Price Drop NOT lol

[pepsicruiser]

When booking first opened I booked B1 on 9/25/10 for $1299. I looked today and now $1829pp YIKES!!! Guess I won't bother looking for price drops lol.

[TrikeRider]

I noticed that, too, on my sailing - it has increased $400 PP. I still monitor it for price drops but I doubt it will fall below what I paid.

[dougp26364]

I've been looking at cruises for next January as was surprised to see Alure's pricing at about what we paid when we booked our Oasis cabin the first day reservations were available to Diamond members. I thought about it briefly, then realized that I'm just not that fond of the ports of call these ships visit. I guess I'll wait to see if we're wowed enough by the ship to book another cruise just for the ship. I know we'll enjoy the ship but, neither of us are that big on sailing just for the ship much like neither of us are into traveling to a destination just for the resort.

[suni]

I agree ! The prices for the C1 cabin have gone up $1150.00 PER PERSON since we booked ! I cannot tell about the JS since it has been sold out for months. We are considering the cruise again for next year, but at these prices we will wait to see if we fall in love with the whole experience. With this level of investment....I am hoping for love at first site! ;)

[Mareng]

The RCI Senior MGT are probably worried that the Finnish Government is going to foreclose on the mortgage on Oasis or not stump up to fund the Allure unless the financial success promised on the Oasis can be quickly demonstrated.;)

[Jt4428]

In March of 09, I booked my Liberty cruise that we took in Nov 09 and also booked 2 connecting balcony rooms on Oasis at the same time for Nov 2010. The Oasis price was only $350 more in total than the 2 connecting rooms I had on the Liberty. I didn't realize what a great price I got until I started checking the website. It's higher than what I'm paying by about $1,100 for each room. Don't expect any price drop, but will keep checking. Just glad I booked when I did.

[Puffinater]

October 2010 pricing has also gone crazy and many cabins are now listed as N/A. Seems some of the sailing are selling very well.

[janetz]

Our oceanview for Oct went up by 900.00!

[irishgirl]

I checked this out a few days ago and asked my TA about it. I paid $1129 for a D6 balcony when I booked a year ago, today it's going for $1821.

 

He said he's been seeing an increase in lots of cruises for 2010. Although there's still many deals out there, the Oasis seems to be rising steadily.

 

Judy

[ken987]

I'll chime in...

 

D5 on Oasis for President's Week in February...paid 1490 in Dec of 08.

 

Checked last week...it was $2619 a person...craaaaaaazy.

[Mareng]

October 2010 pricing has also gone crazy and many cabins are now listed as N/A. Seems some of the sailing are selling very well.

 

I'm afraid that it is common practice among the cruise lines to take cabins out of available itinerary (especially on their new ships to create an artificial impresion of high demand) so that they can dupe the unsuspecting to pay super inflated prices for the "remaining” cabins, If you are desperate to go on the Oasis in October 2010. I would suggest that you check the prices in August and September when the held back cabins will be released back to the market and availability will be significantly eased

[Fortypluscruiser]

I'm afraid that it is common practice among the cruise lines to take cabins out of available itinerary (especially on their new ships to create an artificial impresion of high demand)

 

They are not hiding inventory (I assume that's what you meant) on many dates -- they must account for block space that MIGHT sell. If it does not, then it will come back later and RCCL will price it at what seems appropriate at the time given the amount of time remaining to sell it. I wouldn't expect this with Oasis. RCCL is actually recalling block inventory early for certain dates including during Fall 2010 because they don't have enough to sell themselves. Block inventory finds may become very rare in the near future as a result.

[Mareng]

They they must account for block space that MIGHT sell.

 

You think?

Who dictates this- there is certainly NO US government body overseeing the practices of these companies. The cruise line has ultimate control over it's cabin inventory and can simply assign cabin blocks to non existent work crews months in advance for potential projects that then get cancelled at the last minute for whetever reason to jack up the price as high as possible, believe me I've seen it done on more than one occasion and in more than one cruise line.

