*Wink* Posted March 13, 2009 #201 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Am I allowed to vote for 2? How about 3? That depends... Which one are you voting for?? LMBO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshortchef Posted March 13, 2009 #202 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I would probably vote for most, if not all of the specialty restaurants. If you asked a group of 8 year olds what they wanted to do most on their first day at sea, how many would opt for dressing up and spending several hours in a romantic restaurant enjoying the foie gras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladder55 Posted March 13, 2009 Author #203 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Sorry to confuse the matter, Ladder. I have no objections. If they find a way to do it, I won't object and I agree with every single thing you said in this post. What I have been consistent on is thinking that it is not a major issue on cruise ships, or at least it hasn't been for me (and at home I'm like Terry in that I always seem to sit near the wailer and/or food thrower), so it doesn't seem worth the logistic difficulties of setting aside one space, out of a very finite space. I'm sorry that debating this with me is like kissing your sister. So, I guess I should bow out of the ring. :) not debating anything, I just want to understand your perspective and that was all i asked for not sarcastic remarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted March 13, 2009 #204 Share Posted March 13, 2009 not debating anything, I just want to understand your perspective and that was all i asked for not sarcastic remarks I am sorry, Ladder. It was not my intent to be sarcastic toward you. I was being self-deprecating because I realize I am being wishy washy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickdabear Posted March 13, 2009 #205 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Im from Illinois , I voted 11 times . ;) I was born in Illinois. Does that give me more than one vote? Da Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk4322 Posted March 14, 2009 #206 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I voted yes. Like PP's said, Disney has an adults only restaurant & pool. We loved that when we sailed with them about 4 years ago. Even though we had our 10 month old son w/us on the jewel last week, we were still hoping for an adults only pool area. thankfully we traveled w/a lot of family so we were able to dine at speciality restaurants w/o him. but we did take him to Cagney's after our day in Cozumel and he did wonderfully. But I was thankful that the place was empty at 7 pm. literally, it was empty! i couldn't believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagebabe Posted March 14, 2009 #207 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I vote yes. Just because you love your kids doesn't mean everyone else does too. My husband and I both work in industries that involve kids(rn and teacher) and we would really appreciate an environment that does not include them. There are many parents that have well behaved children, but all it takes is a few who have horrible parenting skills to make it a rough sail for everyone. With so many choices now with dining on cruises, make at least ONE adults only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Haynes Posted March 14, 2009 #208 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I cannot believe so many would deny my seventeen year old grandson the opportunity to enjoy French food at Le Bistro or a filet at Cagneys on his birthday so they could dine in an adult restaurant. Frankly, I have not heard of any adult restaurant anywhere in America, ANYWHERE! I believe its unconstitutional as I said before. Ban children at bars yes, restaurants no. If you wish to go on an all adult cruise, choose one. Don't ruin my family cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceparty Posted March 14, 2009 #209 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I think the ship should have adult only areas and adult shows(late night, early morning). Our young daughter has been on at least eight cruises and she can be very good at times but she has her moments and there should be places where adults can go and be kid less. She loves eating in cagneys. I think bars(siting at) and casinos they should not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted March 14, 2009 #210 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I cannot believe so many would deny my seventeen year old grandson the opportunity to enjoy French food at Le Bistro or a filet at Cagneys on his birthday so they could dine in an adult restaurant. Frankly, I have not heard of any adult restaurant anywhere in America, ANYWHERE! I believe its unconstitutional as I said before. Ban children at bars yes, restaurants no. If you wish to go on an all adult cruise, choose one. Don't ruin my family cruise. As I mentioned before, Don, what I am aware of are restaurants with multiple dining rooms setting aside one for adults only. Here is a link to one that we have enjoyed. http://www.eatatcanoe.com/info.html Also, if the suggestion of rotating the adult only restaurant each day were implemented, your grandson would have many opportunities to eat at Le Bistro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted March 14, 2009 #211 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I can't believe this thread is still going, but it is and I for one don't think a limit of 18 should be set, more like 12 or 13, like a few other lines.. That being said, if the age was 18, those not 18 would get over it, they will have many opportunities to enjoy upscale dining throughout their lives..Plus, we are taliking one dining room, not all of them Nita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_Steve Posted March 14, 2009 #212 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I cannot believe so many would deny my seventeen year old grandson the opportunity to enjoy French food at Le Bistro or a filet at Cagneys on his birthday so they could dine in an adult restaurant. Frankly, I have not heard of any adult restaurant anywhere in America, ANYWHERE! I believe its unconstitutional as I said before. Ban children at bars yes, restaurants no. If you wish to go on an all adult cruise, choose one. Don't ruin my family cruise. I really doubt anyone wants to ban your grandson. They just want to eat in an adults only environment. How is it that a ship registered to a foreign nation can disregard US laws pertaining to wages and tips, but