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  1. A slightly different question... What about prices on board? I know pre-paying is generally cheaper for things that can be purchased before the cruise sailing, but are there any tips for things that can only be purchased on board? For example, spa treatments are usually cheaper on port days. Duty-Free alcohol prices generally do not change, so you might as well buy early if you know what you want. (BTW, if you find it cheaper in port, snap a picture and you will get a price adjustment.)

     

    I'm not familiar with RCL, so fire away. I'm particularly interested if there's a discount on laundry offered. NCL used to have a deal where you can fill a bag for one price. Trying to stuff as much clothing in that bag as possible was fun.

  2. 46 minutes ago, ScottVV said:

     

    The Café Promenade has pizza... 

     

    11 minutes ago, ramja96 said:

    Cafe Promenade isn't open 24 hours, though. I think that was their point. If I remember correctly, CP and Sorrento's is only open until about 1:00 or 2:00am. Re-opens at around 6:30-7:00am.

     

    I found a copy of the cruise planner from a while back. Looks like Sorrentos is the only thing open late night.

     

    late-night-Page-05.jpg

  3. 7 hours ago, danny8826 said:

     

    I'm using a Sony XA Ultra (Model F3213)

    The android version is 7.0

     

    Thank you,

    Danny

     

    Sorry to say that there is practically zero third party support for this phone.

     

    Here is something else you can try. Download the apk from your web browser: https://apkpure.com/royal-iq/com.royalcaribbean.iq

     

    Transfer it to your phone's internal memory and then sideload it. Your phone may not allow sideloading by default, but that can be changed in the settings: https://www.xda-developers.com/sideload-apps-how-to/

     

    It's worth a shot. Maybe the app will work even though the Google Play store thinks it won't

  4. 51 minutes ago, Sitzmark said:

    The first hand knowledge I mentioned in an earlier post involved having security come to open a safe for us.  It took quite a while due to the limited number of people with the ability to open it.  Once it was opened no further action was required on the part of security, the codes were automatically wiped.

     

    The only part of the manual that mentions codes being wiped was if the reset button is pressed. This raises yet another issue. What if the safe is reset? The master code is also reset. Does that imply that the master code is now a default? I won't make that claim as certain, but it's a possibility that resetting the safe before the customer enters and sets their temporary code is a backdoor into the safe.

  5. 6 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

    And as someone who has maintained safes like this on ships (not this exact model)

     

     

    WARNING: Opinion incoming. Not fact.

     

    6 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

    and who can read an operator's manual, while the safe can be opened by any of the means you mention, it cannot be locked again unless one of two things is done:  either the "master key" is used and the "permanent code" is entered to open the safe, and then it can be locked using the permanent code, not the cabin occupant's temporary code.  Or, a "temporary code" is input to lock it.  Either way, the OP would never be able to open the safe again using their "temporary code".  The "temporary code" that the occupant chooses is "reset" every time the safe is opened, by the entry of a code (either the same or different) when locking.  The main facet is that whatever is used to lock the safe is what is needed to open the safe.  Since the OP never mentioned having to have someone come and reset the safe, their "temporary code" was still valid and no one had opened their safe.  Even when opened using the "hard key" (the metal, mechanical key), to close and lock the safe, a "temporary code" must be entered, and this would have to match the OP's code.

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    Since you say you can "read an operator's model," please copy and paste the part of the manual that states that. We'll wait.

  6. 26 minutes ago, akcruz said:

     

    Every safe we have ever used on a ship you have had to enter a code or swipe a card to LOCK the safe, then use the same method to open it, basically resetting the entry method each time the safe is opened.  If someone on the ship overrode whatever to open it, then how did they close it with the same information the OP used?  If they used any other method than what the OP did they would have known the next time they attempted to open the safe.

     

     

    Should we believe you who has no actual knowledge of how it actually works, just your unfounded assumptions or the literal manual to the actual safes used on the ship? Hmmmm... Tough call.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said:

    Read the link you posted. To set a permanent code requires key. 

     

    You can open it with the code, the owner key, a master key, OR a physical key. Not a combination of those methods. EITHER of them. Anyone on the ship who knows the code doesn't need any keys to open the safe. Anyone with a key doesn't need the code. Nowhere in the manual does it say the temporary code, which is what the passenger is using, is reset if any other method to gain entry is used. YOU WILL NOT KNOW YOUR SAFE HAS BEEN OPENED BY THE STAFF!

  8. 1 hour ago, Seville2Cabo said:

    The key is needed to set a permanent code.  You make it sound like the stewards just set a code for all their rooms so they can shop.  Not true. 

    I've bought 2 safes at the same time.  They had different keys.

     

    No, it isn't. The permanent code can be erased and reset. I don't care about your safes. I'm talking about RCL's safes.

  9. I found the company that makes the safes for RCL by looking at helpful room tour videos people post on YouTube. I found a manual for the safes used on the ship. OH...MY...GOODNESS. There are MULTIPLE ways this safe can be opened other than the temporary code used by the person saying in the room. There are two electronic keys, a permanent code that can be set by anyone, and a mechanical key bypass!

     

    https://www.indelwebastomarine.com/fileadmin/webasto_files/documents/IndelWebastoMarine/Manuals/SAFE_10E_30E_Operating_Instuctions.pdf

  10. 48 minutes ago, Sitzmark said:

    But the original poster didn't indicate the safe was found open.  They were unaware anyone accessed the safe suggesting that not only was it locked, but that their own code still worked.  The only methods for accessing these that I've seen, including first hand experience, resulted in the original locking code being wiped.  So please share how the thief opens the safe, then re-locks it without erasing the original code.  Without the ability to do this, I have to believe that the safe was not broken into.  

     

    Where did the OP say any of that? How do you know the safe code gets reset after it's been opened when you don't even know how it was opened? (Yes, it is possible to open hotel safes with the original code is intact depending on the design and which vulnerability was used.) You don't even know if an administrator code was used. The only thing that's known is that there was a theft.

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