 

Just a case of caveat emptor

 

[Fortypluscruiser]

.Who dictates this- there is certainly NO US government body overseeing the practices of these companies. The cruise line has ultimate control over it's cabin inventory and can simply assign cabin blocks to non existent work crews months in advance for potential projects that then get cancelled at the last minute for whetever reason to jack up the price as high as possible, believe me I've seen it done on more than one occasion and in more than one cruise line

Just a case of caveat emptor

 

Huh? How do you think this stuff up? You want the folks on this thread to believe Oasis pricing is just a conspiracy against the consumer...and is based on what? Non existent work crews? Are you a Hollywood screenwriter?

[ALSEAU]

The RCI Senior MGT are probably worried that the Finnish Government is going to foreclose on the mortgage on Oasis or not stump up to fund the Allure unless the financial success promised on the Oasis can be quickly demonstrated.;)

 

I'm afraid that it is common practice among the cruise lines to take cabins out of available itinerary (especially on their new ships to create an artificial impresion of high demand) so that they can dupe the unsuspecting to pay super inflated prices for the "remaining” cabins, If you are desperate to go on the Oasis in October 2010. I would suggest that you check the prices in August and September when the held back cabins will be released back to the market and availability will be significantly eased

 

You think?

Who dictates this- there is certainly NO US government body overseeing the practices of these companies. The cruise line has ultimate control over it's cabin inventory and can simply assign cabin blocks to non existent work crews months in advance for potential projects that then get cancelled at the last minute for whetever reason to jack up the price as high as possible, believe me I've seen it done on more than one occasion and in more than one cruise line.

Just a case of caveat emptor

 

So RCI is worried that the Finnish Government is going to foreclose on them and that forces them to hide inventory by over charging for staterooms to dupe passengers into paying more for rooms. And because Obama hasn't created a US Government Czar to control the cruise lines, RCI is allowed to market their product as they see fit.

 

I was led to believe on these forums that RCI was in trouble because they weren't able to sale enough rooms for their sailings on the Oasis. I am shocked to find out that Oasis's pricing is a conspiracy against us consumers.

[Mareng]

Huh? How do you think this stuff up? You want the folks on this thread to believe Oasis pricing is just a conspiracy against the consumer...and is based on what? Non existent work crews? Are you a Hollywood screenwriter?

 

 

Actually an ex senior director ( and glad to be out of it) in several cruise lines with an insider knowledge of how the cruise industry really works (over 25 years experience) including all the scams and fiddles present and past run by the CDs on board to supplement their pay.

FYI I have actually been told to run and set up “ghost” work crews and projects by my management on numerous times.:mad:

 

Just saying don't be sucked in by the hype the price on the Oasis Will come down to reasonable levels once the Allure is on the Horizon they will be slashing the cost on Oasis.

[Fortypluscruiser]

Actually an ex senior director ( and glad to be out of it) in several cruise lines with an insider knowledge of how the cruise industry really works (over 25 years experience) including all the scams and fiddles present and past run by the CDs on board to supplement their pay.

 

FYI I have actually been told to run and set up “ghost” work crews and projects by my management on numerous times.:mad:

 

Just saying don't be sucked in by the hype the price on the Oasis Will come down to reasonable levels once the Allure is on the Horizon they will be slashing the cost on Oasis.

 

OK, so then you have absolutely no knowledge of future Oasis bookings and your theory (i.e. guess) is based information you supposedly acquired years ago? However, your theory is flawed. This is not OPEC who can just curtail production in order to get pricing up. The last thing RCCL wants is a bunch of inventory available close in that they will have to reduce in price in order to move. They much prefer to sell it early so that they have use of your deposit money and can minimize the liklihood that they will have to reduce pricing later and alienate folks who booked early. What happens when the Allure comes out will depend on just how much demand this product (Oasis class) has generated. Some people are hoping that Oasis class ends up being the Atlantis of cruise ships. If people love it, that could happen especially if the economy improves. But it will take time and an accumulation of experiences, press and word of mouth from early Oasis cruisers until we know that. If you think 2011 pricing is reasonable, you should probably book it now to lock that in. Deposits are refundable and RCCL will honor lower rates should they happen. If you think 2011 pricing is still too high, wait it out and see how things go. No matter what anyone says, it is too early to predict what will happen with two ships in 2011. But right now, even in this economy, RCCL has an unprecedented number of Fall 2010 Oasis bookings for this many months in advance. And all my information on these boards is from real data. I wouldn't waste my time or anyone else's with anything else.