must toe the line to the US constituion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyflush Posted March 14, 2009 #213 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I can't believe this thread is still going, but it is and I for one don't think a limit of 18 should be set, more like 12 or 13, like a few other lines.. That being said, if the age was 18, those not 18 would get over it, they will have many opportunities to enjoy upscale dining throughout their lives..Plus, we are taliking one dining room, not all of them Nita Nita when it comes to cruising I will be the first to say you know your stuff. When it comes to restaurants I know mine. The best and most expensive restaurants in the world do not have adult only establishments because it is a marketing mistake. What some do is not offer booster seats and no kids menu. As I stated in an earlier post my husband is a restaurant consultant and has worked with the most famous consultants and restaurants in the US and now England. My husband said a few states have had adult only dining and they do not do well. He did not love his one and only cruise on the Gem. Cruising is not for him, which is why I cruise with my Son and friends:) He did enjoy Le Bistro very much from the service to the decor and my son was the only child/teenager there enjoying the ambience. Would I bring him there at 6 of course not he did not like Escargot at that age and could not sit in a chair for more than 20 minutes:) For us so far we have only cruised in suites so its not a problem we can get reservations on any nights and have room service from any of the restaurants. For the people who complain now about not being able to get in to any of the restaurants this would make it impossible unless NCL changed over to larger main dining rooms with set times like the other lines. I have no idea about the dining on the new Epic maybe NCL will give it a try with a larger ship they have more room to experiment. So for those who want a romantic night out go to Le Bistro I dont think you will see many or any children. As of now if adult only dining is a must for you book a different cruise and move on IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPiratesPlease Posted March 14, 2009 #214 Share Posted March 14, 2009 As of now if adult only dining is a must for you book a different cruise and move on IMO. Yes, YES, YES!!!! It is NONSENSE to demand that NCL change its whole business model for a small minority who can be served either on other cruise lines or by butler service. We have ordered RS from the specialty restaurants many times. If you are in the Courtyard Villa level cabin you can have a group served dinner right in the Courtyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_Steve Posted March 14, 2009 #215 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Yes, YES, YES!!!! It is NONSENSE to demand that NCL change its whole business model for a small minority who can be served either on other cruise lines or by butler service. We have ordered RS from the specialty restaurants many times. If you are in the Courtyard Villa level cabin you can have a group served dinner right in the Courtyard. I don't think anyone is demanding anything. The poll was only asking if you'd like a resturant like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbisson Posted March 14, 2009 #216 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I cannot believe so many would deny my seventeen year old grandson the opportunity to enjoy French food at Le Bistro or a filet at Cagneys on his birthday so they could dine in an adult restaurant. Frankly, I have not heard of any adult restaurant anywhere in America, ANYWHERE! I believe its unconstitutional as I said before. Ban children at bars yes, restaurants no. If you wish to go on an all adult cruise, choose one. Don't ruin my family cruise. I can't believe this thread is still going, but it is and I for one don't think a limit of 18 should be set, more like 12 or 13, like a few other lines.. Nita I like the company I have in this opinion :D I really doubt anyone wants to ban your grandson. They just want to eat in an adults only environment. While saying they may not 'want' to ban the grandson, it seems to be supported by opinion I'm grateful that this 'poll' will have about no impact on anyones decision. :D But I wonder what would be going on in an 'adult environment' dining room that the presence of a 17 yr old would hurt :eek: ;) (or impact at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladder55 Posted March 14, 2009 Author #217 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I don't think anyone is demanding anything. The poll was only asking if you'd like a resturant like that. lol, yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwenmark Posted March 14, 2009 #218 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I cannot believe so many would deny my seventeen year old grandson the opportunity to enjoy French food at Le Bistro or a filet at Cagneys on his birthday so they could dine in an adult restaurant. Frankly, I have not heard of any adult restaurant anywhere in America, ANYWHERE! I believe its unconstitutional as I said before. Ban children at bars yes, restaurants no. If you wish to go on an all adult cruise, choose one. Don't ruin my family cruise. There are in fact adult only restaurants on land even if you have not seen them and there is nothing Constitutional about it. Even if it were Constitutional, which it is not, fortunately cruise lines are not required to do everything according to the US Constitution so that argument would not matter. Furthermore I don't think the original question was should LeBistro or Cagney's be adult only It asked if people would like ONE restaurant that was adult only. I still say yes and make it one that matches some other either regular dining room fare or match one of the others in what is served. That way people with children who want them to experience that can do so, I see no reason why that experience must include people who would rather eat without children present. Some lines already have specialty places where you must be 12 to eat there. Celebrity comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwenmark Posted March 14, 2009 #219 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Yes, YES, YES!!!! It is NONSENSE to demand that NCL change its whole business model for a small minority who can be served either on other cruise lines or by butler service. We have ordered RS from the specialty restaurants many times. If you are in the Courtyard Villa level