capnpugwash Posted November 14, 2008 #51 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hey Nalcoln.....greetings....love the set!!;):rolleyes: Cheers, Penny Penny, how are you, how did you enjoy our little island? take care. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 14, 2008 #52 Share Posted November 14, 2008 . As they say: "It's my vacation, and I will dress how I darn well please." Good for you SMNYC, way to go. Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomDePlume Posted November 14, 2008 #53 Share Posted November 14, 2008 As they say: "It's my vacation, and I will dress how I darn well please." Not your usual c r e d o, is it? What happened to "dressing the Cunard way"??? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacruizer Posted November 14, 2008 #54 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I called Cunard, and as I expected, they do not have tuxedos in Bill's size. The shortest inseam in his pant size is 3 inches too long. I suppose we could tape up the legs from the inside, but I'm thinking that a suit that fits him is probably a better option than a Tuxedo that is too long for him. Still looking for the Beavis and Butthead tie... It might be nice for a night in TE. Bill will be fine with a dark suit. There will certainly be other gentlemen who are wearing dark suits. Renting a tuxedo on the QM2 is almost as expensive as buying one. If you really want him to wear a tux go to a tuxedo rental store locally and rent one or purchase one. They are not all that expensive to purchase and then you are set for your next cruise. If he went to a store tomorrow to select one, I would think they could have it ready for him by early next week. But I think you are correct. He would look much better in a well fitting suit than a tuxedo that doesn't fit. Have a wonderful cruise. Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted November 14, 2008 #55 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Curious...What do the gents generally wear on semi formal nights? A suit, or would a jacket, tie and dress pants be appropriate? I really believe that a suit is appropriate for a semi-formal night. At least, that is what we did. We saved the sports coat and trousers for elegant casual. But I do notice my documents say jacket and tie for semi-formal, so I guess it is up to you. I would really think that if the lady's semi-formal attire is very dressy, then perhaps the gentleman should go with a suit--otherwise a sports coat would be fine.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMatesNYC Posted November 14, 2008 #56 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Not your usual c r e d o, is it? What happened to "dressing the Cunard way"??? :p I've decided (at least for today) that if someone needs to be convinced to dress appropriately, then I really have no business, time, or interest in giving them advice (assuming they are not travelling with me). We are talking about adults here (mostly) who can afford to travel on one of the more expensive cruise lines and should be able to read the Cunard guides and understand what the line is requesting. If they have not learned by now how to dress appropriately, why should I, some stranger in cyberspace, tutor them?:rolleyes: I'll just avoid them onboard.:eek: In short, Nom, I have lost my will to serve in the losing battle. Oh, and it may have something to do with a "jeans in the dining room" flame war going on over on HAL.:cool: (P.S., since when was c r e d o a naughty word??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted November 14, 2008 #57 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Good for you SMNYC, way to go.Gari Gari, thought you might appreciate the following - it's my take on the dress code written a year or so ago. It's been on here before so you may already have seen it somewhere. J CUNARD DRESS CODE - NOTES FOR BEGINNERS Imperial Imperial State Crown, Cullinan Diamond (if HM can be persuaded to part with it for a couple of weeks), Orb, Sceptre, Orders of the Garter, Thistle, etc, etc. Equerries, footmen, ADC’s, sundry flunkies, ancient household retainers, et al to wear white tie. Massed bands of the Household Division - No1 Dress. Corgis optional. State coaches may be parked in the forward hold by prior arrangement. Note: only to be worn on major occasions of state or, if travelling by Cunard, on all nights at sea and any night in port when 10 or more reigning monarchs are dining in One’s Grill. Regal As above but massed bands are permitted to hover around Wellington Barracks awaiting One’s return. Really Awfully Formal Top hat, white tie, tails, blah, blah, blah! Formal Dinner jacket, bow tie, dress shirt, trousers (it pays not to forget these), black shoes, whatever! Semi-formal Give me strength, I’m losing the will to live! Presume it’s somewhere between Formal and Casual but, exactly where, I'm at a loss to explain (maybe you can lose the trousers!). Informal Anything with a tie that would be considered sufficiently formal for all practical purposes by any normal inhabitant of the rocky planets of the inner Solar System. Can’t speak for the distant gas-giants - they do things differently that far out! Casual As above – no tie. Trousers optional. Repel Boarders Mode Combat helmet, full combat suit, body armour, boots, web equipment, assault rifle (your choice, but 7.62mm NATO calibre preferred), sidearm, 150 rounds of ammunition. Please note that AK47s and other items of casual, former Eastern Bloc sports-gear are permitted only in the Lido between 0800hrs and 1800hrs on alternate Saturdays during months with an R in the name. Note: if joining your cruise by commercial flight a range of appropriate weaponry can be hired at the Pursers’ Desk. Chav (formal) – see footnote Burberry baseball cap, black shell suit, white Nike trainers, bling by Elizabeth Duke at Argos. Chav (semi-formal) As above, white shell suit. Chav (informal) As above - no bling Chav (casual) Hoodie, track suit bottoms, any old trainers, kid’s BMX bike for making fast getaway after knicking the cutlery. Note that BMX bikes are not permitted in the Queens Grill (they may be parked for a nominal fee in the Queens Grill Lounge). Naturist (formal) Nipple rings. Flip flops. Naturist (semi-formal) As above - no nipple rings Naturist (casual) No flip flops Naturist (ultra casual) Remove flesh from bones. Articulate and mount skeleton (NB: mounted skeleton can be wheeled into meals by crew member if arranged in advance). Invisible Man Save yourself a shed-load of cash, spend two weeks in Skegness getting trashed and forget all about Cunard and their daft dress codes!! Footnote: “Chav - In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a young person of a type characterized by brash and loutish behaviour and the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp. sportswear); usually with connotations of a low social status”. Source Oxford English Dictionary, June 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted November 14, 2008 #58 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Oh, and it may have something to do with a "jeans in the dining room" flame war going on over on HAL.:cool: Ooer - a flame war! Must drop by and have a look at that. :) J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMatesNYC Posted November 14, 2008 #59 Share Posted November 14, 2008 :D:D:D:D:D:D Thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMatesNYC Posted November 14, 2008 #60 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Ooer - a flame war! Must drop by and have a look at that. :) J "Casual In the Dinning [sic] Room" Picking up from post #22's reference to Cunard, you could post that dress guide. I think you might get a good response.