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I would have booked a Terrazza if available

Just booked the maiden sailing out of NYC. All the Terrazza cabins were sold out, so I grabbed one of the square inside cabins on deck 2. 4 days? I'll be fine with one of the large square inside. I usually go Havana (or Terrazza on the Venezia sailing I have in October).

exactly my thoughts on the havana on the excel as well. And sometimes it isnt THAT much of a price differential on the excel. Sometimes it can be multiples of the standard cabin on the vistas.

NY here, and personally I dont feel that. But I am also quite blunt myself and have little tolerance for people moving slowly, so there's always that.

unless it is XO or XR/18 I dont drink it. I dont get the fascination with crown royal.

The best 'secret' is that the vistas have the havana area. DW and I love the Havana cabins.

Havana area (outside anyway) has been fully closed off for about 3 years now. It is Carnival's version of a ship within a ship.

so I was partially correct, but more of a luxury product vs viking.

Just booked a 9 day.

This link really explains it thoroughly. https://help.goccl.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8828/~/carnival-venezia-(vx)-terrazza-carnevale-staterooms-and-experience Carnival is introducing the Terrazza Carnevale experience inside and out on the Carnival Venezia. Terrazza Carnevale Enjoy the best views on board at Terrazza Carnevale, a stunning terraced deck featuring comfortable sofas, private alcoves, two whirlpools and a bar serving refreshing cocktails and Italian wines. By night, enjoy the ambiance of a chic rooftop bar under the stars as you mingle with new found friends to the sounds of live music. Terrazza Staterooms The Carnival Venezia will offer a wide variety of well-appointed, beautifully designed staterooms. Terrazza Cabanas feature accommodations with private outdoor patio cabanas that face the expanded lanai ocean-air outdoor promenade and offer magnificent sea views. The ocean-air promenade alongside the cabana staterooms will be for the exclusive use of guests in these staterooms. Children must be 12 years of age or older in order to cruise in a these staterooms. The Terrazza Carnevale staterooms and experience is designed to be a place where guests can relax and recharge in a more intimate and private setting and the age requirement will enable us to sustain the desired atmosphere. Exclusive daytime access to Terrazza Carnevale; guests under 21 must be accompanied by an adult. The inside bar area is also marked as an exclusive area as of right now. Unlike Havana, only guests booked in Terrazza can use the bar (at least according to goccl).

I personally believe (and this is only an assumption) that it is going to like an Italian version of Viking Ocean. Viking already offers a European product, so guess that is easy for me to make that assumption in that comparison. The ships are roughly the same size.

ok i thought so

I think there are hot tubs back there, on the sides. Looks like they are on the very edges. On the top photo, taken at night, appears one is on the left side of the photo. unless that is a reflection in the glass that I am seeing

the issue I see is that these are obviously vista class ships, and those used to vista class will be expecting an experience similar to Havana. I Like the Havana area ,and would book in the terrazza area. I can see an issue occurring when someone does not do research and automatically assumes it would be like the Havana area. This issue is twofold (and possibly three). One, Carnival could do a better job confirming the changes that could occur on this ship. Two, Guests should do research ahead of time instead of automatically assuming it will be Havana. I found these pics by looking at Costa deck plans and doing google searches. Three, see two and assume it *could* end up with a pool back there.

they arent trying to *go after* the Y/C guest so to speak, they are trying to keep them in house and keep them from going to Regent and Seabourn. It is a logical progression. There is some bleed in there (I know some pax that sail on both Regent and Carnival, but that is the exception, not the norm)

I did this back before FDR re-did the loyalty tiers, and plat was the top. DW and I were immediately matched to black. We have done quite a few more since then.

Meraviglia is a stunningly beautiful ship, but can feel crowded when at capacity. It is also quite inward facing. The promenade design funnels everybody through the center of the ship (like a Royal Caribbean ship, with the royal promenade). It also does not have an outdoor promenade area like a vista ship. HOWEVER... you have more pools, and the Yacht Club is superior to the Havana area. Havana is great (DW and I love it), but it does not have a private restaurant, butler service, and covered pool. Meraviglia is roughly the same size as an Excel ship, so at times it can (and does) feel like you are cruising with 5000 people.

this is what is back there

this is correct. Unless Carnival adds one, it is a private lounge area.

Other people have made similar comments about Seaside being dark as well. personally I find it relaxing when it is like that.

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I can give a detailed write up later. But yes, we did. We love MSC.

Yes. I have sailed on Meraviglia. Inaugural season Mediterranean cruise.

Liberty is, by definition, a megaship. Quantum is only about 15,000 GRT larger and less than 400 pax more. If pax load is what you are using as a measure, Norwegian Breakaway (also considered a megaship) is more in line, but is roughly 23,000 GRT smaller than quantum. midsize is falling around the 100,000 GRT mark. Not to mention, Odyssey OTS (quantum class) tenders into Grand Cayman as well.

after 40 some cruises, DW and I sail on a variety of lines. We also visit all inclusive resorts. You will find the more you cruise, the more you sail on different lines.