skipping the muster drill

[cruzincurt]

"But on one last cruise we were having a party in my FIL suite when they tried to make us with that muster drill thing."

 

What, on the ship two hours and already too partied out to go to muster? Do you remember anything else about the cruise?:rolleyes:

[ejeffo]

If you don't want to go to muster... fine. Just do us all a favor... when the ship is going down, or there is a fire, etc... please stay in your cabin just like you did during the drill. That way we can all get to where we need to go without you in the way wandering around like a lost puppy.

 

Ridiculous. These are federal maritime regulations, not optional.

[Rancher Dave]

Ridiculous. These are federal maritime regulations, not optional.

 

Actually SOLAS is an International Treaty on Safety at Sea, not a Federal Regulation. However Federal Authorities, namely USCG are charged with its enforcement...

 

Sometime a captain may crack down and send folks off the ship when they fail to comply (intentionally) with SOLAS, i.e. hiding in their cabins.

 

It is a short part of the cruise, and is for the safety of EVERYONE on the ship...

[maxamuus]

I was just browsing the Carnival boards and noticed someone posted a thread on them skipping the muster drill. They were proud of themselves and a number of others (though not all) approved and said they skip too.

 

Though I've never been on Carnival, on RCL I thought when you walked out to your muster station they took down your cabin number and noted how many passengers so they knew everyone participated. Is this just for appearance? I would expect Carnival has a similar way to make sure everyone is in their place.

 

I find it humorous you posted this looking down your nose at Carnival cruisers because a few of them were skipping muster drill.

 

Are you going to look down your nose at RCL cruisers since it sounds like plenty of them are skipping the drill as well?

[bluecookies]

First I want to say I am a natural born American and only speak English (and not very good I might add. ;) ).

 

The one thing that really ticks me off during the Muster is when those of us that speak English start talking while the Muster information is being repeated for those that do not speak English. Most of those individuals are quiet while our language is being spoken, we should be kind enough to shut up while they are receiving their instructions in their language.

 

Sorry for griping, this one just really pi$$es me off.

 

Tim

 

you bring up an excellent point which I don't think I've been to aware of myself. I'll be more concious of this in the future.

[LSTEFFA]

We rarely go to the muster drill, my FIL talks to the cabin boy before hand and slips him a "few". They usually don't bother us.

But on one last cruise we were having a party in my FIL suite when they tried to make us with that muster drill thing. We told the person we didn't have to go but they insisted. Well things got kind of ugly, we demanded to see the Captain but they said he was "Too Busy". Needless to say, we did attend but we refused to wear those life preservers. Now thay I have been to it, I won't need to go anymore on my next cruise.

You sound like a real calss A jerk.....

[Mollypuss]

We rarely go to the muster drill, my FIL talks to the cabin boy before hand and slips him a "few". They usually don't bother us.

But on one last cruise we were having a party in my FIL suite when they tried to make us with that muster drill thing. We told the person we didn't have to go but they insisted. Well things got kind of ugly, we demanded to see the Captain but they said he was "Too Busy". Needless to say, we did attend but we refused to wear those life preservers. Now thay I have been to it, I won't need to go anymore on my next cruise.

 

I've got one thing to say to you.....to borrow the phrase from my 5 year old..."you my friend are a poopy face."

[cruzincurt]

"We demanded to see the Captain....":rolleyes:

 

Sure...now that's a great idea, I think that's the last thing you want to do as he can kick your sorry butt right off HIS ship.:p

[Philly Steve]

I can just imagine how the rest of the cruise goes if the defiance begins with muster. :rolleyes:

[HoneyDad]

I have always enjoyed the muster drill. I think I have pix of me in my lifejacket from every cruise. It is just another way of knowing that the cruise is officially started.

 

I have noticed something recently that has lengthened the drill. Making the annoucements in 6 languages. Remember as the ships get bigger, it will take longer to assemble to crowd. I don't even want to think about how long it will take for the Oasis. Fortunately the lifeboats are bigger. Good Sailing, Murf

 

We do the lifejacket pictures Too! Cheers.:)

[BND]

We would never consider not going. Anyone who defiantly doesnt' do it just needs to get over themselves. My DH is a US Navy Captain and guess what? The US Navy does all kinds of drills all the time and these are people who are at sea for months at a time. They never think they know everything from having done it once. It's the height of arrogance to think they're a waste of time, or don't apply to "me" or whatever. The poster who said they slip a few dollars to the steward (rude to call them cabin boy btw) should be put off the ship and the steward should get into trouble also for taking a bribe. The Captain doesn't owe any time to such arrogant jerks.

 

Muster drill skipping comes up all the time on the Carnival boards and I'm amazed that there are always one or two who think rules dont' apply to them, or are made to be broken, etc. Hiding is childish.

[born to cruise again]

having sailed rccl for 19 cruises, on various ships, over the last 15 years i too have on occasion more recently been skipping the drills. WHY? No not because I think I am better than anyone else, nor do I believe I know everything about ship safety. However I have attended many drills in various stages, from being 10 minutes early and being at the back of the pack to being 10 minutes late and standing at the stairs.My observations: It is a safety drill not a forum for rccl "save the waves " program. Following the muster drill instructions rccl, always finds in neccessary to subject passengers to this announcement, Why? Because they have a captive audience. It is a drill on safety yet they do not speak about code of conduct, safety while on decks, no climbing on rails etc.