cabin you can have a group served dinner right in the Courtyard. If it is a small minority why is the poll overwhelmingly in favor of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyflush Posted March 14, 2009 #220 Share Posted March 14, 2009 There are in fact adult only restaurants on land even if you have not seen them and there is nothing Constitutional about it. Even if it were Constitutional, which it is not, fortunately cruise lines are not required to do everything according to the US Constitution so that argument would not matter. Furthermore I don't think the original question was should LeBistro or Cagney's be adult only It asked if people would like ONE restaurant that was adult only. I still say yes and make it one that matches some other either regular dining room fare or match one of the others in what is served. That way people with children who want them to experience that can do so, I see no reason why that experience must include people who would rather eat without children present. Some lines already have specialty places where you must be 12 to eat there. Celebrity comes to mind. NCL is not Celebrity or any other line, NCL does not have pre cruise set dining times. On my last NCL cruise we had over 800 children. I would have no idea how many children cruise Celebrity cruise. You are saying the regular dining room, So I will use the Dawn as an example: Aqua seats 312 Venetian 468 Total per seating 780 Lets say you are talking about using Aqua, now we are at 468 and I will even say 200 kids will eat at the buffet and Blue Lagoon and room service. So where are you seating the 600 kids and parents that want to make the early seating before the show? I will even make it better for you each child with only one parent because some families have 2 or more children so lets say 1200 people need to eat in the main dining room because now we only have one, you could not even do this in two seatings. The above is assuming that the other 1040 people onboard are going to pay to eat or be in the adult only restaurant or the buffet, and my cruise was over 800 kids not 800 and most ate before 9pm. Could they do adult only or 12 and above at 9pm sure that may work but that is not what this poll is asking:) The NCL boards would be filled of unhappy cruisers who could not dine in the main dining room because of an adult main dining room:eek: I would hate to be a family with children staying in an inside cabin, we would have to eat at the buffet or hope to get ressies to pay to eat Yikes What a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPiratesPlease Posted March 14, 2009 #221 Share Posted March 14, 2009 If it is a small minority why is the poll overwhelmingly in favor of it? 249 people--that's one-tenth of one cruise's passengers, all of whom searched for and VOTED on this poll. It's not what would be called a scientific poll since it is not a representative sample of the general NCL population. It means nothing, statistically. It's not valid sampling but rather is clearly biased, in the statistical sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladder55 Posted March 15, 2009 Author #222 Share Posted March 15, 2009 249 people--that's one-tenth of one cruise's passengers, all of whom searched for and VOTED on this poll. It's not what would be called a scientific poll since it is not a representative sample of the general NCL population. It means nothing, statistically. It's not valid sampling but rather is clearly biased, in the statistical sense of the word. ok ok ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladder55 Posted March 15, 2009 Author #223 Share Posted March 15, 2009 NCL is not Celebrity or any other line, NCL does not have pre cruise set dining times. On my last NCL cruise we had over 800 children. I would have no idea how many children cruise Celebrity cruise. You are saying the regular dining room, So I will use the Dawn as an example: Aqua seats 312 Venetian 468 Total per seating 780 Lets say you are talking about using Aqua, now we are at 468 and I will even say 200 kids will eat at the buffet and Blue Lagoon and room service. So where are you seating the 600 kids and parents that want to make the early seating before the show? I will even make it better for you each child with only one parent because some families have 2 or more children so lets say 1200 people need to eat in the main dining room because now we only have one, you could not even do this in two seatings. The above is assuming that the other 1040 people onboard are going to pay to eat or be in the adult only restaurant or the buffet, and my cruise was over 800 kids not 800 and most ate before 9pm. Could they do adult only or 12 and above at 9pm sure that may work but that is not what this poll is asking:) The NCL boards would be filled of unhappy cruisers who could not dine in the main dining room because of an adult main dining room:eek: I would hate to be a family with children staying in an inside cabin, we would have to eat at the buffet or hope to get ressies to pay to eat Yikes What a mess! it would not be one of the main dinning rooms,that would be dumb :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted March 15, 2009 #224 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I cannot believe so many would deny my seventeen year old grandson the opportunity to enjoy French food at Le Bistro or a filet at Cagneys on his birthday so they could dine in an adult restaurant. Frankly, I have not heard of any adult restaurant anywhere in America, ANYWHERE! I believe its unconstitutional as I said before. Ban children at bars yes, restaurants no. If you wish to go on an all adult cruise, choose one. Don't ruin my family cruise. " I believe its unconstitutional as I said before." NO, that is not what you said before. You did not state it was your belief. You asked whether any of us had read the 14th ammendment. Obviously, one of us had, posted it, and pointed out that it did NOT say what you had claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted March 15, 2009 #225 Share Posted March 15, 2009 249 people--that's one-tenth of one cruise's passengers, all of whom searched for and VOTED on this poll. It's not what would be called a scientific poll since it is not a representative sample of the general NCL population. It means nothing, statistically. It's not valid sampling but rather is clearly biased, in the statistical sense of the word. Could you kindly amplify HOW it is biased in the statistical sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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