CowPrincess Posted October 3, 2009 #101 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Let bring the overweight people into the argument. How about some smokers or perfume over users too? Uh-oh, the start of "the thread that will never die" :D It's my right to eat myself to 300% of my optimal body weight. It is my right to pollute everyone's air by smoking in non-smoking areas. And yes, it is my right to bathe in perfume, so my perfume arrives in a venue 45 seconds before I do. Hey, it's MY vacation. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted October 3, 2009 #102 Share Posted October 3, 2009 ......................... I do stand by my comment that I think it is silly for HAL to try to enforce the "formal" dress code everywhere on the ship, given that there are non-formal choices for avoiding the formal nights in the MDR. What does HAL expect, that someone eating in the Lido will then immediately scurry back to their cabin, and not be seen in the public areas till the next morning? Just a heads up, HAL requests their pax to observe the dress code throughout the entire evening but, apart from the main dining room (and even there enforcement is inconsistent at best), sometimes the Pinnacle Grill and rarely the Ocean Bar (apparently when ordering drinks), they do not enforce the "code" (unless things have drastically changed recently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted October 3, 2009 #103 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Just a heads up, HAL requests their pax to observe the dress code throughout the entire evening but, apart from the main dining room (and even there enforcement is inconsistent at best), sometimes the Pinnacle Grill and rarely the Ocean Bar (apparently when ordering drinks), they do not enforce the "code" (unless things have drastically changed recently). Then let me re-state as "I think it is silly for HAL to expect the code will be followed...." :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted October 3, 2009 #104 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Uh-oh, the start of "the thread that will never die" :D It's my right to eat myself to 300% of my optimal body weight. It is my right to pollute everyone's air by smoking in non-smoking areas. And yes, it is my right to bathe in perfume, so my perfume arrives in a venue 45 seconds before I do. Hey, it's MY vacation. :D Wow you sound like some of the women my mom plays Canasta with in Del Rey Beach *LOL* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted October 3, 2009 #105 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Then let me re-state as "I think it is silly for HAL to expect the code will be followed...." :) They (HAL) request it to be followed in order to "compliment our fellow pax" The issue here is that some choose not to follow that request and then the proverbial can of night crawlers is opened;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted October 3, 2009 #106 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Uh-oh, the start of "the thread that will never die" :D It's my right to eat myself to 300% of my optimal body weight. It is my right to pollute everyone's air by smoking in non-smoking areas. And yes, it is my right to bathe in perfume, so my perfume arrives in a venue 45 seconds before I do. Hey, it's MY vacation. :D So true. Repeat after me...me...me...it's all about me:D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted October 3, 2009 #107 Share Posted October 3, 2009 But you are saying anyone that dresses up is a moron...like you say it s/b be a persons choice. I'm always wondering why people choose to cruise with a formal cruise line when it's so far from what you want to aspire to. Lets bring the overweight people into the argument. How about some smokers or perfume over users too? I.E.-When I was 17,I worked in the summer time 6 nights a week in a movie theater..if you remember (60's-70's),that was when they were called "ushers".I would either tear the ticket up,OR show them to their seats.Guess what I did on my ONE night off? Yep,that's right- I took my girlfriend TO THE MOVIES because we got in free....my father said to me-"so-on your ONE night off,you take Joanie to the movies???Don't be a moron-can't you think of something classier or more original? That's like the POSTMAN on his day off he takes a walk"....that is what I mean-for ME,it seems moronic to dress formally on vacation....didn't do that in Hawaii,Mexico,London,etc....as for the cruise line,the fact that HAL and now most others are doing "my time/any time dining" shows they moving towards a more casual,eat when & where you want" atmosphere,which I personally much prefer...just like at a resort,I would choose what time I eat,where I eat,with whom I eat,and now you can even choose WHAT you eat with the more dining options available...we also choose cruise lines now (after cruising all but Costa) based more on the itinerary and deal...we have favorites,but now we pay attention to what I mentioned and sometimes the ship itself (layout,amenities,cabins,dining options,entertainment,etc..),,sorry if I offended YOU...but another poster said it:this debate over dressing in the MDR's has been going on since cruise lines eased their