 

If rccl is concerned "about the safety of its passengers at sea" why is it that immediately following the conclusion of the drill, the crew and officers are always the first to leave, leaving 3000 plus passengers to use the stairs and elevators at once. I have seen many passengers over the years fall down stairs and worse because of everyone trying to get some where all at once. True, the crew and officers all need to be at their stations before we sail, but a better solution would be for some crew and officersto stay and assist passengers with an orderly dismissal. Maybe then it would not be as chaotic as it always is.

[G'ma]

Hopefully those who consider themselves "above" all that muster drill stuff will know to head directly to their hiding place in case of emergency.....

[HB Cruiser]

having sailed rccl for 19 cruises, on various ships, over the last 15 years i too have on occasion more recently been skipping the drills. WHY? No not because I think I am better than anyone else, nor do I believe I know everything about ship safety. However I have attended many drills in various stages, from being 10 minutes early and being at the back of the pack to being 10 minutes late and standing at the stairs.My observations: It is a safety drill not a forum for rccl "save the waves " program. Following the muster drill instructions rccl, always finds in neccessary to subject passengers to this announcement, Why? Because they have a captive audience. It is a drill on safety yet they do not speak about code of conduct, safety while on decks, no climbing on rails etc.

 

If rccl is concerned "about the safety of its passengers at sea" why is it that immediately following the conclusion of the drill, the crew and officers are always the first to leave, leaving 3000 plus passengers to use the stairs and elevators at once. I have seen many passengers over the years fall down stairs and worse because of everyone trying to get some where all at once. True, the crew and officers all need to be at their stations before we sail, but a better solution would be for some crew and officersto stay and assist passengers with an orderly dismissal. Maybe then it would not be as chaotic as it always is.

 

Welcome to cruise critic. First post a really nice one.

 

Your statement about the cruise is the first to leave is WRONG! They are always there, directing passengers where to go.

 

As far as your statement about save the waves, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS? If we don't "save the waves," there might not be an ocean to sail on.

 

Tim

[leoandhugh]

What a jerk!! and to think he has the nerve to post this and brag about it. If it were me, I would hang my head in shame for such crass defiance. Can you imagine someone going through a cruise with such defiance -"dont' tell me; I know it all" UGH:(

[BND]

having sailed rccl for 19 cruises, on various ships, over the last 15 years i too have on occasion more recently been skipping the drills. WHY? No not because I think I am better than anyone else, nor do I believe I know everything about ship safety. However I have attended many drills in various stages, from being 10 minutes early and being at the back of the pack to being 10 minutes late and standing at the stairs.My observations: It is a safety drill not a forum for rccl "save the waves " program. Following the muster drill instructions rccl, always finds in neccessary to subject passengers to this announcement, Why? Because they have a captive audience. It is a drill on safety yet they do not speak about code of conduct, safety while on decks, no climbing on rails etc.

 

If rccl is concerned "about the safety of its passengers at sea" why is it that immediately following the conclusion of the drill, the crew and officers are always the first to leave, leaving 3000 plus passengers to use the stairs and elevators at once. I have seen many passengers over the years fall down stairs and worse because of everyone trying to get some where all at once. True, the crew and officers all need to be at their stations before we sail, but a better solution would be for some crew and officersto stay and assist passengers with an orderly dismissal. Maybe then it would not be as chaotic as it always is.

 

If that's your "justification" for not attending, it doesn't hold water. Get over yourself and understand the drills are for everyone's safety and I have never seen the crew on either Carnival or Princess take off before everyone else. Besides, what is the crew supposed to do, hold people's hands? The crew isn't the problem, it's cruisers like you. I have never seen anyone fall, but if you have it must mean you were part of the rushing crowd. BTW, interesting choice for a first post. Most people's first posts are questions. I'm guessing you're not really new to these boards.

[Texas Teen]

The fire onboard Royal Princess is the perfect example of why you need to attend the drill!

[mjldvlks]

I wonder how many of these narcissists who think the rules don't apply to them also encourage their children or grandchildren to skip school fire drills? I mean, after the first semester of first grade you know they way.

 

I love the way they all start out saying "I don't think I am bettter than everyone else" and then proceed to disprove their opening premise.

[Dett]

We always attend the drills. My problem is that it gets so hot with the life jackets on and people so crowded together. I have gotten sick several times due to the heat. So we decided that we would go late so we would be in the front and not so hot. That doesn't always work either. Don't know what I will do next time.

 

I think that it is on Princess that they have them in lounges and that is much better. Although crowded it is much better than the ones on the deck.

[negc]

We rarely go to the muster drill, my FIL talks to the cabin boy before hand and slips him a "few". They usually don't bother us.

