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Oh, my! I do believe my shoe is untied. I must pause and re-tie it. Thoroughly. Slowly.

All cruise lines are hungry for cash, especially ones wallowing in debt or in the middle of a growth spurt. In these times, management is unlikely to stop anything that doesn't rise to a situation of cruise line liability or damage to property. The family is favored, because they spend money on tchotchkes, snacks, and amusements. That's revenue YC adults traveling without kids usually don't generate. The kids-cruise-free scheme is a reliable business model. The price of YC accommodations probably dissuades most young families from taking the hit, and instead sticking with Bella. However, from time to time, there will be instances of what Morphesus describes, even in YC. Other than adults-only cruises, one can only minimize the chances of such an occurrence by carefully selecting the time of year and the cruise line.

🎵Face to face and back to back...🎵 If only they had those passes, long ago, at the Billy Idol concert . . .

Umm . . . dress codes??

I completely agree on these points. If school's out, we're on land. Currently, MSC's Yacht Club works well for us. We don't plan on looking for another line in the near term. Also, I think the cruise corps with piles of debt will make many changes within a few years and we are disinclined to become enamored with other lines until the dust settles. Cheers!

If I may ask, what other lines have you cruised and which boxes were lacking? 🤔

Morpheus, it is unfortunate MSC does not outfit their ships with collegiate-level diving platforms. You could post video of your Triple Lindy technique. We are familiar with Thornton's.

Is not Yacht Club still in the practice of providing overnight butler coverage? It is my understanding the butlers take turns covering that shift. Assuming the practice is still extant, why would the overnight butler not be checking the hallways periodically? If I see something like this during our March cruise, management will be called out on it. It's Yacht Club, not a floating Best Western.

Is it because of the 70's/80's TV show, The Love Boat? I admit, part of the reason I dress up on a cruise is because I watched TLB as a kid. All those tuxedos stuck with me. 🤵

Clearly, the Patagonia brand is, by design, the best stuff to wear to Antarctica. Otherwise, they would have called themselves "Kamchatka." 😉

Winnah! Winnah! Chicken dinnah! 🥳

Agree. Aren't cruise ship smoothie bars usually placed in the gym/spa areas?

I was posting on this topic last night. I think the limited itineraries are ultimately a bigger problem than the website and call center. I'm not a fan of having to take a flight from Florida out to an island embarkation for an MSC cruise. I hope they make a change and cover the Windward & Leeward Islands from Florida embarkations.

I wear Chaps. My wife is a fan.

Mum's the word. My mother snuck into Yacht Club once. Once! (Tip o' the cap to you, if you recognize the movie.)

Egads, that's a lot of humanity. I very much enjoy the Mera-class ships' ceiling animations, though. Packed holiday cruises dissuade me from a mass-market itinerary for NYE. I would consider a ship with a better passenger-to-space ratio, but that would still leave me with the other problem... I have zero interest in being on a ship for Christmas. As far as I know, a cruise that includes NYE often includes Christmas. (Yours is an exception, of course.)

If were to find myself in MSC's C-suite, I'd call for undercutting just enough on Florida departures to offset the downside of limited Florida itineraries, which I think is a bigger weakness than the website/call center. If one wants to get to the Windward and Leeward Islands on MSC, one has to fly out for an island embarkation. Other cruise lines go there from Florida.

Earlier today, we secured our Miami pre-cruise lodgings for our March '23 sailing on Seascape. We're rooming a bit more distant from Port Miami than the Hampton Inn, though. Your topic is very timely, as I'm on the lookout for Divina commentary, even if it isn't Yacht Club related. Our current plan is to book a 2024 cruise on Divina (Pictured) while we are on Seascape. Hopefully, Seascape YC is not so changed from this year's February wonderful experience on Mera. If we find YC to be heading in a direction we feel doesn't support the price, we'll be doing nearly the same itinerary on HAL instead.

Here is a video by Romanian media personality, Leonard Miron, detailing the "Farewell Afternoon Tea" overseen by Director Sheriffs, on a Virtuosa cruise in July. Farwell Afternoon Tea MSC Virtuosa.mp4 Perhaps, Morpheus, you can comment as to the similarities and differences between the tea service on Seascape and that which Dl. Miron shows us. As to my hopes for our March cruise on Seascape, afternoon tea may very well be a make-or-break aspect of annual MSC patronage in the future. If "Americanization" is to be the order of the day going forward, my list of must-haves will be all the more crucial. Depending on how things go in March, I don't rule out a drop to the minimum level of cruising needed to maintain Diamond status.

When I saw this post, GP, I thought of you and @psmarkle because of the recent casino activity, about which you both posted. If MSC thinks they can fill (or nearly fill) YC at the going rate, it hurts their bottom line to put casino folks in those suites, without gamblers undertaking an increased risk to get the YC reward. The budget US cruiser, which MSC needs in abundance for their increasingly large ships in Florida, still gets a little something at the bottom of the prize list. Remember, getting 1200 points is not particularly tough and 1500 is not the end of the world. So, the budget cruiser who already looks for a Voyagers Club 5% price break can now make it 5% + 10% with a bit of extra casino play. That's a brass ring the cruisers in that bracket can look forward to capturing. After all, why wouldn't the budget US cruiser risk some coin in the casino? MSC's seemingly unending sale already gave that cruiser free drinks & Wi-Fi and let the kids join the cruise gratis. Some might ask, "Well, if MSC wants to throw a bone to the bargain cruiser, why not keep the 30% and just exclude YC?" I suspect MSC believes 10% will keep those cruisers at the slots just a bit more, but 30% would be giving away too much. The Bella spots, with the freebies added, are already cheap, comparatively speaking. This is another part of MSC's plan to nab a big bunch of Carnival cruisers, who are quite often in the budget-minded column.

Don't forget to invoice MSC for the engineering consult, plus materials.

So do I... "Row well, and live."

"Papers, please."

Speaking of the extravaganza, Morpheus, were there any additional incidents of "interloper response" to eliminate non-YC buffet moochers?