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Forever grateful J and D, we are so very lucky. We raise our glasses to you all. 🥂 All good wishes.

Lovely to hear from you, hope you and your sis are both well. We were looking at some of our Searching for the NL excursion photos recently and were remembering you both. Sending all good wishes your way!

We were appalled at the damage being done around us thus we tried to stop it. One glass case fell and there was a couple sitting right in front of another. Whether shocked or terribly optimistic they just continued to sit there, we barked at them to move because if the next case had come down on them I think their injuries would have been immense. We couldn't use either glass staircase to get down as each had been smashed by falling furniture. We had to exit by the room corridor on the 8th floor. The devastation was truly shocking to see the following day, we took a wrong turn going to have dinner and walked through the restaurant which looked like an explosion had occurred.

Thanks so much for clarifying in such detail, we're enormously grateful.

Chengkp75, you are kind to try to further clarify here. I suppose what was worrying me was that if these recommended changes were not policed in some way, if nobody had to accept responsibility when errors or weaknesses were recognised, why should they change?

Andy, thanks so much from us too. Much of the report was unintelligible to me yet your detailed explanation and expertise much better clarifies things. I totally agree with J and D. The sound and comprehensive advice and rationale you and chengkp75 so generously offered immediately after the event was enormously reassuring, at a time when we were all trying to make sense of what had happened to us. I think it was enormously important for us to be able to understand why and how this had happened. I have to mention too, your experience and unemotional delivery of fact contrasted dramatically with the inevitable 'disaster chasers' who were pounding our conversations with utter nonsense. Your responses offered a safe pair of hands. In many ways we were awfully lucky. We were first time cruisers, (we'd never been remotely interested before and my husband had to be persuaded to agree to go) and we really had no idea how serious the situation was. I think I said to you way back that we were on the top deck of the E L thoroughly enjoying the roller coaster ride whilst many around were becoming increasingly anxious and green. We just thought that that was the norm and all really did seem well until suddenly it was not. It was only when the engines suddenly failed and the ship couldn't therefore manage to point into the waves, turning sideways, that all became tricky. It happened very quickly and the difference was profound. It caught many off guard, so much so that they continued sitting on moving sofas; I remember we were keenly trying to stop more of the huge ship display cabinets from falling over by wedging sofas against them. We were so naive! We bumped into a head waiter on our last cruise who had been in The Restaurant on the Sky. He was telling us about some diners who were refusing to leave their lunch table until they had been served their puds, even as he was trying to hold the fridges up as all was smashing everywhere. It was very sudden. Chengkp75 has stated that this isn't a blame game and I do accept that but I don't understand why, if many others have contributed to this event through failings, that V is seen as solely responsible and has taken on the sole financial burden of correcting others contributing errors. Plus of course the expense of compensating us all so very generously. Surely this report will now lead to corporate litigation? Maybe I'm still not understanding.

Yes I remember the discussion. Did you receive the full fare credit to pay for another cruise? I remember a conversation a group of us had whilst onboard, we were wondering whether you'd all been made away. My daughter (in France) told me it was splashed all over the news worldwide.

Oh no, I didn't mean from the passengers, I would imagine that most would have been more than satisfied by Viking's generosity. I'm talking about the costs expended by Viking as a result of this incident and the costs necessary to correct what needs correcting/changing with the ships and procedures etc. The Chief has explained that it's not a blame game but I would expect that somewhere, someone is going to have to put their hands up and accept some sort of proportional responsibility. I can't however, profess to understanding anything at all about all of this!! I remember you introducing yourself to us as a lawyer way back then.

What a tangled mess chengkp75, how will they possibly ascertain responsibility? The lawyers will surely be working on this for years to come.

There was a cruise following ours OTJ, (not a NL one) it was obviously cancelled and as I remember the guests received a full refund and were compensated with the same amount (free cruise). There was a situation with another V cruise delayed by a storm off of Norway which resulted in a delayed arrival in the UK. There were a number of disgruntled passengers both on the delayed ship and awaiting in the UK who brought their grievances to CC. Can't remember the detail but I think that they felt they hadn't been adequately compensated. Viking were obviously keen to avoid a repeat of the Sky incident, rightly so!

Well said J and D, couldn't agree more! Many thanks to both of them.

Hey J and D, responded on the Viking Sky Survivors thread x

Hi J and D, hope all good with you both. Thanks so much for posting this, we were beginning to think it would never appear. Mmmm, it doesn't make for happy reading and I'm so glad Andy is here to offer his knowledge and experience, he was a huge help after the event. Even putting aside the frankly chilling 23 hours sitting in a chair in the theatre with the drama unleashed around us, it was shocking to see the evidence afterwards of how close we came to unimaginable disaster. When we were all together again on our gifted cruise in the Med, the issues of reason and responsibility were raised and much discussed by T H and others. One of the other guests who was on a pre-trip in Umbria with us, and who was still raging about the event, directly challenged TH about whether the Captain should have sailed in that storm, in that stretch of sea, knowing that one engine was out, he responded that he shouldn't have. This was witnessed by all around. We knew about the oil level issues then but not so much else that is detailed here. As Andy said, Swiss Cheese Model indeed! I wonder when this report was received by TH and others responsible for the issues that need to be addressed. I wonder too whether action is underway to address these issues and concerns throughout the cruise industry.. Yep, no doubt this will be an enormous and hard fought legal battle to ascertain responsibility and blame; probably a massive money earner. Viking were extraordinarily generous and supportive of us passengers after the event, I suspect more generous with some with very serious injuries who were threatening to sue and who suddenly went quiet. Of course there was also the case of the couple from New Jersey who settled their multi million case against Viking. They were part of a large family group on the ship but weren't on the reunion cruise with the rest of the family. We were all incredibly lucky to survive this event. On subsequent trips we met others who were still deeply affected by the experience; one chap we were talking to was openly weeping whilst discussing it.

I'm so very sorry to read your post Haworth, what a shock for you. Sending all good wishes to you.

Thanks On The Journey. I do hope you will both find that all will be well in the New Year. Sending my best wishes to our little family too. Let's hope for peace, health and happiness for us all x