[Puffinater]

If you are desperate to go on the Oasis in October 2010. I would suggest that you check the prices in August and September when the held back cabins will be released back to the market and availability will be significantly eased

 

 

No desperation here. Booked when pricing first came out and got cabins located where we wanted to be. I checked some other sailings and the price I paid is not much higher than several of the other ships sailings. Small price to pay for a cabin of our choice. Oh, and by the way...if the price drops guess what? I now have a lower price and the cabin of my choice. Hard to beat that.

 

My 2 cents...looks like ex employee just might equate to disgruntled ex employee.

[TrikeRider]

My D2 cabin just went up an additional $50 pp this week - a total of $450 pp over what I paid. :eek:

[catlady27]

For those that think the price is too high for the Oasis, don't go. For those that think that this is all a big scam by RC, don't go. Easy solution to what is essentially a non-problem. If I don't like something, I simply do not do it, but I don't go to message Boards and piss and moan about it. As I have said numerous times, most of the people on these boards have been on numerous cruises yet some still feel compelled to complain. However, there are people without jobs or even homes who can't even fathom going on a vacation, let alone a cruise, so get a little perspective would ya?

Catlady

[Mareng]

OK, so then you have absolutely no knowledge of future Oasis bookings and your theory (i.e. guess) is based information you supposedly acquired years ago? However, your theory is flawed. This is not OPEC who can just curtail production in order to get pricing up. The last thing RCCL wants is a bunch of inventory available close in that they will have to reduce in price in order to move. They much prefer to sell it early so that they have use of your deposit money and can minimize the liklihood that they will have to reduce pricing later and alienate folks who booked early. What happens when the Allure comes out will depend on just how much demand this product (Oasis class) has generated. Some people are hoping that Oasis class ends up being the Atlantis of cruise ships. If people love it, that could happen especially if the economy improves. But it will take time and an accumulation of experiences, press and word of mouth from early Oasis cruisers until we know that. If you think 2011 pricing is reasonable, you should probably book it now to lock that in. Deposits are refundable and RCCL will honor lower rates should they happen. If you think 2011 pricing is still too high, wait it out and see how things go. No matter what anyone says, it is too early to predict what will happen with two ships in 2011. But right now, even in this economy, RCCL has an unprecedented number of Fall 2010 Oasis bookings for this many months in advance. And all my information on these boards is from real data. I wouldn't waste my time or anyone else's with anything else.

 

