not have to go the the US if you do not like the system, remember ALL ARE WELCOME IN THE UK. I am more than happy with the "paranoid security system". Just wish ours was as thorough! Can't see why you'd feel "unfortunate" to be cruising out of US. You really don't have to. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVICE WELSH CRUISERS Posted October 29, 2008 #12 Share Posted October 29, 2008 You will perhaps go to St Thomas or San Juan - both are American and you will need to have the ESTA clearance to get in - that's how I understand it. I think you are right. I have booked directly with Princess and they sent the info last week..... no real explanation why. We sail on the 9th Jan but as stated we visit St Thomas on the itinerary and am guessing we need this documetation to disembark there. I will be emailing Princess tomorrow to check this out . I've already done mine... simple process which, I think lasts for two years. It's free at present but there will be a charge applied soon so advice is do it now !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Cruiser Posted October 29, 2008 #13 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I am more than happy with the "paranoid security system". Just wish ours was as thorough! Can't see why you'd feel "unfortunate" to be cruising out of US. You really don't have to. ;) I also only cruise out of the US as a very, very last resort and if they treat my two little grandchildren (5 & 3) in any way like criminals in January before our next cruise, that will be the last time I set foot there - enough will definitely be enough:mad: I have yet to have a smile from a US immigration officer. I would much prefer to pick up a ship in Barbados. We walked straight off the plane and onto the coach when we landed in Barbados in April - didn't even touch the terminal building:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikelmay Posted October 29, 2008 #14 Share Posted October 29, 2008 thanks to the OP for posting this - I was unaware of this new ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheltieLady Posted October 29, 2008 #15 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The first time I heard about the ESTA and informed my sister was back in June someone had posted it on the Royal Caribbean Thread. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggles Posted October 29, 2008 #16 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Just went through the process easily. Unfortunately I will have to go through it again later as it expires in one year, in the middle of our cruise.We are on Sea Princess, Montego Bay round trip, Southern Caribbean, in January. We won`t need it for that one, will we? We don`t go to mainland US. I thought they lasted for two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggles Posted October 29, 2008 #17 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I just read on another USA immigration site that only passengers with machine readable passports need to complete the forms. Anyone know what the rules are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheltieLady Posted October 29, 2008 #18 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Try this site it's from the US Embassy in London, my sister did the visa wizard first to see if her passports qualified under the visa waiver program when she found out they did she then did the ESTA Application. She said that doing the visa wizard was easier then trying to read all the information on different websites. http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/visa_wizard.html Hope this helps answer some questions you have. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Cruiser Posted October 29, 2008 #19 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I just read on another USA immigration site that only passengers with machine readable passports need to complete the forms.Anyone know what the rules are? I think that if you do not have a machine-readable passport then you have to have a visitor visa from the Embassy. After a certain date, I think it was round about 2005/2006 you had to have a biometric passport or else a proper visa - I know my little grand-daughter has one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheltieLady Posted October 29, 2008 #20 Share Posted October 29, 2008 My brother-in-law passport was issued back in 2002 and he has he ESTA approval and it expires in two years. So I'm not sure how it works I did notice on the embassy site it says to do the visa wizard before you do the ESTA Application. I'm just glad I don't have to worry about this, it nice to have two passports one American and one British. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggles Posted October 29, 2008 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2008 sheltie lady Thank you that was very helpful and yes I have an eletronically read passport which I didn't realise until it gave an example of one. I have completed the forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verycatchy7939 Posted October 29, 2008 #22 Share Posted October 29, 2008 it pity that US government does to stop and think.No matter what they do to control entrance terrorists will still get in as they lie,SO making it hard for us people wont make any difference to the war on terror. this new wavier on line is so open to abuse it UN real .Glad DUB YA gone soon we might get good decisions now for the white house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Rays Posted October 29, 2008 #23 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The ESTA program does not take effect until January 12, 2009 I believe. Christine Yes, you are correct - Monday 12th January 2009. I completed our forms last weekend and applications were accepted immediately with a two year validation. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itf Posted October 29, 2008 #24 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The US immigration experience pains me greatly. For about six years now there's been a wanted criminal with the same name as me (it's a common name) and the result is that I get secondary screened at immigration every year. Now sometimes I find a border guard with a brain (it happens!) who understands that this British guy on holiday is not the American guy of a different age that they're looking for. Other times (SFO, I'm looking at you) I get to sit in the little room while they do their background checks. Every time the agent tells me "I'm not supposed to tell you this but there's a guy with the same name..." Talk about security theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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