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted November 14, 2008 #61 Share Posted November 14, 2008 :D:D:D:D:D:D Thanks for that! You're welcome. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 14, 2008 #62 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Gari, thought you might appreciate the following - it's my take on the dress code written a year or so ago. It's been on here before so you may already have seen it somewhere. No James, not seen that before. Good Stuff. You seems to have it just about covered. I did hear that the word Chav was coined by the girls of Cheltenham Ladies College to designate the male residents of that town is was their shorthand for Cheltenham Average. May be an urban miff. Don't they get their knickers in a twist on that there HAL board?. Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted November 14, 2008 #63 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I did hear that the word Chav was coined by the girls of Cheltenham Ladies College to designate the male residents of that town is was their shorthand for Cheltenham Average. May be an urban miff. I'd heard the Cheltenham solution before but it's almost certainly a backronym. Don't they get their knickers in a twist on that there HAL board? Yes - thank heavens nobody around here takes the dress code that seriously! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMatesNYC Posted November 14, 2008 #64 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Yes - thank heavens nobody around here takes the dress code that seriously! J Exactly! We have a bit of a dust up over pre-tied versus self-tied ties and they have a full on battle, 'bout evenly split, as to whether holey jeans are OK in the dining room! I chimed in with the old "so long as your tattoos and piercings are covered" schtick and on comes some tattoo/pierced lady all worried that she might be frowned upon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 14, 2008 #65 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Exactly! We have a bit of a dust up over pre-tied versus self-tied ties Pray tell me, what exactly IS a pre-tied bow tie? Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMatesNYC Posted November 14, 2008 #66 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Pray tell me, what exactly IS a pre-tied bow tie? Gari A bow tie stitched to stay in a bow, sewn onto a band that goes around your neck, and has a hook and eye either at the back or in the front (behind the bow). Another way to think of it, tie your bow tie, now cut the fabric of the band in the middle of the back of your neck and put a hook on one end and an eye on the other (and sew the bow in front so it does not come apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted November 14, 2008 #67 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Pray tell me, what exactly IS a pre-tied bow tie? Gari Chancer!! :D J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 14, 2008 #68 Share Posted November 14, 2008 A bow tie stitched to stay in a bow, sewn onto a band that goes around your neck, and has a hook and eye either at the back or in the front (behind the bow). Another way to think of it, tie your bow tie, now cut the fabric of the band in the middle of the back of your neck and put a hook on one end and an eye on the other (and sew the bow in front so it does not come apart. These presumably are manufactured for children? Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 14, 2008 #69 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Chancer!! :D J Worked, din it? G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted November 15, 2008 #70 Share Posted November 15, 2008 These presumably are manufactured for children?Gari And vulgar Scottish ex-soldiers with the manual dexterity of a jellyfish. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 15, 2008 #71 Share Posted November 15, 2008 And vulgar Scottish ex-soldiers with the manual dexterity of a jellyfish. J No exceptions James, it's Thompsons for you my lad! Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted November 15, 2008 #72 Share Posted November 15, 2008 No exceptions James, it's Thompsons for you my lad!Gari You mean Gari, you never, ever wore a pretied bowtie--not even once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnpugwash Posted November 15, 2008 #73 Share Posted November 15, 2008 You mean Gari, you never, ever wore a pretied bowtie--not even once? When I was young, and in my prime I used to wear them all the time but now I'm older, and a touch grey I learned to knot the proper way. It was a while ago I must confess and the first dozen or so were a mess but then as I approached aged ten I got it right, and then again. My fears were something of the past I could go out and have a blast and when, late on I got a little hot all I need do is pull the knot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted November 15, 2008 #74 Share Posted November 15, 2008 You mean Gari, you never, ever wore a pretied bowtie--not even once? PM, I even tied my own umbilical cord. Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted November 15, 2008 #75 Share Posted November 15, 2008 When I was young, and in my primeI used to wear them all the time but now I'm older, and a touch grey I learned to knot the proper way. It was a while ago I must confess and the first dozen or so were a mess but then as I approached aged ten I got it right, and then again. My fears were something of the past I could go out and have a blast and when, late on I got a little hot all I need do is pull the knot. Good morning Cap n, Is that a poem of your bowtie skills or GAri's--very nice poem--Capn:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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