Don't even pretend to know me. OK, so then you have absolutely no knowledge of future Oasis bookings and your theory (i.e. guess) is based information you supposedly acquired years ago? Wrong! I quit the industry this year as the over inflated egos of those involved in operating the companies were simply getting on my nerves ( the "mine is bigger than yours thing” is a such a total waste of resources and effort) and I felt that a less environmentally damaging line of work would better suit my mind set and aspirations so have now moved to the alternative energy industry where at least I feel my efforts have a less damaging effect on the world and ease my guilt with respect to the gross wastage onboard cruise ships and the damage they cause in adding no real value to the world. Did you now that a typical 120K GRT ship pumps approximately 5-6 Tonnes of pulped food into the sea every single day? With the # of starving people in the world this in my opinion simply cannot be justified. However, your theory is flawed. This is not OPEC who can just curtail production in order to get pricing up. The last thing RCCL wants is a bunch of inventory available close in that they will have to reduce in price in order to move The vast majority of revenue comes from the extras they charge for onboard, the actual ticket price is largely incidental on the company’s bottom line. They much prefer to sell it early so that they have use of your deposit money and can minimize the liklihood that they will have to reduce pricing later and alienate folks who booked early As long as the ship is full to capacity at sailing no matter how that is achieved the Company couldn’t care less if you have paid 3 years in advance and accrued all the interest on your money (obviously preferable for them) or if you paid on the gangway as you board. Alienation of their longterm loyal customers is the least of their worries. What happens when the Allure comes out will depend on just how much demand this product (Oasis class) has generated. Some people are hoping that Oasis class ends up being the Atlantis of cruise ships. If people love it, that could happen especially if the economy improves. But it will take time and an accumulation of experiences, press and word of mouth from early Oasis cruisers until we know that. If you think 2011 pricing is reasonable, you should probably book it now to lock that in If you have identified a specific cabin you want I agree. Deposits are refundable and RCCL will honor lower rates should they happen. If you think 2011 pricing is still too high, wait it out and see how things go. No matter what anyone says, it is too early to predict what will happen with two ships in 2011. But right now, even in this economy, RCCL has an unprecedented number of Fall 2010 Oasis bookings for this many months in advance. And all my information on these boards is from real data What source? I wouldn't waste my time or anyone else's with anything else

 

Bear in mind this is common practice for all companies not just RC.

[Fortypluscruiser]

The vast majority of revenue comes from the extras they charge for onboard, the actual ticket price is largely incidental on the company’sbottom line. As long as the ship is full to capacity at sailing no matter how that is achieved the Company couldn’t care less if you have paid 3 years in advance and accrued all the interest on your money (obviously preferable for them) or if you paid on the gangway as you board. Alienation of their longterm loyal customers is the least of their worries.

 

This is truly clueless and a waste of everyone's time. If you read my other posts, you can see what my motives are. I have no idea what yours are in writing this nonsense. If what you said above was true, then RCCL would not be going out tomorrow with several hundred empty cabins.

[Mareng]

Sorry FortyPluscruiser last post was totally unfair and unwarrented.

 

 

Following is more what I wanted to say.

 

Just have a look at some of the cruise lines results budgets and P&L accounts just buy one share of each and you'll be able to get them gratis and it will become evidently clear that on board revenue makes up for almost if not more than the ticket take just think for a second why the onboard costs and revenue extraction means are forever being driven up and expanded in ever more devious ways. Once they've got you on board you are at their mercy unless you want to join the masses at the free dining options. Reason for sailing tomorrow with several hundred empty cabins is that they will be filled with contract plumbing staff trying to fix the sewage systems smells in the aft end of the CP.

 

Rest assured Messers Fain Goldstein and Ariston could not care less about their return customers, as long as the ships are filled every week with fresh blood hemorrhaging cash into the ship’s systems they will be happy. After all Cruising is just another face of corporate America (although with a smiling face!)

 

Try reading Devils on the Deep Blue Sea by Kristoffer Garin (ISBN 0-670-03418-5) this will give you real warts and all description of the cruise industry from start to present day.

[Fortypluscruiser]

it will become evidently clear that on board revenue makes up for almost if not more than the ticket take

 

Gee, you said it was "the vast majority" just a couple of posts ago. The facts sure do change fast on this thread.

[Mareng]

I fully stand by my point that the ticket take is secondary to the companies’ annual bottom lines and by far the majority comes from the on board revenue (specialty dining, casino (Biggest source by far), alcohol & soft drink sales, Internet and sat cell access (a rapidly growing source of revenue), shore side tours, Laundry services, on board shops run by the line as well as the income from the numerous franchises paying significant fees to be on board(specialty shops, spa, some dining etc))- please have a look at a few P&L accounts just buy one share each from CCL and RCL and you will get the accounts sent to you and all will become abundantly clear and get the book I mentioned it will at least give you some real facts on the cruise industry.

 

All I have seen to date from you is truly misinformed claptrap.