But on one last cruise we were having a party in my FIL suite when they tried to make us with that muster drill thing. We told the person we didn't have to go but they insisted. Well things got kind of ugly, we demanded to see the Captain but they said he was "Too Busy". Needless to say, we did attend but we refused to wear those life preservers. Now thay I have been to it, I won't need to go anymore on my next cruise.

This has to be a put on. Nobody could be that self-centeredly obnoxious.:rolleyes:

[J & G]

Note to self:

Never cruise with this guy. Talk about being selfish..........:rolleyes:

Aubie

 

And let me add a big AMEN! Those who have to be hunted down after roll is called, because they don't want to interrupt their party or expose themselves to those nasty, sweaty life vests just make the rest of us REALLY cranky! We see it on every cruise.....and we see the glares they get from those of us who are waiting, when someone finally escorts them to their muster station! Why delay the inevitable....just go to muster and try to play well with others!

 

Please let me not have to be around such self-absorbed people!!! :rolleyes:

[SamFritz]

Has anyone ever "booed" late comers who held up the works? I haven't, but maybe a little shame factor could help.

 

Also, having been on four cruises, I know what is going to happen, but I don't know exactly where and I've probably never walked that exact route on that ship before (my muster station has never been in the same place twice). I think that even if you've been on the ship before, it is important to know where you are going and to go there at least once BEFORE the emergency. I don't care how many cruises you've been on, you will almost certainly be walking a different route to a different location than your last cruise.

[jbond]

Originally Posted by RCCLRULES

We rarely go to the muster drill, my FIL talks to the cabin boy before hand and slips him a "few". They usually don't bother us.

But on one last cruise we were having a party in my FIL suite when they tried to make us with that muster drill thing. We told the person we didn't have to go but they insisted. Well things got kind of ugly, we demanded to see the Captain but they said he was "Too Busy". Needless to say, we did attend but we refused to wear those life preservers. Now thay I have been to it, I won't need to go anymore on my next cruise.

C'mon folks, you can't believe that this is a serious post. How do you spell it? T-R-O-L-L.

We always take photos at the drill. it's part of our cruise ritual. My only complaints with RCI is that on older ships they have the drills outside, instead of inside and they insist on you attending drills on each leg of a B2B. SOLAS requires that the drill is attended within 24 hours of embarkation and is repeated every 30 days. Princess has much more customer friendly drills than RCI, always inside and no repeats on B2B's.

[WeLuvVacation]

We rarely go to the muster drill, my FIL talks to the cabin boy before hand and slips him a "few". They usually don't bother us.

But on one last cruise we were having a party in my FIL suite when they tried to make us with that muster drill thing. We told the person we didn't have to go but they insisted. Well things got kind of ugly, we demanded to see the Captain but they said he was "Too Busy". Needless to say, we did attend but we refused to wear those life preservers. Now thay I have been to it, I won't need to go anymore on my next cruise.

 

Does anyone in their right mind REALLY think that this DOINKS FIL bribes a cabin boy into letting them stay in thier cabins.

 

I mean who is going to mark them as PRESENT at their muster station. And is any cabin boy going to risk getting fired for a few bucks, I don't think so!

 

And ANY cruise that I've been on EVERYBODY has to have the lifejacket on at the drill. You can carry it to the drill and take it off as soon as the drill is over but during the drill everyone has it on and anyone who says otherwise is a LIAR plain and simple!

 

So now you all come on and tell me how you had it off and what your excuse was and lie to me all you want!

[WeLuvVacation]

Quote:

Originally Posted by born to cruise again

having sailed rccl for 19 cruises, on various ships, over the last 15 years i too have on occasion more recently been skipping the drills. WHY? No not because I think I am better than anyone else, nor do I believe I know everything about ship safety. However I have attended many drills in various stages, from being 10 minutes early and being at the back of the pack to being 10 minutes late and standing at the stairs.My observations: It is a safety drill not a forum for rccl "save the waves " program. Following the muster drill instructions rccl, always finds in neccessary to subject passengers to this announcement, Why? Because they have a captive audience. It is a drill on safety yet they do not speak about code of conduct, safety while on decks, no climbing on rails etc.

 

If rccl is concerned "about the safety of its passengers at sea" why is it that immediately following the conclusion of the drill, the crew and officers are always the first to leave, leaving 3000 plus passengers to use the stairs and elevators at once. I have seen many passengers over the years fall down stairs and worse because of everyone trying to get some where all at once. True, the crew and officers all need to be at their stations before we sail, but a better solution would be for some crew and officersto stay and assist passengers with an orderly dismissal. Maybe then it would not be as chaotic as it always is.

 

If that's your "justification" for not attending, it doesn't hold water. Get over yourself and understand the drills are for everyone's safety and I have never seen the crew on either Carnival or Princess take off before everyone else. Besides, what is the crew supposed to do, hold people's hands? The crew isn't the problem, it's cruisers like you. I have never seen anyone fall, but if you have it must mean you were part of the rushing crowd. BTW, interesting choice for a first post. Most people's first posts are questions. I'm guessing you're not really new to these boards.

 

"BTC"A" probably means that "BTC" was banned from the boards.

 

Just a thought..........