Want to work for Carnival?

[Nunu]

Applicants should read Cruise Confidential first and then pray they get better sleeping arrangements!!!

 

Or read the article in Maxim, it sounds like a party...

[pnjkeith]

It's considered appropriate to tip a dealer if you're leaving a table. Proper ettiquette and all that. Ultimately, it's your choice. But it might be a good reason to stick to the electronic games if you're gratuity dis-inclined.

 

Did I miss something here? I said I don't play Blackjack on Carnival, so why would I tip the dealers at all? What made you think I needed a tipping lesson?

[LemurCat]

Did I miss something here? I said I don't play Blackjack on Carnival, so why would I tip the dealers at all? What made you think I needed a tipping lesson?

 

Because there are more table games (and thus more kinds of dealers) than just blackjack. :rolleyes:

[jimbo5544]

It's considered appropriate to tip a dealer if you're leaving a table. Proper ettiquette and all that. Ultimately, it's your choice. But it might be a good reason to stick to the electronic games if you're gratuity dis-inclined.

Oh man....gratuity challenged.....I love it!:D

[Crusin6]

Or read the article in Maxim, it sounds like a party...

their lifestyle actually made me ill....

[pnjkeith]

Because there are more table games (and thus more kinds of dealers) than just blackjack. :rolleyes:

 

Huh? oh nevermind

[Nunu]

their lifestyle actually made me ill....

Made me remember high school :eek:

[sheshasmom]

We used to go on a gabbling boat out into international waters a few years back (now out of business) Went a lot and got to know the dealers, one of them told me they make $3.18 an hour and their tips, don't know if that is is true or not just what I was told. If it is true that is just crazy 3.18 x 8= 25.44 and they don't get food or room and board.

[koop12]

I only make about $1,800.00 per month and I have to pay extraordinarily high rent to boot, so in all honesty, this is actually quite a decent gig.

 

On the surface, $10 per day plus tips seems a little outrageous, but once you see the monthly figures, it really isn't a bad deal...

 

True, but how many hours a week and days a week do you work to earn that? How many hours a days a week do cruise ship employees work to earn it?

[Traveler353]

We used to go on a gabbling boat out into international waters a few years back (now out of business) Went a lot and got to know the dealers, one of them told me they make $3.18 an hour and their tips, don't know if that is is true or not just what I was told. If it is true that is just crazy 3.18 x 8= 25.44 and they don't get food or room and board.

 

That is the norm in the Casino industry on land. Minimum wage or less and not allowed to work enough hours for full benifits. Non-manageral casino employees live on their tips. Living in a casino town I have many friends and neighbors that work in the local casino industry. You would be surprised how much they bring home weekly "only earning minumum wage". I have one neighbor that is a dealer, anything less than $5000 take home a month is a bad month. So no reason to feel sorry for them.

[Nunu]

So no reason to feel sorry for them.

 

Plus 1.

[Swimware27]

This may seem low by American standards, but in most parts of the world, and where most cruise employees are recruited, 1500.00 a month is enough to support their families and put their children thru college. These are highly coveted jobs.

[sheshasmom]

Don't feel sorry for them, that number just sounds crazy. They must pool there tips, I don't see people tipping a lot money at my $15 blackjack table, must be the high rollers.

[CasinoQueen]

Hello everyone,

 

I am a dealer at a Casino in St. Louis Mo. So let me jump in on this thread. I bring home about $1000 every two weeks. ($300 from the company $700 from you) This is middle of the road on the pay scale. Most Casino's do pool the Dealers tips. The reason is because a dealer on a $5 min. table will make less in tips than a dealer on a $25 or $100 min. table. (please prove me wrong on this :) All dealers do the same job per table and in order to be fair to all and provide you with the best customer service we pool our tips. Being a dealer is a extremely hard job---Company wants to win, players want to win, some customers want a friendly dealer, some want a quiet dealer, you have to keep track of all aspects of the game at all time...money, chips, cards, dice players, bets. Your attention must be perfect and in 10 directions at once and your body is always in motion.

 

Please tip your dealers .....Thank you

[Traveler353]

Hello everyone,

 

I am a dealer at a Casino in St. Louis Mo. So let me jump in on this thread. I bring home about $1000 every two weeks. ($300 from the company $700 from you) This is middle of the road on the pay scale. Most Casino's do pool the Dealers tips. The reason is because a dealer on a $5 min. table will make less in tips than a dealer on a $25 or $100 min. table. (please prove me wrong on this :) All dealers do the same job per table and in order to be fair to all and provide you with the best customer service we pool our tips. Being a dealer is a extremely hard job---Company wants to win, players want to win, some customers want a friendly dealer, some want a quiet dealer, you have to keep track of all aspects of the game at all time...money, chips, cards, dice players, bets. Your attention must be perfect and in 10 directions at once and your body is always in motion.

 

Please tip your dealers .....Thank you

 

For the life of me I cannot figure out dealers keep track of every detail that it takes to do their job. I have trouble keeping track of a couple of cards. I guess that is why I am such a crappy card player.:p

[Traveler353]

Don't feel sorry for them, that number just sounds crazy. They must pool there tips, I don't see people tipping a lot money at my $15 blackjack table, must be the high rollers.

 

Tips are generaly pooled, except on some very special high roller tables and rooms. The neighbor that I mentioned is a high roller poker dealer, he does not have to share his tips with other dealers when he is working the special guest. When he works the pit he shares tips just like everyone else.

