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  1. 12 minutes ago, MEFIowa said:

    The price starts with the actual cost of the cabin.

     

    Those "perks" have a pennies on the dollar value in relation to the cold hard price of the cabin. Thus, SINCE you can bring your own alcohol on board, including beer & hard liquor, how much is a "drinks package" really "worth"? The gratuities is in addition to the cost of the cabin, not a subtraction from the cost, so all you saved was an additional charge, not a reduction in the price of the cabin. As for "OBC", when the cost of things like massages is elevated so high, hard to say you're "saving" anything. If I inflate some price by 200% and then give you a 50% "discount", what real "savings" are you receiving? As for "free air", if you can get the cruise at a lower price by doing your own air, the air isn't "free". So much marketing fluff from O about things being "2 for 1" or "free".

    Sorry, I should have explained my calculations a bit better.  Look at it from the standpoint of booking a cruise on a main-stream line.  Assuming I had booked this cruise for $1,500, I would be paying for my own air ($1,200 minimum at current prices), transfers ($100), grats ($280), drink package upgrade ($500) and $900 in shore excursions. Since $500 of that $900 is refundable OBC, I don't even have to spend all of it. That's an additional $3,000 on top of my base fare of $1,500, which equals what I'm paying pp for this luxury line.

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  2. Just an FYI.  There is a well-known TA (I assume I can't mention the name) that is staging what they call an "Ambassador Cruise" on the Vista for Nov. 19, 2025.  In additional to the current perks offered by Oceania (free air, transfers, $400 ShoreEx credit, etc.), they're offering 5% back in OBC, free gratuities, free upgrade to Prestige Beverage Package, and several private events on board.  It's a transatlantic out of Barcelona.  After subtracting out the value of the perks, I figure we're paying around $1,500 pp for the actual 14 day cruise.  Sale ends on 2/9/24.

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  3. Just now, PaperSniper4 said:

    If one is booked, it's easier to make reservations before boarding, as early as possible. I can't help with your question about booking once on board.

     

     Doug

    Oh, I agree, but when you book a month out, there are very few dining times still available for early booking.  NCL always holds back a significant number of slots for booking on the ship, so if you have priority boarding, you can usually snag your choice of dining by being one of the first in line.

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  4. I can't believe the Getaway is still offering that silly Brazilian Portuguese lecture.  It was bad enough that we had it heading to Portugal since Brazilian Portuguese has numerous differences from the language spoken in Portugal.  The class was also pretty useless because she taught things like the names of various colors instead of phrases we could use ashore.  NCL has one staff member from Brazil, and I guess she is still on board.  

  5. 10 hours ago, Russiamomm said:

    I’ve done it once - bid twice and was immediately outbid.  I gave up.  The same thing happened to everyone I heard about that put in a new bid.  Fast forward a few weeks and  we won the last bid we put in, which was still in the lower range of the original bidding range.

     

    I think it’s a way to create a frenzy and up the bids.

     

    Exactly.  It also doesn't really matter if you've been outbid on your upgrade.  What matters is the progression of upgrades.  If I'm already in the Haven and bid $1,000 on an upgrade to the owner's suite, I expect to win over someone who is in a balcony and bids $2,000 for the same owner's suite.  That's because, hypothetically, NCL could have another bid for my Haven cabin, and the total amount of my bid plus the bid for my cabin could be greater than $2,000.  

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  6. NCL Holdings is not something I want in my portfolio.  It fluctuates over a narrow range and does not seem to have growth potential in the near future.  I will buy it before a cruise, but as soon as I get the credit for OBC, I am looking to sell it.  If it's down at that point, I'll sit on it until it recovers, but as soon as it's in positive territory, I dump it.

  7. 3 hours ago, graphicguy said:

    If you’re new to NCL, unfortunately you will be one the latest allowed to board.  

     

    Those who have mobility issues will board first.

    Then Haven Guests

    Then Latitudes members, beginning with Ambassadors and working down to Bronze

    Then they call by group numbers, which you’ll be assigned at check in.

     

     

    It's not as bad as it sounds.  Assuming you arrive relatively early (say 10:00 or so), you may have a 30 minute wait from when they start boarding.  You will almost always be on board by noon.

  8. 1 minute ago, shof515 said:

    correct the only way to use obc is buy purchasing onboard the ship

     

    when you cancel an excursion onboard the the ship, your refund is given as refundable onboard credit

    Which would be fine since it's refundable OBC.  I'd then turn around and rebook using my non-refundable, which is always used up first before refundable.

  9. 2 hours ago, boxedmoon said:

    Not a guarantee of that happening. I thought the same as you, but a recent TA booking had some paid to the TA and some to NCL. I suspect it had to do with the TA selling a discounted fare but charging normal price, and then keeping the difference.

    The difference here though is that we're talking specifically about the Upgrade Advantage.  The TA receives no commission on an upgrade bid and is not involved to my knowledge.

  10. 2 hours ago, shoptom said:

    Does anyone have experience with Upgrade Advantage triggering the rebate?

    No experience, but I can think of no reason it wouldn't work.  Even if you originally booked through a TA, I believe Upgrade Advantage bypasses the TA and is billed directly by NCL.

  11. 9 hours ago, Anoynmous Phoenix said:

    @FLAHAM

     

    On transatlantic cruises (with many sea days), NCL provides a bridge instructor and director (usually a married couple). 

     

    Has this been reintroduced?   It was missing the last couple of long cruises we have been on.

    I haven't seen duplicate bridge on NCL in a long time.  We're lucky if it's even mentioned in the Daily as an informal gathering.  The last cruise listed in the Freestyle Daily with a start time of 12 noon on sea days and located it in the internet cafe where space was at a premium and always filled.  They had no cards and, needless to say, no games materialized. 

  12. I struggled with coming up with a title for this post.  I'm trying to find out the email address for whoever on the Bliss would be responsible for giving a group of 12-16 people a location to play bridge on sea days.  Too often, left to their own devices, the ships either ignore this completely, schedule it in an already filled library or game room, or schedule it over lunch hour.  The times it's been done right, they put an announcement every sea day in the Freestyle Daily and schedule it for an unused restaurant.  I just need the correct email to contact them.

  13. I can sympathize with your experience.  We took a transatlantic on the Getaway just before the pandemic.  The food was so bad that we were ready to give up cruising.  I started counting the number of individual dishes we had at dinner, and only 2 out of 65 dishes were at least average - a hot wings appetizer and a souffle dessert.  The 63 below average included a steak that was uniformly gray both inside and out and a mixed green salad that had exactly one leaf on it.  Fortunately, we already had another cruise booked which was quite enjoyable and restored our faith.  We've since sailed two more times on the Getaway and never repeated that bad experience.

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