dress codes in the early 2000-2001 season..I welcome it.. A man about 3 years ago told me on formal night (he wasn't dressed formal at all..):"I donned a dark suit & tie for 45 years..now I wear suits and ties at only funerals and weddings... Now,for once in my life,I decided to be comfortable.." Amen to that..... Big Al Still Cruising After All These Years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted October 3, 2009 #108 Share Posted October 3, 2009 ... dressing up on my VACATION would be like the Postman on his day off,he takes a walk...I dress EVERY day in the hot Florida heat & humidity,CONSTANTLY uncomfortable-only a moron would do the same on their cruise vacation... I live in hot, humid Texas. I dress up every Sunday in suite in clerics. I wear slacks and clerics most days. When on vacation I don't wear clerics except on Formal Nights and Sundays and if I happen to be working on that cruise. Otherwise, I wear slacks and silk prints/button down shirts/ etc. on Smart Casual nights, and Tuxedo with bow tie or Nehru with clericals on Formal Nights.' Am I a moron because I dress up as much, if not more-so, on cruises as I do in "everyday life"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usha Posted October 3, 2009 #109 Share Posted October 3, 2009 My husband & I are a couple of morons who dress formally on formal night, and moronically stay dressed up throughout the evening.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted October 3, 2009 #110 Share Posted October 3, 2009 We have late dinner & see no reason to change after dinner, unless we were going for a walk on deck...Then I would change from heels to flats & perhaps put on a warmer wrap.. When the shows were after dinner, we honestly enjoyed sitting out on the Promenade deck as late as possible before we had to get showered & dressed for dinner..It's so peaceful at that time.:):). I honestly don't care what others do...However, in my opinion someone in shorts & tee-shirts in the public lounges including the show & casino in the evening would be in the minority...If they are comfortable with that, who am I to judge them.. Cheers..:):)Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator83 Posted October 3, 2009 #111 Share Posted October 3, 2009 1. HAL has a recommended dress code! That's a fact! It has been published here ad nauseum. Frequent fliers to this site of sites know it by heart and can recite it when awakened from a sleepy stupor at 0321 hours. 2. Said dress code is 'enforced' by HAL staff on formal nights in the main dining room, albeit inconsistently. I've also heard it enforced inside the Pinnacle Grill, albeit inconsistently. 3. That means if you don't dress per 'da code' you run the risk of being send to your room without passing 'go' and w/o collecting $200 4. HAL requests that you observe the suggested dress code throughout the entire evening 'in order to complement your fellow guests'. There are guests (as we can see here) who choose not to observe the 'suggested' code. That's their decision and HAL doesn't keel-haul them for making it. I've never see anyone dressed in anything less than formal kicked out of the Crow's Nest, Casino, Show Lounge, you name it, on a formal night. 5. If you don't want to dress up on formal night, you have the option to dine in the Lido restaurant (in Canaletto on those dam ships that offer it) and/or order room service. The stuff about only being allowed only on the Lido (and other open) deck(s) is great but not wrtitten down anywhere. Plus, you've gotta be able to get to the Lido without having to rappel down the exterior of the ship to get there. In other words, we, the ones who dress up, will run into pax who are not dressed up. 6. Last time I checked, those that do adhere to the dress code outnumber those that don't. On HAL ships, there's still that atmosphere, that ambiance. that folks look for on formal night. Yes, you might see some shorts, you might see some t-shirts but it shouldn't run your vacation! 7. Don't sweat the small stuff! Life's too short!:cool: Nice post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scopewest Posted October 3, 2009 #112 Share Posted October 3, 2009 It'll be interesting to see how dressed up people are on formal nights on my cruise this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator83 Posted October 3, 2009 #113 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Well, feel free to may disagree wiith but you are also disagreeing with HAL's stated dress code. HAl is sort of contradicting themselves by sayiing you can wear one thing in the Lido and then saying you can't wear it the rest of the night in public places. That's why it just doesn't make sense to me. But as I stated before, I eat in the MDR and stay dressed in what is requested. HAL's dress code says exacly that: the dress code applies to the public areas. Then the dress code should apply to the Lido too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator83 Posted October 3, 2009 #114 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The only things the mar our formal night are slow/bad service, bad or poorly prepared food, and any cruise line that still has that baked alaska parade, or major league complainers/braggers as tablemates. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator83 Posted October 3, 2009 #115 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Lets bring the overweight people into the argument. How about some smokers or perfume over users too? Don't get me started on the perfume over users....that does ruin my cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsat Posted October 3, 2009 #116 Share Posted October 3, 2009 while my husband and i do adhere to the dress codes, we find the people who don't infinitely amusing. there was leon on a new year's eve cruise. while his wife wore a lovely dress, he came to formal dinner in a pair of black shorts, a collarless tee shirt and thong sandals. i can't remember what anyone else wore that night, but i'll always remember leon. three years later and he still elicits a good laugh from us. lighten up people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams62 Posted October 3, 2009 #117 Share Posted October 3, 2009 while my husband and i do adhere to the dress codes, we find the people who don't infinitely amusing. there was leon on a new year's eve cruise. while his wife wore a lovely dress, he came to formal dinner in a pair of black shorts, a collarless tee shirt and thong sandals. i can't remember what anyone else wore that night, but i'll always remember leon. three years later and he still elicits a good laugh from us. lighten up people! Last year on Christmas Eve it was a formal night and everybody is dressed to the nines. The crows nest is having an american idol night and the crows nest is standing room only. There he is sitting at the bar "Mr. Clueless" sitting at the bar in basketball shorts,sneakers and ball cap turned backward while everybody is dressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetravellers Posted October 3, 2009 #118 Share Posted October 3, 2009 We did a 3 night cruise out of PC in FL last year and were very surprised to find a lot of people had changed out of formal attire after dinner. It hadn't even occurred to us to do so. I suddenly felt very foreign!!:D Gail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted October 3, 2009 #119 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Last year on Christmas Eve it was a formal night and everybody is dressed to the nines. The crows nest is having an american idol night and the crows nest is standing room only. There he is sitting at the bar "Mr. Clueless" sitting at the bar in basketball shorts,sneakers and ball cap turned backward while everybody is dressed. You weren't supposed to notice him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted October 3, 2009 #120 Share Posted October 3, 2009 So here is the thing...maybe Mr. Clueless was not so clueless. Perhaps he knew the drill but was happy dressed as he was (mind you, he should not have been wearing a hat indoors). He was only Mr. Clueless because that is how you judged him. And he probably could not care less how others judged him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suse Posted October 3, 2009 #121 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Well, all those who complain about their formal clothing. I think if you buy some really, really, good shoes, you know, spend some serious dough, then you will be happier. No need to fret then. Oh, I know, there will be a flame here, how could you say that!!!!!!!!!!!!! I get my shoes for 29 cents at Walmart and all that. But, let's be real. If you are uncomfortable in your shoes and clothes, go shopping somewhere good.:) This is such a funny thread. It didn't disintegrate yet into the smoking and perfume....................ack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted October 3, 2009 #122 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Last year on Christmas Eve it was a formal night and everybody is dressed to the nines. The crows nest is having an american idol night and the crows nest is standing room only. There he is sitting at the bar "Mr. Clueless" sitting at the bar in basketball shorts,sneakers and ball cap turned backward while everybody is dressed. Hey! Watch out before you judge! Maybe the airline lost his luggage :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsat Posted October 3, 2009 #123 Share Posted October 3, 2009 bet leon and the basketball dude are not writing posts about us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted October 3, 2009 #124 Share Posted October 3, 2009 So here is the thing...maybe Mr. Clueless was not so clueless. Perhaps he knew the drill but was happy dressed as he was (mind you, he should not have been wearing a hat indoors). He was only Mr. Clueless because that is how you judged him. And he probably could not care less how others judged him. Why shouldn't he have been wearing a hat indoors? His vacation His hat His head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted October 3, 2009 #125 Share Posted October 3, 2009 bet leon and the basketball dude are not writing posts about us! Sure they are. Oh, maybe not them specifically ... but others who are like them, certainly. From whence do you think all the "snob" and "snooty" judgements come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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