[sheshasmom]

For the life of me I cannot figure out dealers keep track of every detail that it takes to do their job. I have trouble keeping track of a couple of cards. I guess that is why I am such a crappy card player.:p

 

 

want to come over and play some poker;)

 

 

I have always told my dh to be a dealer so they would pay him instead of him paying them.

[Magic City Cruiser]

This may seem low by American standards, but in most parts of the world, and where most cruise employees are recruited, 1500.00 a month is enough to support their families and put their children thru college. These are highly coveted jobs.

 

I just got off a cruise with a friend from Macedonia. When I mentioned the tipping thing because most staff were underpaid according to our standards, she said that the staff's wages were about 3 times what they could make in that region. She was quite popular with the staff and had several conversations with them and while they all agreed that it was long hours and tedius being on the boat so long, they were very happy to have the jobs.

[Traveler353]

want to come over and play some poker;)

 

 

I have always told my dh to be a dealer so they would pay him instead of him paying them.

 

Thanks, but I will have to pass. I learned a long time ago that it was not wise for me to play poker with real money.

[scgamecock]

I wouldn't work for $10/hr plus tips.

 

Me either! Especially not the insane 16 hours per day, 7 days a week for months on end like the staff has to work on the ship.

[Sherrybaby412]

Me either! Especially not the insane 16 hours per day, 7 days a week for months on end like the staff has to work on the ship.

 

The casinos are closed when in port. So no work then. Seriously 300.00 a month and no bills? Not including tips. Not a bad gig.

 

I'm not a gambler and did not know about tipping them. If I ever do gamble. I will now.

[salty dingo]

I wouldn't work for $10/hr plus tips.

The tips can add up... and the food and accommodation really add up. Since you never got paid for your food and housing, it's TAX FREE! How about that - not too many ways to beat the tax man but that is surely one way.

 

Think of it like this... if you earn 100 units a day and you pay a total of 90 units a day in rent/mortgage, car payment, and food, you are left with 10 to put in the bank (if you are lucky - lots of people have zero or less than zero when they are done.)

 

So let's say they get $50 a day in tips, from all the kids they watch, many of whom have parents who will tip, then you are talking about putting $420 a week (before taxes) into the bank. Little to no expenses.

 

And the tax man will tax these folks very low, if at all, because they earn so little. They may even qualify for a tax refund. Not even sure if the tips have to be reported (yes, I know they SHOULD be, but ARE they?)

 

So, it's not all that bad a job!

[joebat1]

Me either! Especially not the insane 16 hours per day, 7 days a week for months on end like the staff has to work on the ship.

 

Helloooooooooooooooo !! We are talking about casino dealers. The Casinos are closed while in port, and most have the day off..

These people are like most of us... they CHOSE to work for the very desirable cruise line jobs. For so many people on this board it is a total life commitment to crusade for tips for the poor under privileged cruise line employee...

 

If we pay $ 1,000.oo per month rent/mortgage payments,(After taxes) $ 500.00 or so for food,(after taxes) $ 250.00 to $300.00 a month for transportation & car insurance,(after taxes), a $100.00 a month property taxes(after taxes), $ 100.00 a month clothing allowance (after taxes) $ 300.00 to $ 400.00 a month utilities(after taxes) etc., etc....PLUS 40% federal & state taxes + local sales tax were applicable. That is $ 2,400.00 a month for bare necessities (after taxes) meaning about $ 4000.00 monthly PRE-tax earnings for barely average existence. AND Carnival says to expect $ 1500.00 per month earning after the 6 month period.. $ 5,500.00 a month.. $ 66,000.00 a year based on tips and freebie ~~!!~~

Gezzzzzzz, we should all double tip the poor souls because they were LUCKY enough to land one of the jobs over all the other applicant from the third world countries..... No wonder there are so many 10 & 15 year veteran on the crew ~~!!~~

I have NEVER heard a crew member complain about their wages or the long hours... the single point they complain about most is being away from their families.

[G'ma]

I find that hard to believe someone would work for $10 a day :(

 

My son was a craps dealer for several years. He worked at one of the casinos in Atlantic City....

 

He worked one contract on a cruise ship back in the 80's - had a great time, made some good friends and enjoyed himself. He made a LOT of money from tips......almost as much as he did in the land based casino in AC....where he was pulling in almost 1000.00 a week.

 

He eventually tired of the whole thing and moved on - and moved to Maui where he makes a killiing running a business that cleans rental condos....but he has great memories of the good times that one year he worked on a ship.

 

Dealers put in long, long hours....but, unlike some other employees on the ship, have a lot of downtime to enjoy themselves ashore....

[Heirloom]

It amazes me how MOST of the players on casino tables act like they don't understand tipping the dealers.

 

The same people no doubt stiff waiters, doormen, taxis, etc on a regular basis.

 

$10 per DAY wages.......that's less than $ 1 /hr. No family, very cramped rooms. 6-8 months, 7 days/week.

 

Gamblers spending a few thousand bucks for a cruise.......and even when they're winning at a table, drinking $ 5 cocktails, won't from time to time put a one buck chip down so dealer can play along with you and maybe turn it into $ 2.

 

Thanks, you stiffers ! So proud of you and your success . Glad it makes you happy to look down upon people that struggle to make a living !